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14 years ago
MikeW / CTQ: I like both your ideas, the only downside is, I wouldn't be surprised if "Dad" has a gun.. bustin in like that is too ballsie not to have a weapon. I'm guessin' any resistance probably would've been met with somethin' worse than losin' your money!
RickDugan: Yowza! I LIKE that new profile pic of yours! Very nice taste! (feel free to PM any info about her or where you found that pic - or post it here, if you don't mind the off topic posting)
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14 years ago
Mistake #1... paid in advance
Mistake #2... did not meet at HIS hotel
Mistake #2.5. not suspicious of dancer having a hotel room...
As has been stated in other discussions, never meet her at HER place... too many ways something can go wrong. (setup, boy friend/husband) Always meet somewhere on YOUR terms, preferably a neutral, safe area.
BigJason: I don't know how much you paid up-fron, but thankfully you weren't jumped / rolled, or worse. It's an expensive lesson, but at least you are okay.
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14 years ago
Exactly, Sinclair!
I think there are HIV infected people out there that are so bitter they WANT to infect as many as they can.
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14 years ago
It was about two years ago that a local strip club was shutdown because of known prostitution going on. The kicker was, one of the dancers knew she was HIV positive and gave FS at the club.
http://www.fox28.com/global/story.asp?s=10268617
http://stdcarriers.com/registry/bio/699-melissa-goodman-hivandaids.aspx
That place was such a dive I only visited it once about 6 years ago, and never so much as tipped a dancer there.
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14 years ago
I have VERY high standards... or maybe that should be stated as having very specific tastes.
I like slim girls (probably many would call too skinny), with long, straight silky hair. Pretty face - or at least cute. And preferably early- to mid- 20s. To me, hair and face are the first things that catch my attention. Really pretty face and nice hair can make up for a lot of things... but cannot overcome fat!
For instance, Kim Kardashian fat?! No! But, I WOULD term her as being thick - too thick for my preference. She has a very pretty face and nearly perfect hair... so, yeah, I'd hit that in a heart beat.
Nasty, natty-looking, frizzy or even slightly greasy hair? Deal breaker! I don't care if she has the most perfect body and a smokin' hot face... no thanks!
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14 years ago
I'd say 99% of the time (maybe higher) it's plain ol SS. UNLESS she's telling the truth, in which case she is choosing not to have sex.
We all know that with all of the guys they are exposed to, they could say the word and do the deed with any of their choosing.
I do know that a lot of these girls are somewhat jaded when it comes to guys. They know that sex is all that most guys want. They are mistreated, disrespected and unappreciated. Consequently, maybe their interest in guys has diminished.
I think the line - whether SS or truth - plays right into the guys fantasy. I know I'm one of those guys, when I hear that line, the first thing I think is, "hmmm...if I can get this horny girl really hot, maybe she will let me fuck her!"
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14 years ago
I've never found anything in the city - at least not where touching was allowed. If going to Chicago, I hit IS on the way there and on the way back.
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14 years ago
GMD:
yeah, that's a concern too. The airline ticket will be non-refundable. I haven't priced it yet, but am assuming it's going to be in the $600-$700 range. As I've thought through this... I was planning on getting the ticket (actually it will be an E ticket most likely) and giving it to her. It will be up to her to decide. BEFORE I purchase, we will have one detailed discussion about tickets and how once they are bought, the money is gone, etc.
I didn't mention the cost, 'cause I don't expect there to be any. SHE is the one that asked that money not be part of her and I. SHE is the one that didn't want to see me in the club any more. Soo... the way I see it.. I pay for the airline ticket, hotel, meals. That will have to be made clear, to make sure she isn't thinking differently.
Farmerat:
Good suggestion, though I'd be afraid what the bill might be for unlimited shopping. Maybe instead, I get a "gift card" and load it with a shopping allowance for the week, to be spent at her discretion.
Dudester:
It'll be five days / five nights (no choice), but I see what you are saying. You never "know" someone until you've lived with them and had to put up with annoying habits. Not that I expect this goddess to have any, and I don't think >>I<< do, but it could be a good test to see how we get along! Also, traveling with someone is a good test.. some people (myself included) get stressed making flight connections, etc.
