Why should I tip if a lap dance costs $30 for four minutes - the girl gets $20 and you've done three or four dances with her - and she delivered? If you tip - and you just paid her $60 to $80 (again the $20-$10 split meaning I just put out $90 to $120), how much would you tip?
I generally do not tip extra for lap dances. I did make an exception 2 weeks ago when one of my favorites gave me a BBBJ for the price of a 2 for $20 lap dance. I thought that, that was just too cheap and gave her another $20. She was happy. When dancers ask me for tips after doing a 2 for $20 with me. This rarely happens. I will give them less than $5, if I enjoyed the dance. If I didn't enjoy the dance they get an "I'm sorry but I can't do that." My reward for a dance well done, is to get a repeat. And a repeat. Until I have had enough. This can some times go on for hours with some breaks to piss and refresh for both of us.
One thing to consider is whether you want to go back there soon. If you feel like you have spent all the money you want to spend, just leave. As long as you met the contractual agreement, there is no moral or legal cause for concern. But --- for future reference --- if you go to a place that you like, and want to get accepted and hang out from time to time you would be wise to ask a couple or three people, such as customers, dancers, and bartenders, what the normal expectations are for tipping, BEFORE you go in for the Private Dance.
By definition, a tip has to be a voluntary payment. We all "voluntarily" do things to feel good, for good will, and future reciprocity. I remember paying a girl $20 - the standard price - for a private dance a few years ago. She let me finger fuck her, and I came in my pants. When I gave her the $20, she whined -- "what, no tip?" Even though I came, I was not pleased with her attitude during the dance and that is why I didn't tip her. I avoided the place for a couple of weeks after that. And she and I never had any more to do with each other. Mutual dislike.
My idea of tipping is to become a repeat customer of hers, a regular. She gets automatic dances from me and I get good dance prices and good dances. I remember one dancer who went a bit far on her lap dances with me, what she wanted from me was to hook back up outside the club for some fun without bouncers etc. I don't think I ever tipped her anything extra in the club.
The dancers who ask for extra tips and I just met them usually turn me off immediately. I typically avoid such dancers. Especially the ones who seem to come from some other part of the country and think they deserve a tip just for walking around and asking for a dance. Every year I seem to run into a few dancers like that, I don't know where they come from. I sometimes give them a dollar and don't think too much about those dancers except to avoid them. Most dancers I'm familiar with would never ask for a tip if they're walking around asking for dances. Seems pretty cheap to me.
I remember a double team of two dancers asked to sit with me at the back side of a club one night. They didn't take more than 2 minutes to ask for a dance. I said no thanks. Then they asked for a tip. I proceeded to give a dollar to each dancer. The one prettier dancer acted insulted and displayed a very bad attitude looking disgusted and saying "you better keep your dollar, you probably need that." The other dancer seemed to reluctantly give me back my dollar as well. Stupid bitch came back later and asked for a dance again later as if nothing had happened.
Yeah talk about stupid dancers, tick off a customer with your bad attitude after you turn her down for a dance, then come back again later as if nothing happened and ask again.
I rarely tip dancers except for dancing on stage. Then they usually do a little bit of work for their tip as well. That is if you call moving around a little bit and showing themselves to be work. I guess if you're not really that interested in getting a dance from a dancer but you agree to do that, that should enough reward in my opinion. If they don't like that, they won't ask me anymore and that will be fine by me. Of course if you always tip, they will keep asking you.
I hate it when dancers 'ask' for tips, especially if they are just walking by, or after being declined a dance offer.
I will tip dancers after an extremely good LD, if I want them to return to me and sit with me.
Occassionally, I will tip a dancer in the process of a LD, just to see if the tip will increase mileage as she continues the LD. Usually, that kind of 'LD inprogress' tipping works to a degree.
I don't think I have rules re tipping in strip clubs, I tip when I feel like it and don't when I don't. In general I'm probably more likely to tip when I expect to see the girl again, and I probably am more likely to tip in an upscale club where I figure it's expected or if I'm having an especially good time. Other than that I'm probably pretty unpredictable.
