Relative value of money

rickdugan
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It's funny how we can view money differently when it comes to paying a stripper for xyz. For me it really brings home the concept of relative value.

I will do things like drive further down the street for cheaper gas, wait until I can get to my own bank to withdraw cash while avoiding bank fees and load up on meats when they go on sale at my favorite market. The actual savings are modest, but I simply hate feeling ripped off for stuff like this.

But when I hit the club, I feel no qualms about spending a wad of money on what really is, at its core, frivolous entertainment. This includes paying a girl an amount for sex that she would need to work 20-30 hours to earn in her best vanilla job option.

Anyone else find themselves doing something similar and/or pondering the relative value of money when dealing with strippers?

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Muddy
5 years ago
This has dawned on me. I’m very cheap outside the club. Think a big night out at the strip club could cost you maybe 4-500? It’s not cheap but many customers can stare down that barrel in a club. Outside the club though that’s a big screen TV, a house payment, car payment. Not a small thing in the least.

But it’s not ME. I am reasonable. My dick is not. My dick is a very powerful thing. And when it’s making decisions half my paycheck seems like a reasonable amount to spend. My penis has also thinks that strippers are the greatest investment of all.
Mate27
5 years ago
I’m very value oriented. If you spend a few hundred on a hot dancer doing what you like, then that is a good deal for you and money well spent.

The reason why you always look for good value is so you can continue to enjoy good things. Saving a few $$ here and there over a course of a week allows you to spend frivolously on entertainment to keep you sane enough to go back to work and deal with family and life demands. I see nothing rong with spending some dough on this hobby.

I look at strippers like I view a good nurse. They keep me healthy(mentally and physically) so I can live to fight another day.
whodey
5 years ago
While I am always looking to save money on buying run of the mill items I am more open to spending whatever is necessary for a memorable experience. While this obviously includes strip clubs it doesn't stop there. If I am going to a concert or sporting event I will gladly shell out 3-5 times as much for a good seat. When going on vacation I will gladly pay more to stay in a nicer hotel. Even going out for dinner and drinks with friends I will gladly pay for a nice meal and higher quality alcohol.

It's easy to see money as more valuable than merchandise but I value an experience more than money.
Muddy
5 years ago
^^^I agree with that whodey I will pay for a great memories I think it’s definitely worth it.
Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
Sexual desire can make males do all kinds of head-scratching things
Nidan111
5 years ago
I make money so that we can have fun. I am not a materialistic person. I don’t give two shits about “stuff”, but having fun and making memories is worth the cash outlay to me.
Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
I'm usually conservative w.t.t. spending - I don't mind spending if I feel I'm getting good-value, but I hate over-spending in terms of paying more than something is worth and I try to avoid that as much as possible - and if I don't need something then I don't get it just bc I can (and yeah SCing is kinda a need along the lines of what Meat mentioned) - in a SC I don't mind spending but I am mindful of overspending via not getting good value - I don't try to get the lowest price but avoid overpaying no matter how hot she may be, overpaying for me kinda tskes some of the fun out of it (if $$$ wasn't an issue for me and my retirement was set then I may be more loose but that's not the case).
Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
Being a regular SCer *is* kinda whacky - I can't think of any other disposable-type expenditure where one spends as much except maybe those that use drugs - to me it takes about $200 to have a decent time in a SC yet spending $200 on a dinner is something the avg person only does once in a while
gawker
5 years ago
My ATF charged me $500 an hour for OTC. I had a lucrative job and a decent pension. She had a heroin habit. I figure I set up 401(k)s for 1/2 the drug dealers in her hometown. She now is sober and working for $12.00 an hour. Her fiancé works construction for $15 or $16/ hour. Their wedding is coming up and it’s spartan and on the beach, but it’s gunna cost between $4k and $5k. She asked to borrow $500 today. I now am living on my pension alone and frankly don’t have an extra $500. So I spent about 3 hours today helping to lower some of the costs. She will have less bling in her wedding ring and he’s going to have carbon tungsten instead of gold. Her savings $180. Wedding cupcakes instead of a wedding cake - $3.00 per hand decorated cupcake vs. $5.00 per person for cake. Bottom line she saved about $400 today. We talked extensively about how it’s all relative to expectations and income.
Daddillac
5 years ago
I spend a lot but I am also a cheap bastard. I shop at costco, I load digital coupons at kroger, There were many years when I was younger that money was not always as readily available. I learned how to be cheap. I save my fuel points and get my daughter to meet me at kroger so we can max out the 35 gallons. But then if it is making memories, saving time, etc... I'm all about spending it. I have enough saved to not worry about it though. If I ever start eating into my nest egg then I'll go into super saver mode lol
623
5 years ago
I don’t mind spending but I hate overspending. That’s why prices in reviews are so valuable. If others are getting a bj for 60 I don’t want to find out after I have already paid 150. If others are getting extra attention in the back couches I am pissed if I find out after I spend for the VIP room. Since I travel so much I don’t always have time to learn the intel by trial and error so this site has saved me tons, even sending me to the high value clubs first.

