Comments by MIClubber

The most recent CF is quite similiar to your experience: 1. Good eye and body contact on stage. 2. Talked for a while before the dance. 3. Told me I could touch her anywhere and engaged in light kissing, and close intimate style dancing, just the way that I like it. 3.5 Her dances were not robotic and they progressed with each one. 4. She at least acted like she enjoyed it and said she liked how I touched her. 5. When I told her I only had time for one more song, she did everything in her power to make sure I came. I did. 6. Before I left she took my phone and added her digits. That, ladies, is how a successful interview is conducted. Of course it all started when she passed the eye test. There was no count cheating involved and she got a good tip. Both parties left happy and ready for round two.

My orchestra teacher was definitely MILF material. Yummy.

Exactly why I never wanted to be famous.

I ended up grabbing my clothes and running shirtless out of a hotel room in the Chicago area one time. The girl started yelling "illegal activity" into her cell phone. Fortunately I paid cash for the room and gave a fake name. Yes I was planning in advance since I didn't know what to expect. I did a drive by 5 minutes after leaving. Lets just say there was a lot of activity and lights at the hotel at that time. That was the last time I tried an escort. I'll stick to strippers. Thank you very much.

IME your first mistake is going ot Deja Vu for extras. I've been to three: Flint, Ypsilanti and Saginaw, MI. Not so much for extras. I have also been to Tropical Lei in LA. That's a better bet.

Strippers create fantasies. Wives tell us the truth.

lol

I like curvy women because it enhances their female-ness. But for me it's not just in the breasts. It's in the hips, etc. But then I'm not into super thin women. I'm into the hourglass. Breasts are a big part of that.

Even after feeling on hundreds of hotties I still remember the smoothest skin I ever felt. No surprise that the girl was Ms. Saginaw MI Deja Vu for 3 or 4 years running. And that's a non extras club with fresh, new and young college girls every semester.

"have had success with providers by suggesting a "meet and greet" at a public setting" - Otto Like a strip club. It's the only difference I see between escorts and strippers that do extras.

Take 69 north to 94 and head east to detroit.

GMD - now that wouldn't be very good advertisement would it?

God I miss Detroit. Oh well, next stop...Dallas!

I've only cum a few times from lap dances. Usually the girls view it as a compliment. Especially if you had dances from another girl and didn't come earlier in the evening. Then it becomes like bragging rights. I've had one girl request that I let her know if I was going to cum. Ever since then I've always told the girls. I can see their point and don't want to mess up future relations with a girl that can/will make me cum.

About 17 years ago, when John's Hot Spot used to be called Leggs, it used to be a fairly lively club. Packed every night, but most of the dancers were still 6's. A couple might get into the 7's, but more likely to be 4's and 5's. I was sitting in one of the bench booths with my back to the bar. She slid into the seat next to me so quickly and quietly that my first memory of her was firm perky breast on the back of my arm. I turned to look at her and my jaw must have dropped because she let out a little laugh. Even that was hot. She was about 5'8" with a graceful (how often do you say that about strippers) and lithe frame. Perfect natural B breasts (I normally prefer C's). She had real red hair; long and with tight curls. Green eyes that perfectly complimented her red hair. She was only lightly freckled, just to the point of being cute. I was smitten. She knew it instantly. I took her up to VIP and she gave me the best dances I've ever had (even better than those with extras, even though hers did not). She knew how to use her entire body. She was just amazingly sexy. I was having a blast. I don't think she gave too many dances like she gave me because the bouncer came back and basically one night and told her to tone it down a notch (even in MI). She's still my ATF, and I haven't seen her since that summer. Good thing. Took me for every dollar I could spare. she owned me from the time I walked in the door when she worked. If she wasn't there that night I left. Best three months of clubbing I've ever had.

Happens all the time. Some women know what clothes enhance their physique, some don't. Same with men. There are also girls that attract other men that you may find repulsive. Just move on to somebody that doesn't offend your fashion sensibilities. If she asks you if you like her outfit, just tell her you prefer her naked!

