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12 years ago
@bumrummer,
If you are worried about the inside of the club being gross then either of the DV clubs will not be a concern, particularly not the DV on Main which is very new, clean, and upscale. In most of LA you can die of old age trying to find a cab but the Staples Center/LA Live/Convention Center zone on Fig is a major exception.
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12 years ago
I just keep reminding myself of one thing. On any given night most likely 25 percent of the customers are newbs. So they are not going to be surprised if you ask.
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12 years ago
OK, You can walk a couple of blocks to the east to Olive Street and catch the DASH D bus which will take you right to the corner where DV Union Station is. Or, since Staples Center is one of the few places where it is not hard to find a cab in LA the DV on Main street is a short trip (walking distance if you weren't worred about it being 'ghetto')
I've seen branded vans at both DV clubs so it might be that if your group is large enough they will shuttle you if you call and ask.
Between the two downtown DV clubs Union Station is better value and Main Street is fancier.
You could also take the Blue line to Rio on Washington Blvd or take a longer taxi ride to Spearmint Rhino.
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12 years ago
The problem is that when the dancer files the income tax return for 2011 she might be facing quite a bill. Because if she declares enough income to satisfy the landlord she may wind up paying both a substantial quantity of self-employment tax plus interest.
On the other hand if she has dependent minor children she might wind up with an EITC that will wipe out most of it or even result in a refund.
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12 years ago
At least in LA the primary form of strip clup advertisements are billboards with specialty newspapers a close second. The problem in LA is that any station with a strong enough signal that people actually listen to it covers more than the local market of the club.
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12 years ago
I have to agree that anybody who thinks that their status with the dancer is more than just a customer is well on their way to being a PL.
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12 years ago
The last paragraph pretty much sums it up. You can't claim somebody's endorsement without their approval. They club owners most likely knew it and just wanted the publicity of having to take the name down.
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12 years ago
Again I think that the Strip Clubs are engaging in wishful thinking. They would have to front major money for renovation. And without renovation they spend too much rent on nonproductive space. By comparison any massage place would have to change nothing to become a bordello since they already have the right layout. And any group of girls could rent a three bedroom condo, have one of them be the hostess/receptionist, hire a bouncer, and be in business. Trust me, Toronto zoning enforcement is not going to be examining every ad in backpage.com or NOW goes to an address zoned for adult commercial use.
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12 years ago
I think that the strip club owners are engaging in wishful thinking.
The ruling left in place laws against solicitation, so running a large club like bordello might be a problem.
The ruling also struck down the rules regarding living off of the prostitution of another, but they specified that the ruling was meant so that prostitutes could hire drivers, receptionists, and security. What was deemed an exploitive situation, i.e. pimps, was still kept illegal. It will be legally risky for a club owner to not be considered equivalent to a pimp. The model that the court was trying to allow was of a single prostitute of a small group jointly running their own incall operation.
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12 years ago
I agree that airports have high rents and generally don't keep late hours and are expensive parking for locals. On the other hand there are lots of good clubs near airports for much the same reason.
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12 years ago
Frankly I shudder to think what the club is going to do to you if they find you brought drugs onto the premises and distributing them to the dancers.
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12 years ago
wanderer
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12 years ago
Here's a unique one. In China order something from TaoBao.com (their equivalent of Amazon) and then pay ten yuan extra to select a girl from the Tao Girls internet modeling site come and hand-deliver it to your door.
Once the pretty girl is at your door you offer her more to come inside, because she certainly didn't come all that way for just ten yuan!
http://www.chinahush.com/2012/04/20/taobao-to-offer-beautiful-tao-girls-personally-delivering-internet-goods-ingenious/
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12 years ago
The thing is if they 'audition' in front of customers while the club was open then they are already working and have to be paid. I can understand perhaps the club manager wanting to see how well the girl looks and moves naked, but honestly if they can't do that then are going to washout pretty darn fast anyhow.
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12 years ago
Listen, it is no great walk of shame if it turns out you left a little in your pants, even if it is just pre-cum. They are trying to stimulate you at least to near orgasm as part of their dance. Either way I am going there to wash my hands, straighten out my hair etc.
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12 years ago
Frankly the girls need to be doing something interesting. Interesting with the pole, interesting on the floor, interesting with something else. They are looking to be remembered distinctly from the other girls in the club, and one jiggle on the floor is pretty much like another.
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12 years ago
according to the article a dance cost 80 to 90 thousand pesos, which converts to between $45 and $50. But from a certain standpoint all strip clubs are kind of seedy by nature.
Honestly if this had been found out during the prior administration (and since the Secret Service are staff and not political appointees it most likely did happen then because it was the same people!) it most likely would have been dismissed quietly as some boys-will-be-boys misbehaving rather than some massive moral rot in the agency. But there is an industry that lives on manufacturing outrage against this particular president.
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12 years ago
Not exactly so much a run on sentence as lacking punctuation.
Twitter will be the death of the English language yet.
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12 years ago
In general it is agencies, not independents, who do the bait and switch. Just make it clear that if it is not the girl in the photo you are going to leave and then follow through.
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12 years ago
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motorheadFat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life
I too see it as odd that guys discuss clubs and then so much of their focus is not being at the club. I got to figure that OTC drives club managers nuts. They see the money going outside for a setup that they created.
Personally if I was all that interested in getting an escort I would cut out the complexity and just go to backpage or cityvibe.
Now, honestly if Founder wanted to create a parallel site for Massage Parlors and escort services, particularly if one membership counted for all I would be all over it.
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12 years ago
If one was looking for a reason to feel guilty about being in a club there is no problem finding it without looking for rings.
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12 years ago
She will not likely go uncovered for you unless you are a porn star with an established production company. Those 'in the industry' take regular and ongoing aids testing and have a system for alerting each other if a test shows up positive months later. Outside of the porn shoots themselves they are very health conscious since even something treatable like gonorrhea could mean a lot of lost income.
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12 years ago
The pelvic floor contains muscles. It is the state of the muscles that makes a difference. Childbirth will stretch and tear the muscles but they will heal. Exercise will make them stronger. While a girl who has never experienced childbirth might have to concentrate on relaxing the muscles during sex a mother might instead need to concentrate on contracting her pelvic floor muscles to squeeze you. The experience is the same.
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12 years ago
Outside the strip club industry OTC is often used as off the clock, but honestly strippers aren't on any sort of a clock.