OTC Trip?

You should probably be asking her some of those questions. However, some of the others seem pretty obvious to me. If you prearrange the "complete strangers" facade with her beforehand, and agree to keep it up until the plane lifts off, I don't think she'd see it as a mood killer. She probably doesn't want to confront your family any more than you do. You know her and your family best, though.

Then too, what do you do if you've spent all the money, and she just doesn't show up at the airport?

As for your valuables, if you can, use a hotel with safes in the room. That might be a deal killer if you don't handle it right, of course. The rental is a no-brainer; it's likely to be company paid if this is a business trip, so you can always use that as a reason. Plus, most rental agreements have all authorized drivers' names on them, so think about who might see that. As well, insurance, either yours or the rental company's, won't pay for accidents had by unauthorized drivers.

You didn't mention one important thing, which means you didn't think about it, or it doesn't matter. The cost. If you're paying her way, I'd have to think she's going to want a level of remuneration consonant with what she'd expect to be making at work over the same period. Maybe a little less, because it's guaranteed, but also maybe a little more, because it's exclusive. Even if she's treating it as a vacation, and paying her own way, she's gonna want something for the time she's spending with you.

I've thought about taking girls on short trips as well, but these types of things have kept me from actively pursuing it.

The last question in your post made me chortle. When I was in business I was most often in bush camps or places like Zama Lake, Hay River, Fort Nelson, High Level, Rainbow Lake, Fort Simpson, and assorted other dreary one-horse towns. Lovely though it would have been to have a hot dancer as a companion; no dancer would have given my offers any consideration at all.

You, obviously, are going somewhere with all the amenities. Take the girl with you. Give her a credit card to keep her happy while you are doing your business. A day of shopping on your dime? Guaranteed happy times for you every night!

First, keep the trip to three days and two nights, or less. There is truth in the adage, "After three days, fish and company stink".

Second-read my article-Trip With the Stripper tuscl.net

@ farmerart What would 2days and nights with a hot escort/stripper cost, you know, something realistic.

I have to ask - Have you been OTC with your current fav? I highly suggest you do a few times before going on a trip. Make sure all expectations (sexual and financial) on both sides are not only discussed, but agreed upon. I learned this the hard way my first time! JMHO from taking several strippers on vacations.

I know you've probably flown out of SBN to know that there isn't crap to do in the waiting area outside security. Just explain to her that you will meet up with her at the gate, that way there is no awkward moment with the family if they do come to see you off.

That will require setup so that she can check in and get her boarding pass on her own, hopefully she's traveled and checking in is not a challenge...so people just are not comfortable at airports like us well seasoned travelers are.

If you need a diversion, tell the family that you have a teleconference you need to take before the flight and get there really early and just head to the gate to wait...lol

mikeya02:

Now why on earth would you think that poor old farmerart would be able to answer that question? Well, I MAY have some info.

Standard rates in Vancouver (a very competitive town) are $1000-$1200 for a single all-nighter. Never done more than that in Vancouver. Dinner and drinks and whatever else are extra. But for the sex - MSOG.

Once last winter in France, I hooked up with a gorgeous Czech lady through a high end agency in Milan. Spent the weekend at my place in Saint Raphael. Cost was 3000 euro for the weekend (approx. $5000 at last year's exchange rates). Also a fee to the agency (electronic transfer but I have forgotten the amount). OUCH !! Lovely, smart (spoke 6 languages), well educated lady. Ho-hum sex - definitely not worth the cash.

Last year on one of my trips to Detroit I hooked up with a dancer I met at H8S on a previous visit. Had an absolute blast with her - Tigers game, funky restaurants she knew, drinks (and she was a superb drinking partner), two nights in a lovely bed-and-breakfast on Lake Michigan, couple of other nights of horizontal activity. She was happy with $2k and the other stuff cost me probably another $1k. A screaming bargain!! Damn, I wish her phone number still worked.

So, you see, it is not inexpensive. And, going this route means putting up the cash BEFORE the girl even enters your web unless you have some history (like I did with the Detroit lady). I must admit that I was some twitchy coughing up 3000 euro before even shaking the hand of the Czech lady. You generally do NOT bargain when you go this route either. Tried that once and the girl turned on her heel and stormed out of the hotel!

Shit! I just re-read this. I am seriously pathetic, aren't I?

GMD: yeah, that's a concern too. The airline ticket will be non-refundable. I haven't priced it yet, but am assuming it's going to be in the $600-$700 range. As I've thought through this... I was planning on getting the ticket (actually it will be an E ticket most likely) and giving it to her. It will be up to her to decide. BEFORE I purchase, we will have one detailed discussion about tickets and how once they are bought, the money is gone, etc.

