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12 years ago
@GMD: I always considered ATF to mean the dancer that you see everytime you visit that club. Or you would make special plans to see before any other girl when you're in town.
Perhaps on face value that convo didn't elicit any kind of dismissal. It was more like the thing that pushed her over the edge in my mind. I left out some stuff about the way the BF has been treating her (stuff on motorhead's list).
Basically I know too much about her situation, and it's a distraction, sexually. lol Maybe if I just mind my business, I would be happier. ;^)
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12 years ago
One more comment on Stripped BFs. My Detroit ATF has a boyfriend that has at least 7 of motorhead's criteria for sure. Before our ITC she told me that she got evicted from her apartment the week before, and that she was SO GLAD to see me (I am generous to repeat girls).
I ask her, "so are you still with your BF of 2 years?"
Her, "Yes."
Me, "Not that I'm trying to get into your life, but do you still love him?"
Her, "Yes."
Me, "So does he have a job?"
Her, "He got fired from Target a couple of months ago."
Me, "So what do you guys do when you're not at work?"
Her, "I mostly Facebook and text while I watch him play video games and smoke weed at his friends house."
(she must be smoking too, as she put on at least 15 lbs in the last 3 months)
Me, "So are you moving back in with your parents?"
Her, "Yes. It sucks."
Me, "Him, too?"
Her, "No, they hate him. He sleeps in his car."
OMFG! That exchange in itself bumped her off as an ATF.
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12 years ago
I think the tone of the comments are basically saying, "you're not a BF or a Fuck buddy if you pay."
Thanks for the feedback guys. I didn't really think I was stripper boyfriend material. And I only barely qualify for one of motörhead's criteria. lol (not those videos games, but games for sure sometimes) I can't be this stripper's BF because we don't live together, I have a full time job, and we don't coordinate schedules for date night.
I would say I'm a "preferred client", aka "favorite trick". Yes, I do pay for sex with her; I'm not in denial about it. Sure, I would love to get sex from her for free, but I actually prefer our relationship to involve money; it's much easier to see the boundaries. She can never say I gave her mixed messages if she always takes my donation off the table before we leave.
Some of the things that made me question my status:
- She blows off work to rendezvous with me
- Either she has no other clients, or I always get preferential treatment
- She always wears what I like, even though it's been over a year since my last request
- I've never been stood up by her
Recently she started going back to school for her Masters (she showed me her class schedule), and made a few references to moving on from the club scene. I think it's time for some distance from her. Lest I get a friend that owns a tattoo parlor, and I smoke more weed than the entire Jamaican track team. ;^)
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12 years ago
If you're in Columbus, you will have lots of choices for AC action. Unfortunately the state requires pasties, and Columbus is a patrolled regularly which means enforcement is almost overbearing. You can forget getting extras unless you have a really good relationship with the dancer AND the bouncer.
Having said that, if you expectations are for what a strip club is designed for: drinking, looking at hot chicks, getting friction burns and blue balls, then here are some nice clubs for you to visit (in order of quantity of quality):
Kahoots
Columbus Gold
Club X (formerly Xcalibur club)
Sirens
Colmbus Gold and Sirens are the easiest to find. Pretty much all club have $35 VIP dances with occasional $25 specials and 2-for-1 dances. Hit me up win a PM if you want any more details.
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12 years ago
If you're in a computer industry, it's pretty reasonable to go for multi-day training a couple times a year. I often have to fly somewhere for training, despite living in a white collar town full of computer professionals.
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12 years ago
Don't wear white to a strip club. Seriously. There is almost no way to get makeup out without washing. If you did wear white, you can use a cap full of bleach in the washer. You also can use Shout and other stain removers. Check for issues with colors in cotton fabric. Of you don't have either, hydrogen peroxide will help of the stains are not ground in deeply. Oxyclean is basically peroxide.
Whatever you do, DO NOT DRY YOUR CLOTHES IN A DRYER until you can confirm the stain is out. The dry will lock in the stain forever.
Strippers who wear glitter should be flogged.
You can wear White after labor day, as that is an outdated rule.
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12 years ago
I only go after 7's and 8's. They know they're not 10s so you don't get the attitude problems. Usually you can get more effort from them. The only "dead lay" I every had was from a 9.5 at Penthouse Club. I wondered if she was numb below, because she didn't moan or even respond to thrusts. If I didn't turn her over for K9, I probably would have gone soft.
I don't think she ever climbed a pole. I should have known about the lame extras because she just walked around on stage and took tips. No enthusiasm or grace.
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12 years ago
No smoking in BTs. The girls do go out back to some sort of patio, but nothing happens inside.
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12 years ago
Post a link to the review, I'll check it out. If it's positive, and you're in driving range, I'll help you with a few bills.
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12 years ago
The going street rate for blowjobs is $20. That is from a professional (looks vary widely) that basically sucks dick almost all day, everyday. While an extras-friendly stripclub dancer should be of higher quality than a $20 street walker, I would expect $50 to get you a decent BJ. Having had my share of them, I can assure you that even at $100, the quality varies widely.
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12 years ago
I'm a serious late commer...
Angelique at H8S last Summer!
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12 years ago
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motorheadFat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life
Hmmm.....if she did extras and took her teeth out.... It is pretty dark at Bogart's....nahhh I wouldn't.
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12 years ago
I prefer BBBJ, but sometimes a cover is required. If the girl is talented, it can still feel good. I always request a BBBJ, all 4 positions covered, then a BBBJCIM. Some girls won't catch the CIM uncovered, so I just have to go with the flow. lol
Heck, I've had plenty of bad BBBJs, so it's really hit or miss. In the girl's defense, she might have given an amazing BJ to her regular FB or BF. Familiarity is a big deal when it comes to oral sex.
