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16 years ago
I just have to say that it's pretty clever for a dancer to invent a story that she's a "lesbian", then use that context to set up the comment "I need dick", absolutely assuring that her customer is going to get very interested in the idea of "reforming" her.
$$$
New twist on an old game, though.
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16 years ago
There used to be a girl at Tattletales in Atlanta who had two vaginas... they sort of "branched out" from one opening, though, so it was a purely internal thing.
So it IS possible!
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16 years ago
You know, it never occurs to me to clap. I guess I seldom really watch a stage show, though.
If I go to stage to tip a girl I know, sometimes I do a little "golf clap" but that's basically me just being silly. I've probably never clapped audibly for a dancer, ever.
Well, unless smacking her ass counts as "clapping"? >.>
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16 years ago
Honestly I feel sorry for an aging stripper, and pity pretty much kills any attraction I have.
I know it's shallow, but I go for the tight, young hotties.
18-21 sounds about right!
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16 years ago
I've had some very nice OTCs with features - they basically get bored on the circuit, just surrounded by their roadies and manager, and often are up for some kind of fun. Sometimes I've paid, sometimes not.
Basically I couldn't care less about 95% of features (actually most of them are pretty rough, and I can't stand fake tits which excludes 95% of them from my viewport) but I've seen a few cool ones, and I'll tip nicely on stage, then when they finish doing the photo ops afterwards I'll approach and chat them up. Almost all of them are cordial, desperate for some interesting convo, and in many cases up for at least a bite to eat. From there, it's a matter of either charm or money...
I'm kicking myself for missing Katsumi at the PP a week or two ago - total slut, I'm sure that would have been a nice OTC :(
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16 years ago
Well, the "hard" feel of fake tits is scar tissue... it's internal scarring, but you still feel it. A better quality boob job, recovered from correctly, will feel less "hard".
That said, fake tits are never going to feel "soft".
If you've ever felt the tits of an 18-19 yo, they are very firm but aren't "hard"... a very good boob job *might* sort of feel like that, but that's about as good as it gets.
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16 years ago
I've been to clubs with other girls (usually a stripper from another club, a fuck buddy, or some other kind of wild chick) and I have to say, it's a blast. Nothing gets a stripper working like showing off for another woman... it's a competition thing, maybe.
I have no problem with couples in clubs!
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16 years ago
My biggest disappointments have usually involved a dancer ruining her otherwise perfect body in some way - bad boob jobs are the most common problem. Generally, if a regular girl of mine gets an augmentation, I'm finished with her.
There was one very slender, elegant (yet nasty! perfect combo) dancer I knew who had the sexiest lower back (that arch where the back and ass meet gets me every time) got a huge "hoe tag" tattoo there, totally interrupting her lines and screaming "trailer park" to boot. Infuriating. I still fucked her from behind, but it just wasn't the same!
Years ago there was this PERFECT tiny laotian doll who danced at Cheetah in Atlanta, with firm A-cups and flawless cocoa nipples. So, naturally, she got a couple of C-cup bolt ons with nice scars underneath and hard as rocks. Yum. Yeah, never paid her another dime.
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16 years ago
Two things:
(i) easy celebrity
(ii) the Ho-ification of America
I am not at all surprised!
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16 years ago
Okay, here is how a *real* dancer boyfriend would react:
Dancer: "Fuckin' manager fired me today"
Boyfriend: "Fuckin' asshole! Why?"
Dancer: "Cause, he caught me fuckin' in VIP!"
Boyfriend: "Baby, I done tole you to be more careful... you need to get them guys to springs for a mo-tel. Fuckin' cheap-ass guys!"
Girlfriend: "I'm so sorry, baby"
Boyfriend: *strikes Dancer* "Bitch! how'm I supposed to pay for my fuckin' truck now! You better have some good pussy for craigslist, bitch!"
Dancer: *cried*
Boyfriend: "I'm sorry baby, you know I need that truck!"
Dancer: "I love you baby, I'll make it right, I promise!"
...
If you feel comfortable playing the role of Boyfriend, by all means have at it! Otherwise, probably best not to get too wrapped up in the Stripper Dating scene.
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16 years ago
I enjoy dancers too - and escorts, and others in the fringe of sex-work. Generally, they *are* fucked-up sluts, but I LIKE that about them.
Now, when I hear people saying "we need to de-stigmatize the sex industry" I HAVE to ask "okay, fine... now, be honest, would you mind it, just a little, if your daughter were a stripper or escort?" Now, there probably ARE some people who can honestly say "you know what, it wouldn't bother me in the slightest. As long as she's happy." And to those people I say, wow, okay, that's cool.
I strongly suspect, however, that 99% of people who unthinkingly call for de-stigmatization or the like would be PLENTY bothered if it were their little girl grinding on some 50 year old guy's lap, or sucking his dick in VIP. Fact it, almost all of us regard "adult" work as very low-status, or even bottom-rung.
Which doesn't mean we can't *genuinely* enjoy their company. I have a friend I'm hanging out with now who's a prostitute (oops, I mean "provider") - first time I saw her was as a customer, but we hit it off and have become fuck buddies. She's a blazingly hot young Brazilian chick, kinda smart, very cool, a great spinner fuck. I've advised her on how to market herself, and I see her 2-3 times a week for 2-3 hours, a mix of going out for coffee or lunch, chatting, and fucking. I love spending time with her... on the other hand, if an art director friend of mine is visiting from NY and wants to meet for drinks at Krog wine bar, I am NOT taking this chick along to meet the friends. Totally different world which she is, frankly, beneath. Then again, I wouldn't take my lawn guys along either.
