Comments by enquiz2001 (page 2)

Only one problem with the smell - if you got a cold you are SOL. Then again, one shouldn't be out spreading his germs anyway!!!!

The only reason a woman is going to shave or trim is for that neat look with the g-striing or bathing suit. Less hair means less fuss. But I have to admit, I like petting the kitty, long or short hair.

I hope the dances you guys get are as much of a bargain as they sound. There's a few clubs in the N.J. area where the prices are much higher. One charges $180 a half hour for a private room. Questionable that it is worth more than the 5 minute $20 dances you get in the semi-public area. It if is, nobody's talking, and I have not taken the opportunity. If I hit the lottery, then its a different story. The number club on the rating here (and I'm sure you've read) charges $30 for 5 minutes in the private room. Generally, the dances at any other club I've been to charges $20 for a song/5 minutes (depending on how they price it). I remember years ago, this club, the Go-Go Rama, with the $180 half hour, they raised the price on the LD's (long before they had the private room) to $25. They almost went broke and had to lower it again to $20. The girls have control over attracting us, but we do control the bankroll. Now if the GGR would only lower their price to something more reasonable on the private booth!! I would think the option of $30 for 5 minute or even $90 for 15 minutes would be more reasonable. $180 in one shot is a lot to blow for an unknown quantity.

I would think one of two things are happening with that girl. Either you are creeping her out, or she doesn't see you as "just another customer." Maybe she has feelings for you? Hard to say. I guess there are three options. Stay away and just let it fade away. Continue with what you are doing and see where it goes. Or just be blunt and ask her if she is feeling anything too, or if its just your imagination. It's tough meeting someone in these clubs for more than the show. Too much baggage, and I think, when a girl retires, she doesn't want to advertise she was a stripper if she gets a "legitimate" job. I knew a stripper who was heavily involved with a guy. He did not know she was a stripper (she only did it part-time to earn extra cash. Had a sales job full time.). She finally told him. He freaked out and broke it off. She never made the same mistake again.

I have had the unfortunate experience of getting a lap dance and losing count. So I can't be certain if it was me or her, but it was only one dance and I didn't feel like fighting about it. As far as this CEO, if he had just paid the bill and learned his lesson, he wouldn't be in the pickle he is now. It's all about ego. I guess some guys, when they get that high up and feel that full of themselves, don't know how to take no for an answer. I wonder too, how many guys like this go out and run up bills like this and do pay. Ego - it can be a dangerous thing. Wonder if he's divorced yet, if he was married.

If I was enamored with her as much as you were, I'd follow her suggestion and go for the talk. The LD can always wait for a good-bye moment. Better things could happen through the conversation. But if I were in your shoes, and she made that suggestion to me, I would follow her lead. If I'm still anxious for the LD, I just wait for the opportunity. If it doesn't happen, I would probably be disappointed, but I would be more disappointed to ruin the moment. Some memories can be more precious in the future than others. Do we get the ending to your story at some point??

This also depends on the neighborhood. I know of clubs in a, shall we say a large urban center in the Northern portion of the Garden State, where extras are common. So are drugs, shootings, etc. (haven't taken up the excursion because of the latter concerns). The one thing that concerns me about extras - of the OTC type - is that you receive something extra in return - such as the gift that keeps giving. Then again, there is protectoin.

What I have been told is that condoms are the most effective way of avoiding STD next to abstinence. The problems arise when they are not used correctly. No one ever described what "not using correctly" means, but I guess it's not putting it all the way on before use. Maybe you could check out Consumer Reports. They have done tests on them. Sorry, no better science than that for ya.

How much does it tell you about a dancer when you go to kiss her (wheter on the lips or cheek) and she's already scanning the horizon for her next victim??? If she talks to you after the LD, and goes for the kiss, or allows the kiss, I'd say that says something. Maybe some girls won't allow kissing on the lips for fear of catching cold or whatever. I know, I know, you've spent so much time in contact already, and why would it matter, but there's got to be some thinking along those lines going on.

I take it from the discussion that no one is planning to alter his LD habits based on the possibility of getting the flu. A toast to the dancers, and get your shots where you can. I got mine at a local supermarket that conducts the clinic there each year. $25 for the shot. Check your doctor. All I can tell you - its worth getting - even if it does cover a few strains. But I do feel an urge to shit on a windshield and I'm making noises that wake up the neighbors at sunrise!!!!

