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8 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
Random, are you referring to the "Wall Street boys" who have paid her millions for "speeches" and donated literally over a billion dollars to Hillary's campaigns? You really expect her to "prevent" her biggest financial supporters from doing anything?
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8 years ago
Good read, BUT (everybody's got one) the writer has a very limited view of the industry (San Fer Valley in the Socialist Republic of Californication) and a bias as a Hispanic in that area where illegals and indigents are clearly the low end of everything. The facts do support that dancers are generally treated as contractors and often charged for everything they do (pay for their own drinks, locker fees, shift fees, "mandatory" tip outs, late fees, fees for days off, etc.). Yet most clubs charge relatively small fees, and either charge only a nominal per dance fee for VIP (usually $5) or no fee from the dancer at all. The writer's experience (as he tells it) probably represents the worst case for strip clubs.
Elsewhere in the country, I have heard managers refer to their job as trying to heard naked drunk cats. I know many strippers are good at making very bad life choices, yet they are (mostly) adults capable of making their own decisions. Some are brilliant women who choose erotic dancing for their own INTENTIONAL reasons. Most dancers have issues with drugs or boyfriends that make stripping and cash payouts necessary. Whatever the reasons for their choices, most strippers do know the rules of the club, and the fees, before they start working there. I do not envy SC managers, but neither do I pity the "sad plight" of the dancers.
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8 years ago
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shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
The only problem with a TUSCL top 10 list is that every PL here has different priorities. Papi would not rate any club in the top 100 unless the club had plenty of round bottom black chicks roaming the floor. Clubber might not even rate a club without petite Asians. A few of our number will de-rate clubs that let "6s" dance, and there are even people here who are not interested in BBBJs.
Then we must consider our elder statesman, Shadowcat. The premire PL of our group would rate Follies, ATL (day shift only) in seven of the top ten (ranked by weekday). He has the qualifications, and experience, to do so - and based on HIS scoring criteria his ranking would be right.
I wouldn't consider a club for the top 10 unless it has a dance area with some reasonable of privacy, the dance prices are reasonable (or negotiable), there is at least a reasonable opportunity for extras from 7 to 10 rated dancers, and I can reasonable expect to be there at least a few times.
Perhaps a set of top 10s, geared to region, glitz, extras, prices or whatever.
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8 years ago
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shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
IF, and a big "IF" at that, IF you are looking for glitz, tux wearing bouncers, glam-no touch dancers and are willing to pay big bucks to say you went to a strip club, that list is appropriate and reasonablly accurate.
Definately not my list.
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8 years ago
Honey, don't you read the headlines? Or even the disclaimer at the bottom of the page? There are no extras in strip clubs. What we talk about here is just fantasy, all our stories are works of fiction..
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8 years ago
Around 2008, I visited a couple of "on island" Montreal Clubs that were still charging $5 a dance (topless only) and three more that had just raised their prices to $10 (at the time the US dollar and the Canadian dollar were about par). In every case on-island, the dancer offered no more than a little stick shifting, no extras (though OTC was avail).
The off-island clubs were a very different story. Dance prices were usually quoted based on the extra services you wanted, BJ, FS, or combo.
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8 years ago
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impalaThe People's Republic of Pennsylvania
In 1974, only two or three years after my first club visit, I was actually fondled (kinda') by a dancer in a Memphis club - meaning that she got within a foot or so of my chair and rubbed her hands in my hair while dancing at my table. If that don't count, then the time stamp moves up about twenty years to somewhere around 1994 and an Indiana club (near Chicago) where I got a blow job to completion from a financially strapped young woman who needed to pay her rent (or buy pot, or something really important to her at the time).
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8 years ago
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san_jose_guymoney was invented for handing to women, but buying dances is a chump's game
I remember reading somewhere that some wise inventor was developing a latex spray to replace rubbers for porn shoots. Supposedly, the latex, when sprayed on an erect penis, is not visible on camera and affords the same protection as a condom. After use, it can be pealed off like latex body paint.
If the spray on condom is a real thing, porn will just adapt and keep going. The only peoblem I see is the break needed to peal off the latex spray before a cum shot.
