Comments by enquiz2001

To answer one question - yes - we are talking about the opposite sex. I know of only one place in Jersey where a BJ can be had. I'm sure there's others. I've never experienced the Florida scene, but the girls do visit the well renowned Go-Go Rama. Now, how much of their practice comes North I'm not sure or is allowed-I should add. As for the use of Billy Joel over BJ in the title, I thought it would be a little more discreet to use that term in the subject line. Besides, it does make talking about the subject a little more interesting. I will have to go into a place one day with the Brazilian girls and ask if they sing Billy Joel (I do mean ask the question literally) just to see their reaction. It would be damn nice if our great pharmaceutical industry came up with a spray or something to use for the after shock, so to speak. I remember seeing a sex ed tape that recommended good ol' soap and water after doing the act (I don't think they mentioned oral in the tape back then), but considering that many of these STDs do take a while to become impregnated, a shower ASAP seems like a good idea. I think a little Listerine after performing orally upon a young lady wouldn't be a bad idea either. I've been in that circumstance twice in a club, or three times, as I remember, and I made sure I took a good dousing of the stuff when I got home. Is it totally effective? I don't know. But it sure as hell can't hurt. Any doctors in the house to comment??????????????

Here naive for you. I went into this bar in Canada years ago and saw all these gorgeous women hanging out. I talked to one who said she was a teacher (it's been many years so I'm not positive on that one), and she mentioned that she liked to come to this place part time. I was with a another guy and we were both Okay, that's nice. We left after our drinks. To this day I'm wondering if we were in a brothol. I remember some cops coming in, walking around, checking some back rooms and leaving. I was too naive then to realize that such a place existed in Canada. I've learned since that thinks are a little more open shall we say, than down here, or am I wrong about that????

Bones - so if she sticks your dick in her mouth how much do you give her? And on top of how much have you already paid for the dance? If I get 3 dances at $30 a piece - she gets $20 and makes $60 - and she is orally accomodating, should I spend more? Is $20 the going thank you???

It doesn't seem like anyone has a hard and fast rule on tipping. When I'm in the GGR in N.J., I don't tip. But I do repeat. And that seems to work most of the time. I realize these girls have to make their bucks, but I hate the ones that make you feel like you're an ATM machine. I guess for some other places it would be wise to have a short discussion on expectations so neither one is disappointed. And if I get one that up-sales during the dance I guess the thing for all of us to do is to walk-out so they get the message. But the other head does have a way of making that difficult sometimes, doesn't it??

Does curtains count? If you know Playhouse you know about Cheeks and their tents. Very private - at least from viewing. Noise reduction is another matter. Go-Go Rama in Old Bridge, N.J., has their "private room." They are five booths in a side room. Unfortunately, two of the five are easily viewed by patrons. However, they are putting in, or have put in (not sure if they are opened yet), two private "cubes" that are totally enclosed - doors and curtains - so no outside viewing. The "cubes" sit out in the club, but there's no viewing inside. The down side to all of this at the Go-Go Rama is that there are cameras in the "private room" booths, but I don't know if there are cameras in the "cubes." But I wouldn't be surprised if there are - they are everywhere else.

Thanks guys. I appreciate the help. All I need is the time to get to one of these places.

I'm in Jersey. I think locally there appears to be a little slowdown, but no one is going hungry.

Personally, just buy a newspaper and look in the classified. The Star Ledger has large listing under Massage. I've seen other papers that have a Professional Services section and Massage places are listed under that. Yeah, you have to make some phone calls and try them out, but you should be able to find something pretty quick. Going through the paper you can find a mix of Asian, Russian and Latin providers, but it usually takes a phone call to find out what they are offering. Anyway, that's just another idea I'm putting out there for you.

"My dances come with a money back guarantee if you're not satisfied." "You don't have to pay me; I didn't perform to your expectations." "Does my breath smell?" "Does my perfume bother you?" "Where precisely do you want me to rub?"

This is something I've been thinking about, and thanks for the posts guys. I would say from the overwhelming majority of comments that my instincts have been correct. Let the girls make the move and go from there. I've always felt that you can say more with body language than handing out some bucks and being direct. I was direct once - it was not a good move and I wouldn't do it again. However, a bachelor party would be different only this regard --if a group of guys are throwing money at a couple of dancers to entertain the groom-to-be, the dancers will get the idea if they want the cash to keep coming. If you want to do anything upfront, make sure the dancers know you're a group there for a bachelor party and there to have a good time. The girls will respond. If you know you're going to the right kind of club, you're already ahead of the game. You don't have to go searching for places for entertainment, and sounds like you already have a winner in mind. One thing I have noticed, however, if you pay for the girl and the guy isn't into it, the girls will back off--and quick. You might want to keep that in mind. If you guys are going for your own extras, well have a good time. Now I just hope I'm not posting this too late for the advise to be taken. And I'd like to see a post on how you made out with all this advise.

Should we applauding his wife? Isn't she turning away from the same reality that the shareholders would be turning away from with this guy? It can't be the first time he has pulled this. Of course, the question for Scores is what happened to discreet billing??????? Oh yeah, he took it to court. Doesn't matter. As to why he took that route, he was probably playing a game of hardnosed chicken. Figured the club would fold or negotiate. He lost. Then again, the sad thing may be that he thinks he didn't. What do you think the split was for the girls and club on the dances? Hope the girls didn't get cheated. Screw him.

Damn, I thought I was the only one who didn't like that stuff on women. I can't understand. For me, it's not an age thing. I've never liked tattoos as a kid and it's a big turnoff to me today. As for piercings - I can barely tolerate two in the ear, much less the body. Makes you wonder if the only reason girls do things is because everyone else is doing it, how independent minded are they (ain't)!!!!!