It really comes down to a combination of things. I agree, from experience I've had, that girls worry about what other girls will complain about. It's the complainants that can kill a show. Of course, it also matters how the managment reacts to the complaints. I guess if managment doesn't care, the complaining girl will leave if high contact bothers her. Then there is the issue of local enforcement making its opinion known (I'm guessing at that one, but I'm sure it happens). So what's a guy to do? I guess try it and like it and see what happens. I'll tell you one story, unfortunately I got this from the paper and didn't find out about this place until after it was shut down (where was the Internet then, could have used it). Anyway, apparently, everything and anything happened in this club and there was no LD area. It was all in the open. In fact, it was so crowded (according to the article I read) that they took the stools out of the bar so more people could fit in (I'm just telling you what I read). I think the place is a supermarket today. Damn.

I agree with tipping if you are sitting at the stage. At this particular club, the bar surrounds the stage, and the girls don't take tips while dancing. The tipping is done as the girls circulate around the bar. That's when it gets a little annoying, because you are no longer watching the show and it begins to feel more like an obligation than a show. A little sad to say that, it does get annoying.

For me - the answer I give these girls "Maybe later" is because I don't want to hurt their feelings. They may be pros, but I think any gal in this business suffers from some sense of insecurity. I'm going to tell next time not right, I'm still checking things out and see the result. If I get slapped down you guys will hear about it!!!!!!!

I wish there was a way I could go back and edit some of what I wrote. I had to re-read my last post three or four times to understand what the hell I was writing! I hope you guys figured it out. I wish there was a simple system to deal with the girls, but I guess the biggest problem is the girls get so much BS they don't know what to believe. Then again, we get a fair share of BS too. I guess too, if I really want to get a dance with a girl after I've been there a while, I can always get up off my fat ass and ask. Have you noticed some postings where the guys seem to have problems doing this? Oh wait - that's for another discussion.

Hey, accidents happen. And some girls are repulsed if you release, or if you do release, just don't get them wet. The one turn-off I found was a girl who tells you up front she doesn't like it when someone has a release, and she acts to keep you from getting too much of an erection. Anxiety is the biggest problem for me. My hat off to you guys who have no issues with getting the flag up.

I'll go with the second. I don't think where I've seen this used that they would be talking about Homeland Security. Thanks.

Shadowcat - I read that review. Sounded like you had an interesting time of it. Since songs vary in time, it really doesn't sound like a good deal for you guys. At least when it gets timed, you know what you are getting. With the songs, its too easy to cheat. But you obviously pay less than around here, so I guess it's a trade off. One thing about the place that charges $180 for 30 minutes, there are cameras in each booth. I don't know how restrictive that makes the entertainment (it may be there more to protect the girls than anything else - maybe) but one does read or hear complaints about it. I guess if you want something where anything goes and there isn't a stopwatch going, it's OTC. But that can get into cost, either financial or emotional. Just a question of how much one wants to invest. To everyone, I checked out some of you're postings - I guess things are a little cheaper in the Midwest.

I'll add two stories to this - both from a Jersey bikini bar. To give you a picture of the club - imagine a local watering hole with dancers (bikinis). No LD's, champaigne room, etc. This one club was in fact the first go-go bar I had been to many years ago (don't even want to think about that part). Anyway, went in one time and this girl, she had a great sense of humor, is "joking" with me about coming over and giving me some relief. I said sure, not expecting much. Now understand, except for a flash now and then, not much goes on here. Well, she comes over, tells me to sit closer and at an angle, and tells me to unzip. Next thing I know, willy is out and she proceeds to give willy some relief with the aid of a little oil she carried around and the old hand motion. From then on, I learned, she was open to providing relief to customers for $20. I sought relief a few times. She was quite good at keeping things quiet. She stopped working at the clubs when either the money wasn't right or she couldn't continue to provide services. She did offer some OTC, but I never partook. Maybe I should have once. Another story, similar to one posted here, I was watching some girls dance in the same bikini bar along with a few patrons. A girl walks in behind me, and proceeds to walk around the bar. She walks up to this guy who was engaged in some conversation. He turns to her and smiles. She leads with a right hook to the head and he was down for the count. She said something (couldn't hear, but could imagine), and walked out. The guy eventually got up off the floor and soon left afterward. No one came after the girl. TRUE STORY - BOTH OF THEM!

Maybe one day this will be viewed as a health department issue and not a law enforcement issue. If government were to tax this stuff we could probably cut out income taxes....

If you have the privacy and the protection, then I think a HJ or a CBJ is not a problem - extras or part of the service plan in the place. But no matter what - protection is essential to all service activity.