Thanks to all who include this info in the reviews, I try to pay it forward after my visits.
MackTruck
5 years ago
Money by is worth shitcoins
Icey
5 years ago
If I spend any money on a girl, I view it as an investment. But yeah spending in the club is just frivolous.... but I don't spend more than I can.
BrotherFogHorn
5 years ago
Put all your money in the collection plate. Da Lawerd will bless thee
BrotherFogHorn
5 years ago
And i will buy some hookers
twentyfive
5 years ago
I view money more as a tool that I use to accomplish many different things, it is useful and the value fluctuates depending on what my goal at the moment is.
It helps to be focused on results rather than worrying about value.
RandomMember
5 years ago

Yeah, I've thought about this topic a lot.

I was such a tightwad in my 20s and 30s and the thought of blowing money on girls would have been unthinkable back then. I barely knew that stripclubs existed back then and didn't set foot in strip club until almost 40. I rationalize by setting a limit of <1% of net worth yearly, which has nothing to do with salary, and an amount I feel I can piss away without worrying.

Another rationalization is that I'm helping these college girls do something with their lives. This cute Asian girl I'm seeing this summer did well in high school and she has solid, practical plans for college. Her father left at an early age, so she really needs the money. She'd probably rather sleep with someone her own age -- but she makes more in an evening with me that a week working at her old job as a hostess. From a moral standpoint, sure beats paying a stripper in drugs or being a pimp. No?
RandomMember
5 years ago
(less than)1% of net worth yearly, which has nothing to do with salary, and an amount I feel I can piss away without worrying.

Another rationalization is that I'm helping these college girls do something with their lives. This cute Asian girl I'm seeing this summer did well in high school and she has solid, practical plans for college. Her father left at an early age, so she really needs the money. She'd probably rather sleep with someone her own age -- but she makes more in an evening with me that a week working at her old job as a hostess. From a moral standpoint, sure beats paying a stripper in drugs or being a pimp. No?
RandomMember
5 years ago
Keep forgetting that the (less than) sign deletes the remainder of your post
Subraman
5 years ago
Yep, I think this is all of us. In general: We'll feel better paying for amazing experiences than for routine non-luxury goods and services. More "luxury" part of the sex industry (SC, SA, FBSM) counts as experience, not service, for many/most SCers (versus the guys bottom-trawling bp for $100 escorts or AMP girls)

Aside from amazing experiences, when it comes to luxury goods, I own a $75 pen (don't even ask how much the refill I'm using costs lol), but I'll still bias to buying my bread on sale, using the ATM at my bank, etc. Luxury goods and great experiences (especially sexual ones) definitely get motivated by a different part of the brain than routine goods and services.
rickdugan
5 years ago
I just find it funny that some of us will drive 15 extra minutes to save $2 on a tank of gas or avoid a $3 bank withdrawal fee, but have no qualms about spending one hundred times that just to get laid.

Even on the grocery front, all the efforts I go through to drop sale meats into the freezer chest or load up on other sale goods might net me $2-300 per month in total savings (for a family of 5), yet I'd eagerly drop that same amount for a short time in my hotel room with a hot piece of tail.

