How long after you started clubbing did it take till you got your first real extra (bj or fuck)? Has to be on site, not OTC. For me first time I went I got a BJ (and that was in the parking lot, not actually inside) but wasn't till a almost a decade later before I actually fucked in the club.
well, it didn't happen until last year, but that's mainly because extras in my area are rare or non existent. And I don't travel regularly....so I only get to other clubs from time to time
Extras are rare near me and I don't travel for personal or business. Also I'm not inclined to pay extra for "extras" as that would eat up my budget too quickly. I also don't care to cheat on my wife "right now."
I strip clubbed for years before I got my first extra -- handjob. That exact moment marked my transition from casual SCer to PL. It was quite a while before I got what you describe as a "real" extra, because I didn't do BBBJ (and still don't, with rare exception) and CBJ is pretty much useless, I'll take a HJ over CBJ every time, especially given the $100 difference in price.
It took almost 20 years from the beginning of my regular strip clubbing (in 1994) until my first extra (BBBJCIM in 2013). For most of that time, I was only dimly aware that extras were even an option, let alone OTC play. After all, Chris Rock taught me back in the late 90s that ""no matter what a stripper tells you/There's no sex in the Champagne Room."
A lot of clubs over the years, I can't say specifically what year, but it was in the early 90's at Players. It was a brand new club, after they tore down a long time club, which I had visited before Players was built. Damn, Detroit clubs were fine in the 90's, the dancers wore formal wear at first when they had roll call on the stage to start the night shift. They built a VIP area, and one night I got a BJ from this stone fox Filipina. Later, they made the VIP more private with booths, and I started having FS with various dancers. Then one of our periodic crackdowns happened (new ordnances) The clubs in Detroit almost died. So I went out to The Flight Club. Bogarts, and Henry VIII South. Anything and everything was available. Henry VIII was really a dump, before they fixed it up, but the sex in VIP was readily available.
In 1974, only two or three years after my first club visit, I was actually fondled (kinda') by a dancer in a Memphis club - meaning that she got within a foot or so of my chair and rubbed her hands in my hair while dancing at my table. If that don't count, then the time stamp moves up about twenty years to somewhere around 1994 and an Indiana club (near Chicago) where I got a blow job to completion from a financially strapped young woman who needed to pay her rent (or buy pot, or something really important to her at the time).
After I started clubbing regularly about 10 years ago, it took 6 or 8 months before I got a blow job. I attribute the long time frame to my respect for dancers and my naïveté.
Only a few visits before I had my first BJ from a dancer. Some guys I knew had told me what to expect and gave me pointers. If I wasn't such a chickenshit, it would have happened on my first visit. Thankfully, a dancer more than twice my age took pity on me and made sure it happened.
So, AMPs. First HJ offered by a young Viet hottie, not even asking for extra money. But then soon I learned just to make FS happen. BJ, not so much in most AMPs.
In underground circuit, still not really on site BJ or FS, but in van girls bring to parking lot. That whole set up did change my understanding of strip clubs and women.
In San Francisco, there have been up and down times. But not really comfortable with big money or tight time limits. More fun to DATY girls. That does soften them up very well.
In future travels, will always try for front room makeout, back room FS, then take her out to eat, and continue with her until morning, and then keep seeing her.
Maybe 6 months. An expensive 6 months. My first extras experience pretty much coincided with my discovering this forum. Everything got significantly better (i.e. extras) and significantly cheaper (i.e. knowing how to negotiate) after that point.
Like MrDeuce I was naively unaware of extras. My first club visit was in 1995 and was always hands off in Phoenix. Of course I always fantasized of getting my hands and more on those tits in my face or grabbing that pussy like I was The Donald. Then about a year or two later I discovered our local lingerie "modeling", 1 on 1 establishments. Granted it was pricey back then at around $300 per visit for an hour long hand job session. But the girls were model quality without a doubt. And we're both naked and I got to suck titties, finger all I want, tittie fuck and get relieved by their hand or tits. I also frequented the massage places. Finally until 2012 upon joining tuscl and reading reviews did I realize extras were seemingly readily available. About a month after Desert scrub took me under his wing I got my first bbbj in a SC from a gorgeous young thing then about once per week from her afterwards. My first in club CFS was just a couple months ago with my current fave. Thanks tuscl!
Became a regular SCer in 2000, did not have first extras till early 2012 shortly after joining TUSCL (FS in a black dive) - in the 2000s I SCed in Dallas which is low-extras for the most-part and don't recall being propositioneed outright except a couple of fimes where a dancer would ask about doing the Champagne Room but I had it in mind it was just a ripoff and no sex (which I think was actually the case in many of the Dallas clubs) - it took TUSCL and fhe discussion board to convince me extras could really be had in SCs and that there were girls who would follow thru
Wow it seems like it was yesterday. My first SC was after a night of drinking with my boss when I was an intern back in 1999 in El Paso, TX. Did not get any extras until maybe a year later at the famous (or infamous) Cab. BBBJ for like 20 buck not kidding. Not the best looking woman but it got the job done. Later I learned how to test the waters without asking outright (big no no in my book). I don't do that anymore because I just got bored with it and it seems the quality of the girls in general has gone down the toilet and if you do find a decent one she wants a shit load of money on top of the private room or VIP cost which have also gone up. The cost benefit is just not there anymore ( at lead in the US, but that's another story )
MrDeuce, Henry VIII will never be upscale, but that's OK. It was really the pits when I first went there. The spruce up was a much better looking place.
Took me years to get an "extra" after mostly clubbing in Southern California and SFO in the 90s, plus the occasional Florida trip. I would get phone numbers and OTC offers from the more MILF-like dancers whenever I went to certain divey clubs in the Ft Lauderdale area, but never took the gals up on those. But by 2001, I was spending much of my time in Dubai and for less than the price of a 30 min VIP room dance today (sometimes way less), you could go to a hotel bar or a club like Cyclone and take home a lovely Russian gal for the evening provided you were staying in a girl-friendly hotel or apartment building. I probably had at least 40-45 encounters over a 5 year period (being in Dubai about 35 times, a week each on average, during that period). Pretty much anything goes. Now it's more expensive, there are fewer P4P-friendly bars to find the girls, and the Russian gals are now supplanted by gals from Africa, China, perhaps someplace like Kyrgyztan, and the Philippines. So settling for strip clubs after many years of traveling to the Vegas of the Muslim world required a bit of adjustment. Eventually I got a BBBJ at an invitation-only club in NY (very expensive gals) and similar, more relaxed, and more fun stimulation for my little friend on a sofa "at the top of the spiral stairs" in an otherwise "meh" club in Houston. Which explained the Kleenex boxes on every table in that desolate area of the club. ;) For now OTC with my favorite stripper is about the best way to have a more Dubai-like experience, but it's something I didn't do until this summer for the first time.
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Went back a few weeks later when we both were sober and it was a totally different dancer. Needless to say I never revisited after that.
1978, my 17th birthday. Ft. Erie, Canada. A couple hours of various sex acts in the back.
So, AMPs. First HJ offered by a young Viet hottie, not even asking for extra money. But then soon I learned just to make FS happen. BJ, not so much in most AMPs.
In underground circuit, still not really on site BJ or FS, but in van girls bring to parking lot. That whole set up did change my understanding of strip clubs and women.
In San Francisco, there have been up and down times. But not really comfortable with big money or tight time limits. More fun to DATY girls. That does soften them up very well.
In future travels, will always try for front room makeout, back room FS, then take her out to eat, and continue with her until morning, and then keep seeing her.
SJG