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8 years ago
More idiocy from do-gooder, meddlesome middle aged chubby women, who believe sex is an evil invented by the devil and anyone who has sex is either a sinner or a victim.
The facts simply do not support any of the assumptions behind this bill. First, sex trafficking exists, but the numbers are a tiny percentage (like 1% or less) of what this woman's backers claim. And second, there is NO evidence in this country that rape, sex slavery or criminal sex trafficking is connected to strip clubs.
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8 years ago
Jester, you exactly on point with both issues. Just because a cop perceives, in a state of panic, a threat to his or her life, does NOT mean that threat existed. Instead of a "racist" issue, that poor decision making can usually be explained by either poor hiring/selection or poor training. A police department that hires someone easily rattled can expect that officer to make bad choices under stress. And a police department that does not drill process, procedure and awareness as a regular part of continuous training (even for "veterans") will eventually get an officer who panics when something happens and he has no plan. A panicked person with a gun (whether cop or terrorist or someone else) is a tragedy about to happen.
And the idea that (as chessmaster suggests) a public entity would conspire to cover up the criminal act of someone who violated that entity's rules is simply tin-foil-hat crazy. It is simply unrealistic to the point of absurdity. A city, town or village has nothing to gain by "covering up" inappropriate acts and everything to lose when the cover up is revealed. And recent history proves that nothing can stay "secret" in this cell phone video, cameras on every corner, era.
The media is as much at fault for the current epidemic of stupid overreaction and idiot conspiracy theory as the federal administration. The press takes individual events and blows them up as if it were common practice everywhere. The fact is, many of the recent police involved shootings have been situations where BLACK officers pulled the trigger, or the police departments are headed by Black chiefs, or the entire incident is clearly justified on tape, or the injured "victim" is non-black - but the media cannot sensationalize those points so we don't get all the facts, and we certainly do not get facts in context. The "demonstrations," riots, and looting fests are usually more media events organized by professional racists, that actual reflections of the community opinions.
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8 years ago
The original concept of our republic was a nation of individually empowered citizens in control of a limited (constitutionally constrained) government. The people who started all of this expected (or perhaps, "hoped" would be a better word) that the states and local governments would likewise form limited local governments.
According to the original concept EACH of us holds authority EQUALLY. The surrender of any of that authority to paid enforcers (police) is in direct conflict with the founding concepts of this nation - Except where those enforcers (police) are hired by local or state governments acting under the authority granted by a majority of it's citizens. So, within reasonable limits, giving authority (within statutory limits) to local police to detain, or temporarily constrain the rights of, citizens is allowable.
That police "power" cannot constitutionally apply to the federal government. Allowing the federal government to employ armed enforcers with authority over citizens is a significant breach of the constitutional limits on the reach of federal government. The federal government clearly understood that, up until J Edgar Hoover sought and received authority to arm the FBI to combat illegal liquor sales during Prohibition. To this day, the federal government has unconstitutionally armed several mercenary forces to enforce the will of the government upon citizens (FBI, DEA, SS - secret service, ATF, and more). That ain't right! And on that point, I completely agree with you.
Allowing (very limited) police powers to professional enforcers hired by local governments as a means to promote the general welfare and safety, is both legal and reasonable. Police hired by a town to maintain the peace, defend citizens from illegal acts, and investigate crimes is both reasonable and necessary for the common good.
Your complaint (above) is really about where to restrict the power and authority of these paid enforcers, not in actually whether they should exist. And that question has been asked ever since the first town marshal was hired, and is absolutely still relevant today. Local (and state) governments continue to walk a very confusing and tortured path between citizen's rights and necessary powers that allow their enforcers to do the job they are paid to do.
It doesn't help that police are very human. Some will lie, others will exceed their authority. Some paid enforcers are bullies and others "get off" on ordering people around. The extreme majority of police officers are really good people who do a very difficult job because they believe in the mission and they honestly want to help. I believe that majority (recognized as the, "good guys" by most of us) is the reason people tend to believe the police first.