I didn't mention the cost, 'cause I don't expect there to be any. SHE is the one that asked that money not be part of her and I. SHE is the one that didn't want to see me in the club any more. Soo... the way I see it.. I pay for the airline ticket, hotel, meals. That will have to be made clear, to make sure she isn't thinking differently.

Farmerat: Good suggestion, though I'd be afraid what the bill might be for unlimited shopping. Maybe instead, I get a "gift card" and load it with a shopping allowance for the week, to be spent at her discretion.

Dudester: It'll be five days / five nights (no choice), but I see what you are saying. You never "know" someone until you've lived with them and had to put up with annoying habits. Not that I expect this goddess to have any, and I don't think >>I<< do, but it could be a good test to see how we get along! Also, traveling with someone is a good test.. some people (myself included) get stressed making flight connections, etc.

Very interesting and entertaining article, btw.. good job!

Jackoff: Yes, I've been OTC with this girl, though only three times so far. At least in those three sessions, we get along well, and there never seems to be any awkward silent moments.

ddrek: I've flown out of SBN many times, and also have envisioned the family goodbye and potential uncomfortable glances between myself and Miss OTC. I've already decided there's no way an SBN departure will work. I think I will plan to fly out of Indy, which will be cheaper, and should work out better all around. I don't think she's even flown before, so I wouldn't want to risk her trying to navigate checkins and fly by herself.

I will have one or two more OTC sessions with her before I purchase the tickets, so we will have a lot more talking before finalizing. As good as the idea sounds, I'm thinking I might be better off solo. Like I said earlier, the destination city is well known for it's SCs - and I've had some very successful visits in the past.

Obviously there's still a lot to ponder... but thanks for everyone's insight!!!

Upgrade to first class and buy her a first class ticket.(Make sure it's refundable, if yu can. She might not show.) You can meet at the gate after passing through security. She will expect to be paid for going with you in addition to you picking up the tab for everything. Get her a pre-paid VISA or MasterCard debit card from a drug store with at least $1k on the card. She'll need it for shopping and incidentals while you are working. Get it clear that she cannot call her friends from the hotel room or watch porn on cable. She's to use her cell phone. If necessary get her an off the shelf prepaid cell phone, You don't want any of her calls on your cell phone or hotel bills. When she's alone she will want to call her friends and brag about where she is and what she's doing. You don't want her answering the phone in the hotel room or charging anything to the room. That's why the pre-paid debit card. No photographs of any kind; thus no camera phone. If you let her use the car, try and pay the valet charges and remove them from the bill. Kind of hard to explain a car going in and out during the day while you are at a meeting. Pray she's a careful driver. No momentos left in your luggage "to remember our time together." They fall out in front of the wife when you are unpacking. Get your laundry done by the hotel before you come home. Wives believe they can smell something. If asked, tell the wife that the company was paying for it so you sent everthing out before you came home. Get a small canvas tote bag for $1.00. Use that to bring in you booze, avoiding hotel prices and her urge to order a bottle of bubbly charged to room service. Avoid college or Army buddies who might live in this town. Watch out when the guys you are working with want to it a club and you've got a hottie back in the room. Do you tell her to wait, indefinately, have her meet you at a stripclub with co-workers or find a graceful way to decline and get back to your room and OTC. Send the wife flowers while you're away.

OOPS. Most of this was covered while I was typing. Sorry.

DougS, the cost of the airline ticket is just a risk that you'll have to take.

In terms of valuables, the best option is simply not to travel with many. Your cash and credit cards will normally be on you, so you really only need to store clothes in the room during the day.

With respect to the rental car, I don't know. It is going to be tough to not let her use it at all while you are working and you don't want to come off as an asshole. Best bet is to simply have her name added as a driver when you get to the rental counter and to pay for the insurance option on the car.

farmerart "Shit! I just re-read this. I am seriously pathetic, aren't I?"

I don't even think about it anymore, as I find it way cheaper than my 2 x-wives were.

Such an advanced topic... no way to jump into the discussion for me here...

My CF has continued to ask about our up coming trip. She's excited about it, with no signs of backing out. Unfortunately, I found out Friday that the class I'd planned to take (and the reason for the business trip) only has 1 student signed up.. (I would be number 2... err.. the second student [grin]) It typically takes at least 12, in order for them not to cancel the class, so it's doubtful that it will happen.

I will have to break the news to Miss CF soon. Now I'm thinking about maybe scheduling a quick three day trip or something, without an actual business alibi (and would mean my work won't be paying for MY share)... nahh... I better talk myself out of THAT one... that's just gettin' too risky with FAR too many ways that can backfire on me...