There are strippers who don't want to see guys outside the club even for money!!!

Why don't you just ask her where the relationship is going? Either that, or just sit back and enjoy it for whatever it is. If no one is getting hurt, and she's not bleeding you for cash, and you like the relationship then don't worry about it. But if it really bothers you, talk to her and find out how she views you.

Regarding Fondal's observation: It doesn't sound like the fellow who posed this question is enjoying the ride, but is more confounded by it than pleasured by it. If it does bother him that much, at some point he'll have to ask. If he's enjoying things as they are, then I agree, just enjoy the ride. Ultimately, it's going to be up to our fellow who posed the question what direction he wants to take. Besides, if he can't trust the girl to be honest in her feelings, then are we talking about a relationship, or just following the lyrics of the old Bob Seger song, "I used her, she used me, neither one cared." Ask what you want from the relationship, then you'll know what to do.

If she doesn't want you to complete the exchange she won't do anything to get you started in the first place. Or she'll let you know up front. In the end - if it happens, it happens. You're putting out the money. If it bothers her, let her get a new job. If it's really a bother to you, ask up front. But if you have had a few experiences, you can figure out soon enough if she has a problem or not.

Here's one way of getting an idea on mileage - if she keeps busy in the private lounge & customers go for extended amount of time, there must be good something going on there. It's not fool proof, but it's an indicator of something. Sometimes, the only way of knowing is by biting the bullet and laying out the cash. Look at it this way, you'll know for next time.

If you are seeing her for her birthday bring a gift - even if you want to give her some $$$$$. Mix it up. No matter how much she needs the $$$$ a little gift will be appreciated - especially on a birthday...Flowers are always good....that's my 2 cents worth....

This is a crock!! There were no evangelicals in the 17th century. You are twisting history to your own political tastes. In fact, Jefferson, Franklin and Adams, were all adverse to organized religion (They were the committee that drafted the Declaration). Religion does not belong in government. Period. It belongs in churches and the spirit of each individual. As far as the teaching of the "Bible" in schools - at what point is it the teaching of literature and philosophy or proselytization! The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were not written from Christian values, they were written from the the philosophy of the Enlightenment - which the good Christians of the era tried to destroy through the Inquisition and the Puritan over-zealousness that is echoed in this extreme Right Wing-Religiosity that has infected our politics today. Religion was seen for its poisonous side then by our founding fathers. That's why there was no test then, and no test for government positions today. Religion has its place - but not in government. If you want modern day proof of how poisonous Religion can be to government, look to the Mid-East today. Do we want to go in that direction???? And don't argue it is because it is Islam. It has nothing to do with Islam. It has everything to do with the dark nature of self-righteousness, ego, and ignorance. Besides everything else, Clean and Sober, what are you doing posting this on a Stirp Club List page unless you plan on trying to "Save Some Souls." You should be ashamed of yourself for entering this den of iniquity.

Despite the business they are in, I think some girls don't like going up to strangers. You would think that wouldn't be a problem, but I wonder if it is for some. Some others are just smart enough to know that if they go around a place talking and asking for tips, they wear out their welcome if they go around again. Some never learn. Then again, it's a job for them, while for us, it's an erotic adventure. The expectations are different. But never fear - if you have the bucks - they will appear!!!!!!

I think it depends on the club and the entertainment the girls are doing. If its a bikini club, and you ask if she works at either a nude or topless club, and she says no, odds are she won't be looking to do anything extra. I remember a girl coming up to me, very upset, that a guy asked her if she gave HJ's. She wanted to know if that kind of thing went on all the time there (it didn't). Another time, same club, girl wanted to know how much she could show in the place. And she wanted to SHOW everything, but couldn't. A third, in this club, at another time, made it clear she was more than willing to provide HJ's (pretty good at it). Moral of the story - girl's will let you know, not always in a subtile way. If its a conservative club, the girls working there probably won't. If the club is on the liberal side, you can bet the girls are also liberal. How liberal - either ask or "feel" your way around the issue. For me, I haven't really had the cash for the ultimate investment, and to be honest, I don't want to walk away from the transaction with a gift that keeps giving!!!! As the sergeant in Hill Street Blues use to say, "Be careful out there."

I'd say Jersey is stagnant. If LE gets in there, the place is done, or if the club let's something go on on the outside that pisses the neighbors off, they get closed. But if they pre-exist you don't see an upgrade. In fact, they might be on the decline out here. Might be a take-over of a place, with a name change now and then, but not much else. Things get too conservative around here at times.

This does go to show that a lot of these dancers have a conscious. I remember one time this old fellow was tipping a dancer a lot when she danced, really paying a lot of attention to her (typically singles). Apparently, he got a little disoriented in his money order and gave her a $100 bill. She came back to him and asked if he meant to give it to her. He didn't, and she gave it back to him. I would say the girl you were spending time with didn't want to give you ideas of something more than she was willing to give, or the attention was too much, maybe. I take it you finished your beers and said good-nite.

The reality is that all relationships with dancers are transitory, whether its inside or outside of the club. Eventually, they go elsewhere, because they can't do this for the rest of their lives, and, my own personal opinion, they don't want their stripper life mixing with their "real" life. Its a separate world for all of us, on both sides of the bar, and in the end, it really doesn't go anywhere - but its nice for the moment you have it. Have you ever known anyone who got into a serious thing with a dancer - that went somewhere???????? Maybe that's for a separate topic.

So what is the consensus? If a stripper mentions OTC, don't go unless you know here or does one let the lower head do the thinking for you? Protection - protection - protection - in more ways than one!!!!!!