FONDL Covered my tipping style. I generally tip a dancer I regularly get dances from 10 to 20 assuming we've done a string of 3 dances or more or a 1/2 hour VIP. Dancers asking for tips don't get tips. Most dancers I tips from seem to give a better dance over time with consistent tipping. Although I suspect that I weed out the ones that don't give better dances from the dancer rotation fairly quickly or at least reduce the dance numbers and quit tipping. So that may be self-fulfilling
I’m somewhat of a regular here at PP in Greenville and usually have nothing but good experiences there. I also am very selective about who I get LD’s from, using the TUSCL reviews as well as past experiences to increase my odds. Friday I was at PP during Happy Hour, with an hour and a half window to have some fun. I scoped out a couple dancers that looked promising. Celeste is one who I have had multiple dances with in the past and she is 1st rate on every level. Unfortunately, she was tied up with another customer. I also spotted a petite beauty named Trish dancing on stage and made sure I tipped her each time she moved from stage to stage. Bottom line is that I should have been patient and waited until either of these two was available. Instead, I saw a passable dancer named Jersey on stage and tipped her. She is tall and a bit on the hefty side (cottage-cheese thighs), but does look pretty good from the waist up (decent tits, reddish-blond, long hair, and passable face). As I was sitting at my table, I was approached by Jersey and she immediately started hustling me for a dance. I figured my time was running low so maybe I should settle for her, so I suggested a 2 for 1 at $30.00, which is what I typically pay for my regular dancers (this Jersey just barely qualified, a 6 at best) and she says â€how about two for $40.00â€, assuring me that I would really like her dances, etc.. So, I though, OK – even though my gut told me it probably wouldn’t be worth it. We get back to the VIP area just as a new song was starting, so as I sit down she starts right in. About 20 seconds into the dance, she says “well at 2 for 40 you aren’t allowed to touch my tits, that will cost you $40 per danceâ€. Even though she is grinding me the whole time, the big head starts taking over and I say “whoa, wait a minute, you never said anything about that out on the floor†– I should have ended things right there, but ended up negotiating a 2 for $50.00 deal which she reluctantly agrees to. Of course the dances sucked, due to a pissy attitude and in the end, she starts whining that I should give her a tip. As it turns out, I only have 3 $20’s so I figure, what the hell, and give her the whole $60.00. What she says next really floored me, she says “well I was expecting a bigger tip than this, especially since you nutted all over my ass†(which I didn’t). I just grabbed my drink and left all the while listening to her bitch. Just thought I would warn everyone that if you are in Greenville at PP watch out for this ROB.
Ironcat: I always appreciate it when a customer warns me of ROB's. Whenever I run into one at my favorite club, I bust her in my review. That will reach more customers than on this discussion board. Casualguy is the only member that posts on here that is a regular at GSP PP.
Check out the review Shadowcat, I made sure to get the word out. It is bad enough that some of the Memphis transfers are trying to price gouge, but at least they are nice about it. This one really surprised me because I have seen her at the club several times and she seemed OK (although I never got a dance from her).You are right, there are too many other dancers that value a regular customer - it just isn't worth having a bad experiences due to a ROB like Jersey.
I think a lot of girls go into dancing because they're lazy and think it's an easy way to make big bucks, they've probably been told that by some friends. They think all they have to do is get naked and the money rolls in. When that doesn't happen they blame the customers rather than their own attitude. Which of course makes the money worse for them. They're in the wrong business. Or more accurately they aren't going to be successful anywhere with that kind of attitude.
Has anyone ever tipped a 'security' guy outside a VIP area for keeping his nose nose and eyes out of the area? I've done that occassionally at The Exotic Pearl in Columbus. If I have a HOT dancer (far and few inbetween there) and want strict privacy, I'll tip the security guy a few bucks NOT to look as he passes down the VIP aisle.
Used to tip a security guy (whom I'd know for awhile) upstairs at Christie's in Memphis. He's saved my ass and the dancer's ass a couple of times when the manager would approach!
I think there's another influence at work here too, in additon to what I said above. Probably the adults closest to some of these girls have never had a real job and denigrate people who do. So the message the girls have gotten all their lives is that only losers work for a living, that the smart people figure out a way to scam those losers.
I try never to tip the girls with that kind of attitude, my attitude is that the sooner we can convince them to quit the stripping business the better.
What's interesting is that some clubs seem to be full of such girls while in other clubs you rarely see them. I wonder what the difference is, who makes them feel welcome some places but not others - management, customers, other dancers?
It doesn't seem like anyone has a hard and fast rule on tipping. When I'm in the GGR in N.J., I don't tip. But I do repeat. And that seems to work most of the time. I realize these girls have to make their bucks, but I hate the ones that make you feel like you're an ATM machine. I guess for some other places it would be wise to have a short discussion on expectations so neither one is disappointed. And if I get one that up-sales during the dance I guess the thing for all of us to do is to walk-out so they get the message. But the other head does have a way of making that difficult sometimes, doesn't it??