FAVs = frequently accessed vaginas

I believe there are multiple factors involved. 1. Are there a lot of attractive girls at the club or is she the only one in constant demand? the more supply, the hotter the dances will be. 2. Has she gotten comfortable with you? A hot girl might perform better for guys she is attracted to, and or has developed some conversational chemistry. Of course a lot of hot dancers only give you the "wanna dance?" chance to get their attention. A couple have been good. A lot depends on their confidence/experience level. 3. How much money does she think she stands to make from you? A hot babe isn't going to work as hard for $10/dance as she does for $30/dance. This also factors in how busy the club is. 4. Is she feeling money pressured at the time. Is her rent due? Is she working hard to get more dances/customer? Almost any offer for OTC I've gotten has been accompanied by a story of needing money for a loser boyfriend, etc. 5. Do you groom yourself well? No dancer wants to get close to a smelly warthog that hasn't showered or brushed his teeth in a week any more than we want that not so fresh pussy smell (at least before a dance!). Other factors may include wearing dress pants instead of jeans (less burn, etc.). 6. How sober/high is the dancer? Fortunately the hottest dancer I've ever seen/met also delivered the most fun I've ever had with clothes on and off. Every dance she did was unique, and usually more aggressive than the previous one. But there was at least some chemistry/money involved. I never dated her even though she made several advances herself. Probably the only time I resented my rule about not dating dancers. She at least made me feel the chemistry was real. She knew how to engage the mind and body. I'm getting hot just thinking about her and that was fifteen years ago.

It's really all about what works with all women. Be honest, polite, respectful, have good hygiene (what a lot of guys mistake for good looks) and give intimacy (talk to her) while making yourself fun to be around. The best way to break the ice is to reveal something about yourself that you find funny. Chances are she will, too. Once you have her laughing you have her relaxed. Your chances go up exponentially as you are no longer just a stiff(y).

I was about to go to a club once when I saw a bunch of police cars outside. I kept on driving by that night. The next day I went in and asked my current fav what happened. She told me that a guy was caught paying with counterfeit money. The guy actually went back to the same club the next day and that's when the cops were called in.

Sorry Jess. I didn't mean to offend you. I wasn't trying to say you are a bad stripper. I was just a bit mystified by my experience at the Vu and the attitude you present yourself with here just seems to personify the Vu (elitist). From my observations there are two different ways to make really good money as a stripper (i.e. - get me to spend money). Providing extras, which you profess not to do, or being really good at creating a fantasy (which you cite as your intentions). I think you are right, in that you don't have to provide FS in order to be erotic. Some times I actually prefer the usually hotter dancers that don't provide FS. I was merely trying to suggest a way to enhance the fantasy that you are creating. The mind game isn't all in the VIP. Good luck in your future endeavors. Be they as a dancer or IT specialist.

Hey jessxxbby. Im not sure of your motive for posting here. Obviously you're not a marketing major. There are more polite ways of saying "no" that will not offend potential customers, as there are quite a few on this board. I, too, have been to the Ypsi Vu. The first time was enjoyable enough that I returned when in the mood for the prettier girls that give a "fantasy," as you call it. The second time I was at your club, I thought the club was high pressure. I was approached by every girl after her stage set and asked for a dance. Nobody bothered to sit down and talk to me. That's the first criterion I use to determine whether or not to get a dance with a girl. I prefer to sit and chat for a while first. As there were one or two other custys in the club at the time, it was a buyers market. A smart girl would have realized she could talk to a potential customer or chat with other dancers. All of the girls stood around and talked amongst themselves. That makes the girls seem stuckup and standoffish. That is not an ideal mood setter for a "fantasy provider." Too bad, I had $300 in my pocket. I also don't pressume I can touch a girl. I allow a girl to set rules and initiate contact. It may determine how many dances I get. But I know that a girl can be erotic and fun without allowing me to touch her. Those girls usually know how to establish a connection prior to venturing to the VIP. It usually requires a bit of conversation however. FYI, one of the girls standing around chatting with the other girls rather than customers goes by the stage name Hailey. I guess you missed a chance at some money taht nobody seemed to want. Just a thought.