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6 years ago
@shadowcat: "The dancers loved my costume. So it was worth wearing one."
What was your costume? What were some of the better dancer / female employee costumes?
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6 years ago
-->"I frequently see you make paragraphs about this and you speak too much in absolutes. Every stripper only cares about money and nothing else, no act of kindness or any amount of charm will change that."
OK, but it'd still be 98%+ of all strippers I've met. I suppose there are some outliers.
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6 years ago
--->"They'll fall short once again. Go Giants!!! 3 time champs of this decade!!"
Haha Dogers. Go Giants!! (And Red Sox!!)
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6 years ago
Twix and snickers are solid. And most Euro chocolate
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6 years ago
@OP: "Do any of you have a OTC relationship with your stripper that doesnt involve sex?"
There was a thread on a topic like this a while ago. User Rickberge in that thread said, "Being a friend with a stripper that you aint fucking is the ultimate form of simpology." I thought that line was funny, and I admit I had to look up the term simpology to make sure it meant what I thought it meant. Dirk Diggler's line in this thread is pretty close: "Yes, there are PLs that have OTC relations with strippers/SBs without sex. They're called fools..." Again, funny and true. Friends with benefits? - fun. Friends without benefits? - overall waste of time for the PL thinking that friends without benefits OTC will turn into friends with benefits.
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6 years ago
^ https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php5?id=59789
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6 years ago
SebastainCobb and John_Longwood are both someone’s troll aliases
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6 years ago
-->"No woman wants to use abortion as a method of birth control, they do it as a last ditch effort."
^This generalization is untrue. I know multiple women who have had 4 to 6 abortions. did not use actual birth control to prevent the unwanted pregnancy is beyond me. Abortion is indeed and unfortunately used as a birth control method.
The CDC compiles abortion statistics. Most recent statistics released in 2017 were from year 2014. States are not legally required to report to CDC, so these statistics could be low. Per the CDC: "In 2014, 652,639 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas. The abortion rate for 2014 was 12.1 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years, and the abortion ratio was 186 abortions per 1,000 live births." At first glance to me, these numbers suggest a high rate of abortions for convenience as a birth control method, though I haven't reviewed the reports or statistics sufficiently for a conclusion on that suggestion.
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6 years ago
As for sex, very good points PD. Despite all that I still don't want my SO fucking some other dude. So terribly 19th century of me. My SO doesn't want me fucking somebody else either dangit. How terribly hypocritical and also inconvenient for me.
As for the abortion topic, the moral issues will never be resolved to the satisfaction of all thus neither will the legal issues - with the positions being so polar there's just no achievable middle ground there. Not that anyone gives a shit about my personal take on the topic but Supreme Court Justice Byron White stated it here with economy of words in his dissent in Roe v. Wade:
"At the heart of the controversy in these cases are those recurring pregnancies that pose no danger whatsoever to the life or health of the mother but are, nevertheless, unwanted for any one or more of a variety of reasons — convenience, family planning, economics, dislike of children, the embarrassment of illegitimacy, etc. The common claim before us is that, for any one of such reasons, or for no reason at all, and without asserting or claiming any threat to life or health, any woman is entitled to an abortion at her request if she is able to find a medical advisor willing to undertake the procedure.
The Court, for the most part, sustains this position: during the period prior to the time the fetus becomes viable, the Constitution of the United States values the convenience, whim, or caprice of the putative mother more than the life or potential life of the fetus; the Constitution, therefore, guarantees the right to an abortion as against any state law or policy seeking to protect the fetus from an abortion not prompted by more compelling reasons of the mother.
With all due respect, I dissent. I find nothing in the language or history of the Constitution to support the Court's judgment. The Court simply fashions and announces a new constitutional right for pregnant mothers and, with scarcely any reason or authority for its action, invests that right with sufficient substance to override most existing state abortion statutes. The upshot is that the people and the legislatures of the 50 States are constitutionally disentitled to weigh the relative importance of the continued existence and development of the fetus, on the one hand, against a spectrum of possible impacts on the mother, on the other hand. As an exercise of raw judicial power, the Court perhaps has authority to do what it does today; but, in my view, its judgment is an improvident and extravagant exercise of the power of judicial review that the Constitution extends to this Court.
The Court apparently values the convenience of the pregnant mother more than the continued existence and development of the life or potential life that she carries. Whether or not I might agree with that marshaling of values, I can in no event join the Court's judgment because I find no constitutional warrant for imposing such an order of priorities on the people and legislatures of the States. In a sensitive area such as this, involving as it does issues over which reasonable men may easily and heatedly differ, I cannot accept the Court's exercise of its clear power of choice by interposing a constitutional barrier to state efforts to protect human life and by investing mothers and doctors with the constitutionally protected right to exterminate it. This issue, for the most part, should be left with the people and to the political processes the people have devised to govern their affairs."
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6 years ago
In Montana and Wyoming, 120 several times - miles of highway with no cops in sight.
In SoCal, 110+ several times. There's an immigration checkpoint northbound Highway 5 at north end of Camp Pendleton and no cops for approx 1.5 miles from the checkpoint to the first freeway exit in San Clemente and you can floor it with no worries (at least that's the way it was when I was younger and living in SoCal). Give it a try.
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6 years ago
^And echoing Cashman as well
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6 years ago
strippercutie,
The few strippers I've gotten to know on a personal level, I like them. They're cool, they're hot, I appreciate their qualities, and I hope the best for them in their personal lives and stripping careers and ultimate post-stripping careers. Would I like to casually date those girls and have it include sex that comes with dating - you betcha. Have I? - no.
