Comments by chowder (page 3)

I went down on a girl ITC once. We hit OTC a few times. One time she asked me to meet her at her apartment. She proceeded ask me to go down on her and her girlfriend. The next few OTC's were on the house.

My favs are Dearborn, MI - clubs are basically brothels. Level of talent/cost depends on the club. Tampa/Clearwater - LD factories have hottest dancers. Other have unlimited ITC options. Dallas - LD factories to good mileage ITC clubs. Girls are hot. Have to work around Cuban invasion. Haven't tried OTC but will next chance I get.

Arkansas, Tennessee - Bible belt (aka the land of no touch) Detroit ITC/OTC - Only in suburbs. In town no go. Tampa - Mileage depends on the club. Some are LD factories other are up for whatever for a low cost.

Only when getting a hummer

Yes. If I am going for ITC I am first in or it's a no go. Depending on alcohol intake I might go for a hummer mid to late shift. Or I will take her home and hit it in the morning. If I am just getting dances it doesn't really matter.

Detroit suburbs, General Tampa area, South Florida would be my CF. Haven't been able to do much out west or in TJ.

I tend to drift toward younger natural girls who aren't too made up. That gets my attention. Attitude, personality, and the ability to sell the fantasy keep me coming back for more. I prefer a fit/toned body, natural tits, and less make up. Not opposed to fake tits. But fake ass and injected lips are a deal breaker. And it never hurts for her to be confident but affectionate.

I would prefer all current pricing and mileage limits on each review. These are always subject to change no matter what was 10 reviews ago. There are several clubs I would bend over backwards to go to six months ago but wouldn't bother right now due to changes.

Always negotiate. But you have to be clear what you are looking for.....a quickie, a date/GFE....then just work it out with her. If you really like her then don't try to get her for bargain prices. If you are new to the OTC game do a search on here and read up on it. Often the cost is the least of your concerns if you don't know what you are getting into.

In addition to Mon's and BBD (both of which I enjoy) The Lodge and The Men's Club in Dallas are good LDF. Very different vibe that. BBD but fun as well. Spearmint Rhino, Cowboy's, and Platinum Dolls in Lexington, KY are good LDF's. It is hard to beat Mons and BBD imo. for a LDF. Both places have hot women, dances are handsy grinds, and fun atmospheres.

I tend to drop $800-1K in my fav club. It is high maintenance but worth every penny to me. The girls are 8+ and lots of options ITC or OTC. Lots of residuals also come of this like non-expensed excursions. I pay them for their time. The rest just happens how/when it happens. Sometimes we just hang out. Other times we go at it.

Yep. That is why Tennessee clubs, in particular Nashville, often rank towards the bottom of anyone's list.

Women mature faster than men. And they see what the mindset of an early 20's male is, and it is usually not one that is attractive as household provider. It is basic biology.

Nixur68 it all depends on the girl and what you are looking for. First you have to figure out if what you are looking for is on the club or girl's menu. If it is then it all down to the cost and how much you are comfortable spending. Spending more doesn't always get you more. Find a girl you like and just ask her. Be direct. Beating around the bush only leads to money spent with disappointment.

It is all about the experience for me. If I see someone I like and enjoy spending time with them ( right now my ATF ) I will pay way above market, sometimes more than other times. But it is worth it to me and this has relative high value. If I am not interested or am feeling someone out I will be much more frugal.

Pappi - I generally agree but I pay up to lock her down some when I see her. When I see her it isn't an in & out and we hang in and out of the club. She is in high demand and she is in a buyer's market. And there is a lot of added value for the money spent. So for me we both get what we are looking for. We agreed on the business end for her time up front a long time ago and have never discussed it again. If it were some other dancer I wouldn't go near as far.

I prolly avg $600 - $800 on my CF per visit. Sometimes more just depending on extra disposable fun money. I pay up and I know it. I am not bargain shopping. She is my CF and worth it to me. If it wasn't her then I would typically drop the numbers in half.

Just depends on the mood and the dancer. I wouldn't limit myself to either honestly.

Club-wise you are going to be disappointed if you are accustomed to FC. Lexington,KY has a few party-type clubs on the east side of town. Full nude/contact dances but no extras. Ohio clubs are terrible and TN clubs are worse. The Mouses Ear in Knoxville is fully nude eye candy but no private dances, no touch, and the dancers have to stay 3 feet away.

Depends on the dancer. I have spent a shit ton more in a single evening because I had it to spend, and my CF/ATF needed a good night. It was worth it to me that she have a great night. So it was worth it to me. If it wasn't my ATF I wouldn't do it.

False. I go to my fav club based on quality of dancers, ambience, and how much fun can be had. I do have a CF there though and I do go see her there. But that isn't the only reason. I have to keep open interviews for her replacement at all times so I keep going back to field said interviews.

I think to be a better customer is to be more direct with what you are looking for. She has heard it all before. No need to beat around the bush. If she isn't up for what you are then it is best to move along for both of you. I spent too much time and money playing the inuindo game and it never worked out.

ITC, OTC, Tips, Poker

IME coyness leads to money spent with disappointment. If a PL is coy they will leave themselves open to the bait-and-switch that goes on in most clubs. As the PL you just have to know the turf you are playing in and proceed accordingly. If I am direct with a dancer and she isn't up for it or gets mad, it didn't cost me money and I didn't get disappointed. I don't go to clubs to play games and be led on.

Having to learn how to balance SS with the end goal of OTC and how to keep a safe distance personally.