Honestly, no one has come up with a "solution" to the tightrope of police powers. I doubt anyone will. I am opposed to the excess authority society has granted to police over the past 85 years, but I know I cannot individually oppose that authority on the street and remain alive. OTOH, I do not believe there are very many instances of "racist" police shootings. Racist cops will harass certain drivers, ticket one race more than others, or bother young adults of a certain race while walking down the street. A "racist" cop, will not subject himself (or herself) to criminal prosecution just for the "satisfaction" of killing a stranger who happens to be a different race.
No sane police officer is going to draw his (or her) weapon and fire - unless they sincerely believe their life (or another person's life) is in imminent danger. The officer's perceptions during high stress confrontations can be very wrong, but even under stress, the officer knows that pulling the trigger can be a career killer and may become a criminal charge against them. There is just no room in that crowded, high stress, decision tree for "racist" decisions.
The decision on where to constrain the authority we citizens have given to paid enforcers still remains with us a citizens. (EXCEPT for the federal enforcers who are completely unconstitutional, yet continue to exist.)
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8 years ago
Larryfisherman, clearly you have never been on either side of a firearm in a potentially life threatening situation! The statement, "if I'm the cop, I'm gonna shoot at this legs if he's charging towards me to get him down." proves you have no concept of what happens in those few crisis filled seconds.
How can an officer (or armed citizen) know that the attacker "charging towards" him is unarmed? If the attacker is on PCP and has a knife, pipe or gun, the attacker will just get pissed off should the shots at his legs actually hit him (very unlikely). There is never time for a second aim point. Fear is a powerful motivator, but it distorts perceptions, and the officer WILL be afraid.. The person being attacked has only an instant to determine the threat and respond.
And the, "shoot at his legs" idea ignores reality -completely. A police office who discharges his firearm MISSES over 80% of the time even though all police are trained to shoot center mass (mid chest). Most police involved shootings happen at a distance of less than 10 feet. Most of the time - an officer shooting straight at a supposed assailant, attempting to hit the center of the body - completely misses at less than 10 feet!
It is not that police are "bad shots," it is again the result of fear, excitement (not in a good way), dynamic movement by both suspect and shooter, lighting, distractions, and uncertainty. No sane person wants to shoot someone - but also no sane person wants to die. When a firearm comes out of an officers holster, that officer's heart rate will go thru the roof. His mind is outracing his heart. Vision begins to tunnel, and other physiological changes, all very much like shock, occur within a second. There is no way any individual could possibly intentionally hit someone moving towards them in the leg.
Try it for yourself. Get a BB pistol and put the barrel in your belt on your right hip. Run for about three miles to get your heart rate up close to that of an officer in a life or death situation Quickly draw a four inch wide by ten inch high target on a piece of paper and tape the top to a swing seat - hurry. Yell for a full minute while jumping up and down as fast as you can.. Push the swing as hard as you can, step backwards three steps, spin around rapidly three times, then draw the BB gun, aim and fire in less than 2 seconds. You will be much calmer and steadier than an officer in fear of his life, but you will not hit that target.
An officer practices once or twice a year to qualify to use his (or her) weapon, but otherwise that weapon only comes out of the holster for an occasional cleaning. Most police will serve an entire twenty to forty year career without ever drawing their weapon on duty. And 99.999% of the time, if an officer draws and fires their weapon they truly believe their life is at risk. If they are wrong - they lose their job and may go to jail - and they know that.
Yes, sometimes the officer IS wrong. Yes, sometimes a cop overreacts. Yes, sometimes an officer sees a weapon, when there isn't one. But about 99.99% of the time that officer correctly does his job, clocks out, and goes home to play with his kids.
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8 years ago
A few years ago I was in a Houston club late afternoon an hour before shift change, and the main room had a dozen dancers, a bartender, two bouncers, a DJ and me. i has had several dances (and a g-g-great BJ) and was just talking with one of the strippers when another stripper came over and started talking about a certain night shift stripper who had just gone in the dressing room. Another stripper joined in the catty talk, then another, and in just a few minutes I was trapped in a nest of underdressed, big titted vipers with their fangs out.