Very interesting and entertaining article, btw.. good job!
Jackoff:
Yes, I've been OTC with this girl, though only three times so far. At least in those three sessions, we get along well, and there never seems to be any awkward silent moments.
ddrek:
I've flown out of SBN many times, and also have envisioned the family goodbye and potential uncomfortable glances between myself and Miss OTC. I've already decided there's no way an SBN departure will work. I think I will plan to fly out of Indy, which will be cheaper, and should work out better all around. I don't think she's even flown before, so I wouldn't want to risk her trying to navigate checkins and fly by herself.
I will have one or two more OTC sessions with her before I purchase the tickets, so we will have a lot more talking before finalizing. As good as the idea sounds, I'm thinking I might be better off solo. Like I said earlier, the destination city is well known for it's SCs - and I've had some very successful visits in the past.
Obviously there's still a lot to ponder... but thanks for everyone's insight!!!
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14 years ago
It doesn't matter to me which shift I visit. It all depends on when the girls that I want to see are working.
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14 years ago
Nope... feet don't do anything for me. I do give foot rubs to my dancer friends, but its for THEIR enjoyment and relaxation. They are on their feet and in tight, uncomfortable shoes and really appreciate when they receive a foot rub.
And speaking of feet. That is one of the "treats" that I sometimes give my OTC girls. I schedule a pedicure for two.. it's a nice relaxing way to reward them once in a awhile, and is surprisingly intimate to chat during the procedure.
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14 years ago
I'm still having a hard time that Charlie Sheen has to pay for pussy! Well... I can see where NOW he will have to pay for it, but I mean before everyone learned that he was a head case. (Damn, talkin' about throwin' away a great life and lifestyle!!)
As for porn stars that I would pay to have sex with...
Keri Sable
Tiffany Taylor
Jesse Jane
Jenna Haze
Krystal Steal
Crystal Ray
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14 years ago
Nothing against those on the board that wear them (I know there are quite a few), but I would never wear shorts in a club.
I wear dress pants (they are 60% polyester / 40% cotton) and are smooth, soft and look nice. Almost always black, too!
NOTE: My "club pants" are a size bigger at the waist, which allows for easy access if the opportunity arises. It also allows for additional room for The Associate to spread out.
I DO wear a belt, but the buckle has no sharp edges.
COMMANDO! A must!
When it comes down to "action time", either before dances start ITC, or more interesting activities OTC, the keys come out of the pocket, my cell phone and holster come off, my belt comes off ... and I am ready!
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14 years ago
That's a HUGE fear of mine, though I usually don't think about it too much. I wonder how likley customers are to arrest when a club is raided. Usually it's the dancers and management...
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14 years ago
I think it's true with most guys that there is one look / type that pushes all of the right buttons. Though my favs have not looked that similar, they all share the same thin body, long silky hair (if not long hair, at least very silky) and cute / pretty face.
One of my dancers years ago said something that was really quite thought provoking. I'd been OTCing with my ATF and another fav from the same club. When the fav found out about my ATF, she said "she's my competition at the club." It struck me because I thought ALL of the girls were her competition, but she enlightened me, saying that they were similar that the same guys that liked my ATF also liked her.
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14 years ago
I find it kind'a hilarious that even a huge TV (and film) star, and a dude makin' hundreds of millions has to pay for his pussy!
The dumbass has shot himself in the foot, though, and pretty soon he won't have any money... I gotta think the other stars on the show are bigtime pissed off at him. (he shot THEM in the foot, too)
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14 years ago
Depends on what happens next, I guess. I have been told this MANY times, mainly because I usually don't press their rules and I'm not all grabby hands, etc.
My curr fav, from the beginning, in addition to telling me that I didn't belong in the club because I was "different", she started telling me that "she got nervous" when she danced for me, because she was always too concerned that I was enjoying myself. She didn't want me to watch her on stage 'cause I made her too nervous.
Finally, on my third visit in the club to see her, she asked that I didn't come back to the club any more. She said we should meet outside the club, and she didn't want money to be part of "this". Since then, we have not been in the club together... strictly OTC.
It's a strange thing... she won't take money.. we have a good time...