Relative value is an amazing thing, as is how we rationalize what we do. 😉
Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
I don't necessarily think it's apples to oranges - i.e. the avg regular-SCer also tries to get good/fair deals it's just that pussy is much-more expensive than the avg staple
twentyfive
5 years ago
I’ll spend for quality every time but that’s me.
Jascoi
5 years ago
ditto subraman...
i feel better paying for amazing experiences than for routine goods and services.
i’ve been cutting back on what I spend on my living expenses to the point of being absolutely cheap. i’d rather be spending my money on enjoying the beautiful young ladies.
Papi_Chulo
5 years ago
We're such PLs - here we are driving around town to find the cheapest bread and gas just so we can go give the $$$ we save to the dancers - it's no wonder they have GPS

😄
nicespice
5 years ago
As a dancer, I have had zero qualms with paying a club an extra $60 numerous times to either come in later or leave early. 🙂

My biggest splurge are for things I consider inconvenient. Doing nails&other beauty related things, parking in a garage vs circling for street parking, food I don’t have to prep/cook (tho I’ve been improving on that last one)

And I have a tendency to overtip when it comes to services. Even if I showed up somewhere with a Groupon.

But on the plus side I don’t spend money on too much of anything else. My largest expense is easily Airbnbs, which costs $900-1550/month. More than I’m used to paying for shelter. But not too terrible compared to rent&utilities in many places.
nicespice
5 years ago
A couple of weeks ago, I met a man stone cold sober and about to leave the club soon. He gives me $100 to ask for $20s back. Then using those $20s, he stuffed my bra with said 20s and gently squeezed my tits and didn’t buy dances. And repeated this process two more times. I think we hung out for about 45 minutes? 😁 I could repeat other random stories here and there.

I view the tuscl crowd pretty value oriented in comparison. Lol
minnow
5 years ago
We can get distorted $$ value in the strip club world. I'll buy up those 99c 3 liter water jugs to refill 0.5 - 1 liter bottles, yet "blithely" spend $3 - $6 in club for a 10 oz bottle. Ditto on buying 64 oz OJ for ~ $3.50 at grocer, and slapping down aforementioned $3 - $6 for 10 - 12 oz cup.

Yet on another front, we can sometimes do irrational things with both time and money. Lately I've taken to spending more at nearer grocery store for some things vs. driving 5 more minutes to Walmart. Even though I'm spending more, I'm saving some measure of time by less driving time and less waiting in line.
I just think life is too short to waste it standing in line at Walmart.

Otoh, I've also driven 7 - 10 further miles to bypass an otherwise good club for one more of my liking. Bypassed club had license scan policy, a deal breaker for me. I'm hoping the later doesn't gain too much traction because I don't easily budge on deal breaking items. Yet I don't want to forego club going either.
chowder
5 years ago
It is all about the experience for me. If I see someone I like and enjoy spending time with them ( right now my ATF ) I will pay way above market, sometimes more than other times. But it is worth it to me and this has relative high value. If I am not interested or am feeling someone out I will be much more frugal.
san_jose_guy
5 years ago
Nicespice, that guy should have then initiated a front room makeout session.

SJG
nicespice
5 years ago
SJG, he had to go home to watch the democratic debate.

nicespice
san_jose_guy
5 years ago
^^^^ Sounds like a good guy.

SJG
Mistah_Fetti_Morbuxxx
5 years ago
For me this is a hobby, so I don't mind spending money on a hobby that I like. I view it in the same vein as those that like to spending money on other forms of entertainment such as professional sporting events, music concerts, amusement parks, etc. where one can expect to spend at least $300 minimum between buying tickets, food, drinks, souvenirs, etc. Only difference is that I'm spending it on ADULT entertainment. Or even other hobbies such as fishing, hunting, camping, or hiking trips where those can cost a decent amount of money as well. I only go to clubs twice a month so it doesn't break my bank and I generally do a good job in sticking with my budget though I have overspent a handful of times. But I don't view it as money wasted unless it involves a ripoff bitch.

I'm not an extreme cheapskate to begin with but I generally want to get the best value out of my hard-earned money whether it is at strip clubs or shopping at a supermarket. Fortunately the clubs that I go to are not expensive in terms of dances or even VIP in comparison to other clubs in the country.
san_jose_guy
5 years ago
In my view you can't look at all of this as "value for the money".