Before I escaped I noted two things. First, these women were almost as mean talking about other women as they were about the men who visited the club or even their baby daddies. While the most demeaning talk was certainly about lowlife guys who are, "fat," "retarded," "can't get a date," "stink", have "tiny dicks" and "can't keep it up," they also chose to attack the looks and morals of other dancers. Interestingly, the dancer who had just given me a great blow job complained about another dancer who was just a, "whore" and would, "blow anyone."
The second thing I noticed, was that these women seemed to enjoy their bitching and relished the opportunity to put down others. I'm not judging, but these strippers were almost as bad as I imagine a church women's group would be!
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8 years ago
The story is big news over the past 24 hours. But no one seems to catch the "little" detail that the hack happened in 2014.
Folks, if you use yahoo "they" have had your info for two years!
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8 years ago
^^^ "reasonably"
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8 years ago
Open carry does NOT mean "in hand, ready to shoot." A rifle carried on a shoulder strap, or even at port arms, is open carry. A rifle pointed at someone with the holder's finger on the trigger guard (or worse, trigger) is an overt threat, and can reasonable be understood to be the criminal act of assault. Likewise a handgun in plain sight, carried in a holster is "open carry." A handgun, carried in a person's hand is an overt threat.
The newspaper article offers some very twisted logic to avoid the obvious fact that the individual the police confronted and shot supposedly had the weapon in his hand. I do not know what really happened, and I do have an opinion on whether the cops acted appropriately or committed murder, but that newspaper story is WAY off base.
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8 years ago
I don't fuck runway models (not that I will ever have the opportunity) I have never considered them "10" material. The mostly homosexual men who make and sell women's clothes want models who are nothing more than moving manniquins to showcase their designs. Turns out the best shape - FOR THE SELLERS - is tall, thin and leggy. That may sell women's clothes to the wholesale buyers and make for drooling viewers in front of tvs, but it is not what I rate highly. Note that the models who start in the "model" business and achieve success beyond runways, are also women who after years of success as emaciated stick figures in weird clothes, grow (or implant) notable breasts and start showing actual ass cheeks at the top of more shapely legs.
I want a lean - SHAPELY - woman, with a face that doesn't look like it cam from a plastic surgeon, natural breasts that actually move, a trim waist, hips that look like a woman (not a boy), and an actual ass on top of normal womanly legs (not long sticks). The Kenbdall Jenner girl pictured looks emaciated and overly painted - no my style, not at all.
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8 years ago
Some people has suggested that the long time NOLA practices of rampant graft, over the top promises with near zero delivery, crooked cops, more crooked politicians, Gambino style business licensing and a rainbow of criminal groups controlling government, tourism, hotels, bars, booze, deliveries and even roadwork are history - but that is still how NOLA operates. Obviously, the named clubs failed to pay their "insurance" bill on time and the seven unnamed clubs are now warned about the consequences.
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8 years ago
My grandma was an absolute terror on misbehaving kids. She could transition from slipper strikes on the butt, to flexible small limbs from a nearby tree in an instant. She even spanked my friends if she deemed their behavior inappropriate. By the time I turned eight, I was taller than my 4'5" 85 pound grandmother, but she still was free with the behavior modification slippers and switches until she died when I was in high school.
My mother-in-law, was quite different. She was a functioning paranoid-schizophrenic (well, some of the time she was functioning), she long believed "they" were out to get her and hid money, personal items - even her underwear - to keep them from stealing her stuff. In her 80's she was diagnosed with dementia/ alzheimers, but I couldn't tell the difference. When we put her in a dementia care facility we searched her small condo and found over $100,000 hidden in weird places (like $15,100 in $100.00 bills wrapped in plastic and buried under a dead plant in a planter in her kitchen window), plus other really strange things (like an unopened package of panties taped to the back of a drawer in a living room side table).
I tried to avoid being around her, but in her later years regular visits became unavoidable. Her stories were extreme. One morning (when she was in the lock-down unit of the dementia care facility) she told me she had been raped the previous night by secret service agents while LBJ watched (this was when Bush43 was POTUS). Then she quietly volunteered that she enjoyed it, but don't tell her mom (who died in 1948). She was still hiding things in the facility, but her dementia was so bad, she couldn't remember that she hid something, let alone where she hid it. Staff claimed they actually enjoyed the "treasure" hunts for her glasses, clothes, even dentures - but finding week old opened cups of pudding was not as fun. When she died everyone breathed a sigh of relief! Some day a future staffer will finally find her lower dentures.