What did surprise me was how badly she wanted to get you OTC.
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12 years ago
I usually club solo, but it's interesting to meet other mongers. To put a face to te screen name. Plus we can compare techniques, or recommend dancers. It's not like I'm trying to sit in on someone else's lap dance. And clubbing with TUSCL friends is way different than bringing a regular friend.
Last time I checked, two guys wasn't a group. I would think any dancers hating on a group would be talking about 4+ guys. The dancer loses her advantage in that situation. Since I hate approaching single women within a big group, I can understand the mindset. I have no issues approaching a single lady on a group of three or less.
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12 years ago
@samsung1: Thanks for the coupon, I'll print it out at the hotel!
@Alucard: Thanks for the good wishes. PM me if you have anything hit tips. ;^)
@VinceMichaels: I will be at BTs from 5p-7p for sure (have two ATFs). Depending on whether I get any takeout will determine the time of the next few stops. If I only dine in, I'll hit Silver Cricket about 8pm.
I've been wanting to check out Silver Cricket, Hustler Club, Flight Club and The Coliseum. Silver Cricket and Flight club are close to BTs, so I'll definitely hit at least one of them. I'm on the fence about Hustler because the reviews haven't been as good in 2012 as 2011.
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12 years ago
People talk up penthouse a lot, and for some good reasons. But found it difficult to get satisfaction, despite greasing the bouncers, and having a good seat. I also found the pricing to be a challenge, and I'm no cheapskate. I visited on a Thursday night, and they only had 2-3 9+ dancers. The rest were 7s and 8s, which is of similar quality to some other clubs (you mentioned BTs).
Good luck and write an update soon.
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12 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
I have been asked this very question before starting, but I always bring protection if extras are available. Which isn't to say I can't catch something from BBBJ, but so far so good.
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12 years ago
Here, here. The above offenses are committed by amateurs. The true pros wouldn't waste their time doing that stuff.
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12 years ago
I'm going to assume this is a serious request, and I will repeat some of the above advice.
Depends on your budget and intended duration. Let's say you have $100, and you need to be in the club for less than two hours. Like mentioned above, avoid as many taxes as possible:
- Don't get valet
- Use a coupon for free admission, or go before the cover charge starts
- Sit at the stage, aka Sniffer's Row, to avoid table and booth charges
Buy the minimum number of drinks
- nurse a beer
- get a strong drink you hate that you have to sip
- drink before you come
Only dance during uptime, or not at all
- only get one 2-for-1 specials in the cheapest area
- take advantage of the dollar dance, if available
- Go in a big group to insulate yourself from dance requests.
- Only tip 1-2 dollars at the stage.
The strip club is like a casino, you can spend less, but it's designed for you to spend more. A few years ago my budget was only $100. I would get one drink and tip the waitress/bartender. Depending on the special this would be $5 or $10. I would get $30 in singles and then sit at the stage. 3 minute songs get you roughly 20 songs in an hour, but usually less. I would tip every dancer once per song, with usually 1-2 dancers per stage.
That would take $30-$40 of my budget. If there were girls I wanted a private dance, I would try to get them on a 2-for-$30/$40 depending on the night or club. If the dancer deserved a tip I would give her $10 more. There are/were no bouncer taxes in my city.
Using this model I would spend $70-$90 for an hour's worth of entertainment. It may seem like I was a cheapo, but I spent more money on the girls than half the guys there. And I didn't feel bad because it is a no xxxtras town, and everyone who spent time on me got paid.
The above techniques can also work during a really busy time, when the customers outnumber the dancers by a 3-1 or greater ratio. There have been many times (before I joined TUSCL) that I had that $100 to spend, but all of the girls were busy with high rollers and bachelor parties.
Good luck!
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12 years ago
Perhaps OT, but if you work in the town you're vacationing, are you really on a vacation? Last time I checked, that was called "working for a different employer." Most people would just work in the town they live, save their money (or credit), then stop working and take a vacation.
Now if you're into fast money, music, fashion, meeting new people, and on-the-job training....stripping has its advantages.
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12 years ago
I've been known to DATY after FS, but I NEVER fire in the hole uncovered. It's just my way of minimizing the chance for unwanted pregnancies. Now there has been the occasional 8+ who I would consider the risk, but I haven't actually done it.
More to the point, I tried a snowball once, and determined it wasn't for me. Therefore I would not DATY on a creampie.
To each their own
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12 years ago
A shot girl told me this one:
What's the difference between a stripper's boyfriend and Aspirin?
Aspirin works!
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12 years ago
Did you hear the one about the mad stripper?
This one guy kept throwing monopoly money at her. She asked him why he was throwing fake money at her.
He replied, "Because you keep putting fake tits in my face!"
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12 years ago
Thanks for the feedback, guys!
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12 years ago
I love what VM had to say above. If you are a newbie, they will smell it on you. Be sure that you are paying for the complete "dance." Not dance prices per song and then xxxtras on top.
I always say that "I want to have fun." and they will say either "how much fun" or "what kind of fun." I reply with, "I want everything, full service." If they agree that they will do that, then I get specific like you mentiones in the discussion start.
Sometimes price comes up before specifics. Either way, most start out offering $200, some say $300. Whatever they open with, I counter wIth half, like ALP above. Sometimes they agree, other times they offer a higher number.
It has been stated above that you should never pay up front. I have paid up front before, but it was in this context:
She:$200
Me:$100
She:"That's a little low."
Me:"How about I give you $100 up front, and if I really enjoy myself, I'll give you $150."
This has always worked, and I've never been disappointed or ripped off. This satisfies some requirements in their minds, as they see it as getting a tip if they make you happy. But YMMV!
Good luck!