The problem I foresee would arise with catching feelings for her (inevitable most likely, for me at least) or being her SO. The ones I've gotten to know have a mixture of flakiness, deception, and personal and family drama I couldn't deal with long term and it's too bad because I like everything else about them. And I don't profess to be no saint - my PL-hood has a deception level too.
So to echo Subraman, don't confuse reluctance to date a stripper with the stripper being "diseased" or "unlovable".
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6 years ago
@Titus23: "She'd never been able to take them anywhere good, so I brought three of them to the zoo and the aquarium. It was a lot of fun."
^Did it turn out like in the movie Sideways, when Jack took Stephanie and her child to the bowling alley and arcade and the next day she beat his head with a motorcycle helmet when she discovered he was engaged?
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6 years ago
-Reduce alcohol prices
-No VIP surveillance
-Girl who orders drink but uses code to have drink served virgin (but PL still pays alcohol price) is administered automatic, uncomfortable electric shock.
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6 years ago
@MisterWonderful: "and i took it to court. the chp cop was there. half of the tickets on the court schedule were written by this one cop. he won every case."
^Attending traffic court is excellent source of overtime compensation for CHP officers. Sometimes you get lucky and officer doesn't appear and when that happens driver wins but with the OT they're incentivized to appear.
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6 years ago
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ZamoraMFT Associate & Bikini Dancer
@flag: "Stripping, by itself without extras, is not sex work."
^This makes sense to me.
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6 years ago
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CJKent (Banned)“The more a person needs to be right, the less certain he is...”
Got similar one from username that started with melissaw.
First trolls, now spammers or hackers. Lame.
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6 years ago
Too Much Hustle:
-Jumping in my lap upon saying hello
-Sob stories (I’ve gotten both of these: school is starting and I need money to buy my kids clothes; Christmas is coming and I need to buy my kids presents. Might be true, but that’s not the best method to get more dances or healthier tip from me).
-Trying to upsell a room during 1st or 2nd dances of a 3 dance set.
-Extensive sitting and chatting during lap dances instead of dancing (granted, this might not be hustle but it achieves a never again rating)
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6 years ago
GO: Talent, Serves alcohol, Good club vibe, Good music, Reasonably high mileage in VIP chairs that translates to better mileage in rooms.
STOP GOING: Lack of talent and Low mileage
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6 years ago
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ei8ht_BallStill don't know what I'm doing here . . .
I could deal with the OP's hypothetical restrictions (fidelity and no clubbing). It's all the other stuff (baggage) that'd cause it to not work long term most likely, so no. Would she marry me? - highly unlikely - Ha! - and for her reasons not to she'd probably list baggage too, and looks.
@shailynn: "...but do I get to mold her personality?"
^College pal of mine married a girl (non-stripper) who we all said was a poor fit despite being good looking. His response was just that - hey, it'll be alright I'll be able to mold her the way I want her. Didn't work the way he planned - they're still together but it's been a rough ride.
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6 years ago
--->"What are the prices like for bare elegance? I look on their website, but couldn't find a price list."
Pricing is pretty nuts, but here it is:
-Downstairs lap dances are, I think, $41 daytime, $51 nighttime. This is insane not just because it's highest price I've ever heard, but also because the songs are 3 min average, sometimes less. I've never done one of these. The reviews all say that during the daytime there are 2 for 1's and many girls will honor the 2-4-1 price even not during announced 2-4-1 time. Even at 2-4-1 still expensive for 3 min songs.
-Upstairs lap dances, 5 for 200. Not sure if girls will give a 2-4-1 on these. If so, and based on 3 min songs, would equate to 30 min of lap dances for $200. That would be good pricing (at this club).
-Downstairs rooms 30 min for $350. This is the only thing I've done here. Still expensive, but the girls are hot.
-2 types of upstairs, bigger rooms, called Skybox and Heaven, or something like that. Prices are, I think Skybos 475 for 30 min and Heaven 800 for 1 hour. Haven't done one of these. Inquire inside for certainty on pricing.
There's lots of Eastern Europeans and some high hustle. When you sit down, you will get pounced on within 30 seconds. Heck, you probably won't even get to your seat before getting pounced on is my experience in my 2 visits.
On the upside 80% of chicks walk around fully nude.
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6 years ago
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shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
Damnit, should've actually read OPs post instead of assuming the question was coolness versus music. So coolness?:
Stones
Petty
Who
Nirvana
Audioslave
Billy Joel (duh, he likes chicks not pole smoking)
Vanilla Ice zero coolness, so Hammer by default even though he ain't cool either.
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6 years ago
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shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
Beatles>Stones
Tom Petty>Springsteen for me, but it's quite close.
The Who>Pink Floyd on volume of excellence, though I prefer the excellent songs of Pink over excellent songs of Who
Nirvana>Foo Fighters - Foo has some great work, but the album Nevermind alone merits this rating.
Audioslave>Soundgarden
Elton John>Billy Joel - on Elton's 1970-1976 work alone.
Vanilla Ice vs. MC Hammer - BARF
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6 years ago
-->"I went through couples therapy, and it was a crock. I told the therapist my stories, in detail and my ex fumed over my honesty."
^Reminds me of this couples therapy clip from the movie Old School, which I found hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWW-Tp2hkKg
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6 years ago
---> "Social media and themed events are honestly the best bet!"
--> "Video game and movie themed costumes to reel in people from every crowd."
^Unlikely to have any impact on the over 45 years old with disposable income regulars crowd is my guess.