Crazy old timers can be entertaining.
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8 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
Strippers, live band, Mexican theme - - - Wasn't there a movie about that?
I seem to remember Vampires too. Look out Phoenix, this will not end well.
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8 years ago
Three things work for me.
Habits - I go out often for legit reasons and almost always shower immediately after I return - the exact same routine I use when I return from a strip club - boring routine dulls the watcher.
FeBreze - that stuff kills just about any odor. I carry a bottle in the car and literally spray it on me, front and back, before I get back in the car. It really does kill perfume, smoke, and coochie smells.
Cheap after-shave - I always use the same drug store brand after shave before I leave the house, and keep a bottle in the car. After the Febreze has destroyed the stripper stench (and had time to dry) I reapply the after-shave lotion and ride home with the windows partly open. If there is the same "lingering" scent on me when I get home as there was when I left, I get a free pass to the bathroom for a shower.
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8 years ago
Clubber, burying friends hurts! It doesn't matter whether they get buried because they died, or you must bury the friendship because they are no longer there (moved, married, medical), it all hurts. I am sorry for your pain.
A while ago I lost in-laws (both her parents), my Mom, two friends and a dog - all in less than 9 months. It was not my best year. I didn't find anything particularly interesting, and everything I did was more difficult than before. I didn't "get over it," but over time I did get used to living with several pieces missing.
I don't have any "well intended" advise or "sure thing" answers. I will offer the probability that one day you will look around the house and think to yourself, "I need some fine Asian tits in my face and tight, shaved poon in my hand."
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8 years ago
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ItsmytimeI’ve had enough and I can’t take it any more
I have had dancers tell me they don't do extras. I have also had dancers bitch and moan about other dancers who do extras. I even had one complain about extras dancers who are not even discrete about it. She assured me she was discrete!
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8 years ago
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SubramanCar key and wallet dating your sister
If I walk into a strip club and see a sausage fest with a very few strippers wandering around, I leave. It is not that I doubt my chances - as an older guy who shows up in "nice" clothes and looks like I might have money, the strippers will eventually find me. I leave because the few strippers there are usually over stressed by crowds of guys groping, grabbing and pawing, and are less likely to be fresh and upbeat when they get to me.
Like others who have posted, I prefer day shift in a club with a discrete VIP, where the club is less than half full and dancers outnumber the customers.
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8 years ago
As a kid I ushered Cowboy games at the Cotton Bowl. I was still a fan when they moved to Irving, TX even though I had to actually buy tickets at almost $10 a seat!. (Irving stadium had a big opening in the roof so Tom Landry could still wear his hat with his dress suit during games, not so Coach Landry could talk to God - God could get by without Coach Landry's advice on 14 Sunday afternoon's a year) I quit paying attention to NFL football for a few years when the ASS from Arkansas bought the Cowboys and rudely, crudely, with no class at all, fired the Coach. I don't often watch the Cowboys even now, but until recently, I watched one or two games a week. That's changing.
The 60s and 70s pro football leagues were composed of players who loved the game and coaches who were veterans of football, back when a player had to get a job to support himself so he could afford to play "professional" football. When that changed, later in the 70s, football became more violent and new players showed up on the fields with high priced attorneys, agents, managers and big salaries. The game became a mercenary gladiatorial contest - including the "kill shots" intending to permanently injure key opposing players.
Then - recently - the far left "progressives" began getting their say (a valid response to the intentional violence and ugly hits) and even "Pop Warner" football is "too" violent for left leaning mommies. Now the NFL is run from a corporate boardroom, on field actions are tested in polls, and test audience surveys, new rules attempt to make the game "less violent" and more "family friendly". Pro football is a high stakes big business where the games in the back room are more important than those on the field, and the games on the field are more like golf every year.
I am not yet ready to completely ignore NFL games, but I am close to being able to sit in a strip club with my back to the game on TV and not be at all curious about the score!