You can hang out with and even respect low-status people who provide services for you - even become their friend. But at the end of the day those class realities come into play. That's America, at least.
That said, I DO think there are guys here who have a kind of love-hate relationship with dancers, but I think it's the minority. Paring it down to basics: guys with money to spend have been fucking pretty young ladies of negotiable virtue since the dawn of time, and those ladies have always been looked down on by society. And it's never going to change.
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16 years ago
Actually, this brings to mind a cautionary tale.
A few years ago, I knew a dancer at Cheetah in Atlanta through a friend (another dancer.) The Cheetah girl (they actually call themselves that) and I had one of those interesting friendships where we had a kind of attraction - she was very hot - but somehow it just wasn't quite sexual. So we'd hang out, be sort of affectionate but not really, I'd hang out at her house sometimes, and she at mine, but we never fucked - sort of like the ex-girlfriend that you're cool with now.
Anyway, one of our little pleasures together was totally raw conversation - I felt I could tell her anything, and she could tell me; so, it wasn't unusual to talk to each other about any fuck adventures we'd had lately.
Now, her thing was that she LOVED cum - she was a swallower, and she didn't like to use condoms for vaginal or anal sex either(she liked the guys to scoop it out of her so she could lick it off his fingers, that kind of thing.) She was also a prolific slut, and would fuck her customers if they were big spenders (always OTC... ITC is sort of challenging in the Cheetah!)
So one day she bragged about the previous day - she had fucked five men in succession - separate events, so the guys didn't realize they were just links in her chain. She was laughing because she'd used no protection at all, and couldn't believe that, for example, guy number four was licking the remains of three other guys' loads out of her pussy. I was pretty horrified (I knew one of the guys - and no, I never mentioned it to him, what's the point?) but of course it was funny in kind of a ghastly way. One feels for the fifth guy. She was just tickled that she had secretly fucked these guys over (she had major sexual power issues) and was laughing like crazy telling the story. Ick.
I'll say this - if you ARE going to DATY a stripper, be sure it's at the beginning of her shift. And hope she doesn't have some kink where she gets off on loading her pussy up before work. Cause you just NEVER know.
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16 years ago
Guy: "Wow, a bunch of your wetness just rolled out onto my tongue"
Dancer: "Uhhh... yeah, that's cause you have me so turned on, baby"
Guy: "Anything for you, babe!"
...
Yeah... I'll pass, thanks.
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16 years ago
Oh, and before you lament the poor girl, bear in mind that if it weren't for girls being messed up drug users and the like - there'd be precious little available in the way of high-mileage, ITC/OTC dancers available for your pleasure.
It's the bright side of a dark cloud.
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16 years ago
Why does everyone assume it's the job that messes the dancer up.
Really, if you think about it, a girl has to be pretty fucked up from the get-go to seek out a job where she dances completely nude for strange men, up to and including grinding her pussy on their laps.
While dancing may have exacerbated her problems, I can promise she'd have been a messed up drug user anyway. In fact - and this may sound surprising - the VAST majority of fucked-up, drug using sluts with a history of abusive boyfriends in fact are NOT dancers... they are receptionists, cashiers, waitresses at Chilis, maybe even sometimes attorneys and professors.
Stripping doesn't create "bad girls" - it's the other way around!
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16 years ago
Yeah, sober strippers are kind of pointless ;)
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16 years ago
I'll agree. Compliments cost nothing, and feel good to give and receive.
I do try to find something less obvious to compliment though... although I must say complimenting a woman's eyes never fails!
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16 years ago
Usually by the time a dancer becomes an ATF, I'm ready for something new.
So not very long - couple of months maybe?
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16 years ago
I'm always amused that all the Jades, Chinas and Asias are black...
My most recent strippers were Magic (with a "c"!), Sweetie, Cinnamon, Destiny, Jamaica, Aspin, China and Treasure. Well, that come to mind, anyway. All pretty strippery.
I haven't noticed the "normal name" trend, though I tend to go to ethnic clubs, that might be why.
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16 years ago
I always try to sit away from the speakers in clubs.
Offhand I can't recall a club which had systematically too-loud music; usually it's isolated occasions, or a DJ who simply has it cranked up too high. I have recommended turning down the music in clubs and had them comply.
So no, I've never written off a club for volume... moving seats usually fixes it.
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16 years ago
You CAN use an adjective as a noun - it's called a "substantive". In a very technical sense, it isn't a noun but rather an adjective modifying an *implied* but absent noun, but grammatically the adjective acts as a noun in the structure of the sentence.
"Out with the old, in with the new" is the classic example of how substantives are used, in this case the adjective forms "old" and "new".
Just sayin'!
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16 years ago
Actually 9 years ago "extras" weren't nearly the club standard like they are today; I can certainly see a case for a dancer being surprised/upset by such a thing in the late 90s.
Now, I'm genuinely surprised if a girl won't fuck/suck in ViP - it would be like a stripper refusing to strip a decade ago.
The ho-ification of America!
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16 years ago
Actually way back when they first opened Mardi Gras in Atlanta, there was an outdoor swimming pool with a fence around it where you could get dances and, I guess, swim ;)
Didn't last too long, though.
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