Comments by Harderlap (page 9)

Do you tip the dancers on stage? Do you make eye contact with the ones you want dances from? Do you tip the waitresses? I think all of those things are important as being recognized as someone who has money, is willing to spend it, and is interested in the dancer. Also, just asking works, someitmes dancers figure you aren't interested in dances. Not sure how they come to that conclusion, but I have had several tell me when I asked them for a dance that they didn't think I was interested in dances. Not sure why I gave that impression, but they got it. So, if you are feeling ignored, go ahead and ask for a dance. That usually works and shows other dancers that you are interested in dances and gets the ball rolling so to speak.

If you want to do something different in a strip club for a change, order a beer, sit back and watch one of the better dancers. Keep track of the number of dances she does and how much she is making on each. Estimate the club's share and what she tips out. One of my favorites usually does 6 or 8 VIP dances in an hour and maybe another 6-8 floor dances. The songs are usually cut short at this club. At the going rates this is probably $150 - 200$/hr after tip out and the club's take. Granted not every hour is like that, but I would suspect that is not too far from the norm for her. She works 5 or 6 hours a day, 5 or 6 days a week so do the math. Maybe $100k-$150k a year? She is pretty reliable and usually there, never wasted, so I suspect that she is banking most of the money. But you can collect your own data, if you are not too distracted. As this is a cash business, and many dancers are a bit flighty, I suspect that most dancers don't have much idea of how much they spend and hence how much idea of what they earn.

El Paso.

El Paso.

Thanks Papi Chulo, Chukko and samsung1, that information was just what I was looking for.

My experience is from a month to 6 weeks to never. Not sure why the last one I sent in wasn't published, it was a revision of an earlier one I wrote, so maybe the founder thought it was too similar.

If you had bought Kraft, you would have done a lot better. Or Heinz.

Vienna

When I signed up, Hardlap was taken, so the chose a harder one.

I would say that both of the posts are from a shill and that rather than make up new propaganda they just cut and pasted from the last shill they made. Still a perfectly good waste of bits and bytes.

There are a lot of variables that go into the quality of a visit to a club. The biggest variable is the dancer, so if you can find a dancer that gives a good experience, stick with her. She can also tell you why things are different if they are different. Things like changes in wait staff, the dancer next to you, the floor managers, the bouncers, and even the time of day all influence the quality of a visit. In my experience there is always some variability in the quality of the dances and dancers. If it is bad and stays bad for more than 6 months or so, I frequent other places and monitor the reviews here to see if things change. Post your experiences good and bad so that others can learn.

El Paso is good. Extras are common at the Red Parrot, Foxy, and Cabaret Club. Listed in order of dancer attractiveness and inverse order of how hard it is to get extras.

Two of the local clubs do this, one other scans the magnetic stripe on the back. One purpose is that if there is trouble in the club or parking lot, they have a record who was there and can possibly identify the perpetrators from the drivers license photo. It has proved useful at least once for a local club that was publicized, in that case, a shooter in the parking lot was identified from his drivers license. I am told it is also used if there are problems with credit cards.

To keep you coming...back.

Yes.

A free dance at Christmas from one of my favorites.

The Google maps function does what I want it to do. Thanks for the tip! The only issue is as someone has pointed out, the list is somewhat out of date.

Frito Pie

See through lace bra, hose with or without garter belt, high heels without platforms, fishnets only with fine mesh, otherwise they catch buttons, gloves, bustier or corset.

Long Beach, CA used to have a lot of problems with Corona Boulevard street signs being stolen. They solved it by putting the signs up 15 feet in the air.

If TJ is great for clubbing, San Diego is the flip side of the coin. The rules are pretty strict and there isn't much that goes on in or out of clubs there beyond what is strictly legal. And even at that, the prices are high. Try Albuquerque for the Balloon Fiesta and a few good but not great clubs where more is available than one would think. There is usually an influx of out of town dancers during the Balloon Fiesta, which is both good and bad, so what goes on during Balloon Fiesta is not necessarily the best way to judge clubs. Still at TD's North you can have a good time and a great time with the right dancer and Knockouts downtown, while a couple of notches down from TD's is still good bang for the buck. Try El Paso for pretty much anything goes clubs ranging from dives to upscale. I don't know what else there is to do ther, but that really isn't the reason for your trip is it? Tucson is fun in the winter time. The club scene used to be good, but I hear it has become pretty tame since the Candy Store closed down.

Hit send too soon. Albuquerque depends very much on the dancer and how often you have been to the club. I would guess a newcomer would have a hard time finding extras in Albuquerque.

El Paso try the Cabaret, Red Parrot or Foxy. The Red Parrot is probably the best of the three for extras. Albuq

In Albuquerque, most of the clubs scan your driver's license upon entering. They can quickly check for proper drinking age this way. The NM alcohol control board is really tough on serving minors and the scan serves as a check that the bar is trying not to admit people underage. I have been told that the information is wiped each night and is not stored. I know in one case of a shooting outside of a club here, the scanned infomration was used to ID the shooter.

Bring with you only the cash you want to spend. When you run out, leave. Try to keep track of what you are spending. look at a bill before you spend it. It is all too easy to tip with a $5 instead of a one if you are not paying attention. I put tip money, usually ones in one pocket. I put dance and beer money in the other pocket, usually $20s for VIP dances and $10s for lap dances. I also try to spend so that I have the exact price of the dance available so I don't have to ask for change. Don't use a credit card in the club. It is too easy for you to overspend and also too easy to loose track of what you spent and reconcile it with tab you are presented. Also, although the charges don't usually show up on your statement as a strip club, they often show up as an odd place, often a bar or restaurant that doesn't exist, or an odd corporation like Acme Enterprises. If someone else looks at your credit card statement these can be as hard to explain as charges to a strip club. Best to leave the credit card at home or in the car. Don't use the ATM in the club. The charges range from high to exorbitant. Leave the ATM card at home or in the car. If you can get away with it, get a streamlined wallet and only take in your driver's license or other ID, and your cash. Think with your head.