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14 years ago
I've heard this quite a few times, too... and although it is usually SS, I've experienced it when it has been true.
The most recent was when my curr fav was really gettin' into our dance. She had earlier confided in me that "it had been months" (she had gone through a divirce), and she was feelin' extra horny. She is typically a very sensual dancer and doesn't normally grind - it's more of a slow, total body to body caress (hard to explain but VERY enjoyable). She started holding me tighter and breathin' in my ear... then her pace picked up. She just lost control and rythmically ground her pussy on me... when the song ended, she didn't stop - just continued... became more urgent... "things" were hitting all the right spots mutually until she shuddered for a half-song. We cuddled for the rest of the song, then she jokingly blamed me for it (she said, "look what you made me do, naughty boy!", and then told she had to go change. I didn't want her to leave and held her arm, but she said "no REALLY..." as she stood. My leg was soaking from crotch to knee.. I almost thought I'd been the one making the mess. It wasn't sweat, I guarantee!
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14 years ago
I think the key is... #2 was better looking! I think #1 is just SOL... you snooze (or take a piss in this case) you lose!
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14 years ago
I think I'm in the minority here. I think I might have to change my nickname to Marathon Man, 'cause when I go to a club, I am there a while. I don't want to feel rushed, and if I'm enjoying myself, I want to prolong that as long as possible.
There is nothing near home, so I am either driving 1.5 hrs (Kokomo), or 3 hrs (Indy), depending on my OTC plans. I get a hotel for the night (here lately in the 'Mo). IF I venture into the club, I will be there a MINIMUM of 4 or 5 hours... unless I have OTC arrangements, what else am I going to do? Sit in the hotel? I don't think so!
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14 years ago
wow.. seeing some of the old gang reappearing... first Book Guy, now Minnow... welcome back!
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14 years ago
What we won't do for 20something chicks! It is worth it and I will continue doing it (and them!).
Heck, I've even tossed around the idea of getting a tat or two, 'cause these girls are all into THAT, too. (nahh... I will draw the line there.. ain't gettin' no fickin' tat!!!)
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14 years ago
Always! I put one in each of my back pockets, every time I hit the club, or am OTCing.
SuperDude.. sorry to hear about that! THAT is one of my BIGGEST fears and where I am most cautious. I COUNT them to make sure each and every one of them is accounted for, before returning home. So far, the worst I've been caught with was a "free entry" card for a club in Canada that I forgot was in my shirt pocket. (this was before I pefected my rituals and precautions) DAMN, I didn't live THAT one down for YEARS! I can imagine what a condom discovery would be like.. err.. it'd be same as SD experienced, no doubt.
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14 years ago
First of all, it's not all that difficult to shave those areas. You just gotta be careful! Prop a leg up on the tub wall, and most areas are pretty accessible. The first time is the hardest. Once you've "blazed the path", its just a matter of a steady hand.
Also, start with a beard trimmer to cut the hair down, THEN shave.
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14 years ago
Even though it's a generalization, I tend to think from experience that it IS true. I smokin' hot girl will more frequently be a bitch, than a girl with a sparkling personality. Like was previously stated, these hot girls have learned from very early in life that they don't have to treat people nicely in order to have both men AND women wanting to be around them.
On the other hand, those less fortunate in the looks department tend to be nicer because in order to make friends, they realize that they must respect people and behave like a friend.
My curr fav is another former "ugly duckling" (according to her, but I'm sure she's always been pretty). She says she was a nobody in HS, and always very plain. When OTC, she still "plays that part" by not wearing makeup (still beautiful in my opinion), baggy sweatshirts, glasses, etc.
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14 years ago
It's not so much the feeling you get... it's the view! I'm like RogerGreen (and Kobe Bryant, if you remember). That's "my thing", he said. To me, cummin' on a pretty girl's face is a HUGE turn on. (and a bonus if it gets in her hair, but I'd suspect most girls get pissed if you do that - especially without asking first)
With all of that said, I've NEVER had that opportunity in a club and chances seem slim since it involves making a mess that'd be too obvious and difficult to clean. (I've never been to clubs in the areas mentioned above)
OTC is the only option, and I've only asked a few for this "special treatment", with just one taker. (guess I got a lot to learn)