Ironcat, thanks for the warning. Jersey girl with cottage cheese thighs. I don't know if she works as late as I tend to visit though. I usually stick to regulars and may bluntly ask a dancer a question if I don't ask a general rule about her rules after I talk about the dance price.
I was about to leave the club last night but wanted to sit and watch the dancer on stage for a few minutes. Suddenly Celeste showed up. I'm familiar with her and lots of other dancers. I was thinking about sneaking out before she spotted me. I thought that might be hard to do all the way from near the main stage in a mostly empty club at 4AM. I was glad I didn't. She told me she was hoping I would be there. I didn't have much money left. I like it when you're a regular and dancers offer even better dance prices to keep going. I need to start remembering dancer names better. Maybe then I can ask if you've seen dancer xyz on an earlier shift. I'm thinking about 2 favorites of mine who I haven't seen since they both came at me at the same time. I left one and went and got a dance from the other one. Was wondering if those two got in an argument.
Ironcat, I know what you mean by regular dance prices around 2 for $30. I do pay even less from some dancers if I continue getting dances. As a regular, a few dancers will start dancing on songs and say that doesn't count. It should't matter as much to dancers here since the house doesn't take a per song take. If a dancer wants to sit and talk for 30 minutes and then do the 2 for one dances and dance an extra song or two to make me happy at the price she charges, she's still spending a certain amount of time with me to keep me happy as a regular. Then one dancer comes along charging prices higher than everyone else with a long list of rules. I remember one dancer had a rule where she said no licking anywhere. She actually seemed afraid of saliva. If I was afraid of that, the dancers who got my ear wet on occasion would have freaked me out sticking their tongue there. Thanks for the warning, I kind of doubt she'll continue working there for long though.
Bones - so if she sticks your dick in her mouth how much do you give her? And on top of how much have you already paid for the dance? If I get 3 dances at $30 a piece - she gets $20 and makes $60 - and she is orally accomodating, should I spend more? Is $20 the going thank you???
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By definition, a tip has to be a voluntary payment. We all "voluntarily" do things to feel good, for good will, and future reciprocity. I remember paying a girl $20 - the standard price - for a private dance a few years ago. She let me finger fuck her, and I came in my pants. When I gave her the $20, she whined -- "what, no tip?" Even though I came, I was not pleased with her attitude during the dance and that is why I didn't tip her. I avoided the place for a couple of weeks after that. And she and I never had any more to do with each other. Mutual dislike.
The dancers who ask for extra tips and I just met them usually turn me off immediately. I typically avoid such dancers. Especially the ones who seem to come from some other part of the country and think they deserve a tip just for walking around and asking for a dance. Every year I seem to run into a few dancers like that, I don't know where they come from. I sometimes give them a dollar and don't think too much about those dancers except to avoid them. Most dancers I'm familiar with would never ask for a tip if they're walking around asking for dances. Seems pretty cheap to me.
Yeah talk about stupid dancers, tick off a customer with your bad attitude after you turn her down for a dance, then come back again later as if nothing happened and ask again.
I will tip dancers after an extremely good LD, if I want them to return to me and sit with me.
Occassionally, I will tip a dancer in the process of a LD, just to see if the tip will increase mileage as she continues the LD. Usually, that kind of 'LD inprogress' tipping works to a degree.
Used to tip a security guy (whom I'd know for awhile) upstairs at Christie's in Memphis. He's saved my ass and the dancer's ass a couple of times when the manager would approach!
I try never to tip the girls with that kind of attitude, my attitude is that the sooner we can convince them to quit the stripping business the better.
What's interesting is that some clubs seem to be full of such girls while in other clubs you rarely see them. I wonder what the difference is, who makes them feel welcome some places but not others - management, customers, other dancers?
I was about to leave the club last night but wanted to sit and watch the dancer on stage for a few minutes. Suddenly Celeste showed up. I'm familiar with her and lots of other dancers. I was thinking about sneaking out before she spotted me. I thought that might be hard to do all the way from near the main stage in a mostly empty club at 4AM. I was glad I didn't. She told me she was hoping I would be there. I didn't have much money left. I like it when you're a regular and dancers offer even better dance prices to keep going. I need to start remembering dancer names better. Maybe then I can ask if you've seen dancer xyz on an earlier shift. I'm thinking about 2 favorites of mine who I haven't seen since they both came at me at the same time. I left one and went and got a dance from the other one. Was wondering if those two got in an argument.
ok back on topic I guess.