Yes, it is costly. And no, one cannot really do it without money.

But the girl you meet in the club, and give a lot of money to, you can also likely be seeing outside. And then all options are open.

Most of the time, men are getting paid more money in the conventional jobs market, and most of the time some of this money, or benefit from it, is flowing to the women they fuck. So really, no big deal.

SJG
jestrite50
5 years ago
I see a couple different types of spending here. One is the needs type of spending. Utilities , Food, Clothing, necessities like that. We always try to get the best price on those items and will dicker (no pun intended) on the price of those items.

The other is Recreational spending ; Season Ticket to our favorite sports team, that new Camper you've always wanted, That new Stainless Steel Grill that runs 12,000.00 , New Fireplace you've always wanted, New Home, Hott Woman or whatever. Sometimes I will over pay on this because I want to look, feel rich, etc. and brag how much she cost me !
jestrite50
5 years ago
OTC last night

i paid a hott babe for a couple hours of fun. $$$ about a Benny more than I pay anyone else because we had dinner, playtime at the hotel, and we walked arm and arm hand in hand around the Mall / Hotel parking lot. A true GFE date. I paid her more because #1 She was hotter and it boosted my ego. #2 Because she didnt rush me and said she would stay as long as I wanted her to. I was more than satisfied with what I paid because it had added value.
Nidan111
5 years ago
@nicepice. I could see that happening with the guy and his $20’s. You have that “persona” about you. Lol
san_jose_guy
5 years ago
Maybe Mister Deep Bra Stuff will return. Then nicespice can tell us what it is like to be waking up in the morning with him.

:) :) :)

SJG
BBBC
5 years ago
I just find it funny that some of us will drive 15 extra minutes to save $2 on a tank of gas or avoid a $3 bank withdrawal fee, but have no qualms about spending one hundred times that just to get laid.

Even on the grocery front, all the efforts I go through to drop sale meats into the freezer chest or load up on other sale goods might net me $2-300 per month in total savings (for a family of 5), yet I'd eagerly drop that same amount for a short time in my hotel room with a hot piece of tail.

Relative value is an amazing thing, as is how we rationalize what we do. 😉
san_jose_guy
5 years ago
^^^^^ Very true.

SJG
JAprufrock
5 years ago
It helps save money when you have few interests other than women. For example, unlike some friends, I don’t golf, don’t have pets (which can drain money), don’t go to concerts, movies, shows or sporting events (not to save money, they just don’t interest me), don’t go to expensive restaurants, rarely eat out, don’t have a boat, drive a modest car and buy food mostly on sale, where a few bucks saved adds up over time.
Also helps that I don’t have a girlfriend and don’t date, not that there’s anything wrong with that. I’m perfectly content to pay for female companionship (essentially with the money I save from not indulging in those other things that don’t interest me).
As long as my kids are taken care (I pay their entire college tuition, buy them anything they need and plan on leaving them a hefty inheritance), that’s my No. 1 focus. Then it’s p4p.
Ideal? No. Not the life I envisioned 20 years ago. But I didn’t choose it. I had it shoved up my ass. And I’m trying to make the best of it.
san_jose_guy
5 years ago
" few interests other than women"

LOL, the pervert life.


I recognized this here right off, Collin Wilson starts off his 1956 "The Outsider" talking about:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell_(Barb…

SJG

HungryGiraffe
5 years ago
If you ask the question, “Is adult entertainment, specifically the full range of sex worker services, a commodity? Unlike gasoline, food staples and lots of other everyday items, physical intimacy with an attractive woman is not a commodity. Simple law of supply and demand. Us PLs who “need” those services are willing to pay the price demanded for the non-commodity work.
rickdugan
5 years ago
===> 25 posted: "I’ll spend for quality every time but that’s me."

Yet you shop at Costco for a reason. Buying items on sale does not preclude a quality focus. I am fussy about the quality of meats that go in my freezer and Mrs. Dugan is equally fussy about the quality of other items that go into our fridge and pantry. We simply buy in bulk when the prices are right.
twentyfive
5 years ago
Where did I ever say I was against saving money, I actually find that I get more value buying quality item They generally last longer, taste better, and are healthier in the long run.
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