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boboh
New Jersey
Is attraction ever a consideration for a seasoned stripper when extras are involved? I know YMMV, but even with an extras girl?
Do any of you have a OTC relationship with your stripper that doesnt involve sex?
Do any of you have a OTC relationship with your stripper that doesnt involve sex?
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An OTC relationship without sex? Are you gay?
As far as OTC relationships that don't involve sex. Not in the way that this group defines OTCs. But if a dancer is interested in someone she'll go out on a date with him and like any date it doesn't mean she'll sleep with him. Although its rare it does happen. But the times I have seen it happen, the guy wasn't exactly broke. But that wasn't the basis of it, there was interest
Yes, there are PLs that have OTC relations with strippers/SBs without sex. They're called fools...
The only thing that makes it worthwhile is fucking a hot girl - and fucking her hard.
So, I don’t see any reason to see a dancer otc without fucking her.
How many guys are really friends with their atf? Texting without meet ups seems like a total waste of time if no fucking is happening.
Time is money, right?
1) Not feeling judged by the customer for going the “extra mile”
2) smelling decent
3) Respectful—customer won’t be trying to get a mile out of an inch
4) Discretion
5) No mistrust that the customer will try to get out of paying
The money is a show of care and respect. It is after all how she pays her bills, and that is what enables her to be there.
The money is expected, but it is wrong to ever think that money should be used to persuade her to do anything she would not otherwise want to do.
Best is to select the girl you want to be waking up in the mornings with.
SJG
Baker Gurvitz Army
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Some rules-of-thumb of the game:
1) if you gotta ask about how to go about dating a stripper then you shouldn't be dating one
2) if you wanna date a hot chick then date a civvie, if you can't land a hot civvie then you shouldn't expect to land a hot stripper
butt my vanity wants tooo prevail.
Not putting down the dancers. Questioning if a guy isnt aggressive or direct will he get extras from a girl who does them? Especially if he becomes a regular. Are dancers trying to do the bare minimum to make money. If a guy isnt a creep and is respectful will she give him the same treatment as others. Or is it based on attraction.
So is she attracted to something besides the money? Observation says yes. At least that’s my surmise based on the way she greets me when we do get together.
Do I think it’s possible, even probably, that sex workers *prefer* to be attracted to their clients in same way? Absolutely.
Do I think what my ATF and I have evolved is typical? Not even close.
There was a thread on a topic like this a while ago. User Rickberge in that thread said, "Being a friend with a stripper that you aint fucking is the ultimate form of simpology." I thought that line was funny, and I admit I had to look up the term simpology to make sure it meant what I thought it meant. Dirk Diggler's line in this thread is pretty close: "Yes, there are PLs that have OTC relations with strippers/SBs without sex. They're called fools..." Again, funny and true. Friends with benefits? - fun. Friends without benefits? - overall waste of time for the PL thinking that friends without benefits OTC will turn into friends with benefits.
Every custy is a possible revenue stream - experienced dancers sorta become experts at being able to extract money from RILs and often w/o doing much for it except playing the "woe is me" sympathy-card which can often kick-in the white-knight response in many needy RILs.
An experienced dancer knows what she wants - $$$ - and if she can get it doing the least possible most experienced dancers can and will def take that route.
A strip-club is BUSINESS - not courting - not being direct usually means you give her all your $$$ and don't get shit beyond blue-balls while she goes and fuck-and-sucks her BF and takes him to a nice dinner w/ the $$$ you gave her while you're at home beating off.
This "treat her right" - "don't be demanding" - "be nice and don't be creepy" - is all loser-talk and ill-informed bullshit that does not get you anywhere in a strip-club except an empty-wallet and balls-full-of-cum - even IRL being "Mr Nice Guy" often doesn't get you shit while the assertive guy gets what he wants.
In my professional PL-opinion - actually being an asshole w/ dancers; even women in general; seems to often get you farther than being "Mr Non Aggressive".
Too many guys; particularly SCers that have not being in the game for a good # of years; are hard-wired w/ a civilian mindset that not only does not really work in the real-world but even less-so in strip-club bizarro-world.
Strop treating the strip-club like Match.com; it's not a girlfriend supermarket - a strip-club is a place where women go to seek $$$ not a relationship - in-fact many a dancer looks down on a strip-club customer and many would not want to genuinely date a strip-club customer beyond P4P and kinda customers as perverts or losers that gotta pay women for attention - it't not exactly what impresses women.
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As for my personal experience, I’ve been nearly completely correct as well as entirely wrong on different occasions. As they say, good judgment comes from experience and experience comes from bad judgment.
However, as Subraman has pointed out on this board before, attempting to portray all strippers as “perfect” actors, all solely motivated by money, and having no other motivation, falls apart with a large enough real world sample.
Statistically, I think that it’s safe to say that most strippers have money as *a* motivation, probably even a *primary* one. After all, what’s *your* motivation for going to work every day?
But to say that nothing else ever intrudes flies in the face of 40 years of my own experience.
OK, but it'd still be 98%+ of all strippers I've met. I suppose there are some outliers.
I'm neither a seasoned stripper nor an extras girl, but I cannot lie I've been tempted before and it is more tempting when it's someone I actually find very attractive.
If you’re asking if a non extras girl would do extras for a customer because he’s attractive, no I don’t think that would happen.
I’m friends with some strippers OTC, and we’re not fucking, mainly because they got boyfriends. Best believe though when they break up, I will be trying!