I think in times past I just wanted to understand the venues, as that helps a man come to understand women, seeing how they function in such a mode, different from mundane life.
And then in high heels, dressed and painted up to please. That really does it.
In future travels it will be to hook up with new women in new places, ones I will be doing photo sessions and bedding down with regularly.
But using strip forms for sexual gratification, as an extras experienced dancer told me, "That's perverted".
SJG
If the girls, bartenders, bouncers and owners are friendly to me, then I feel comfortable and will return again and again. If I get ROBed, or if I get a bad vibe I'll return only very occasionally, and then only to see a girl I have a hankerin' for at the moment. It also helps if the girls are hot and giving.
Mostly mood.
I have other hobbies that I spend more time and money on. When I’m bored and not doing those things, then I’ll consider going to a club. That’s my answer on clubbing in general. Convenience or lack thereof also plays a factor.
As to a specific club, if I’ve had about two consecutive so-so experiences, I’m probably looking to go elsewhere next time. A so-so experience is usually when the looks/personality combination of the girls seems poor. In other words, if a feel like clubbing but have no enthusiasm for a particular club, I try someplace else.
1) the talent changes and it's not to my liking
2) management changes the rules-of-engagement and mileage drops
Not the only 2 reasons but the more common ones
Finances - not necessarily that I don't have the $$$ but may not feel like spending it for X reason or I may have some guilt about having been spending too-much or gone on a bender
GO: Talent, Serves alcohol, Good club vibe, Good music, Reasonably high mileage in VIP chairs that translates to better mileage in rooms.
STOP GOING: Lack of talent and Low mileage
What makes you continue to go to a club
1. Do I like the girls enough to talk with them if my favs aren't available?
2. Is there a way to drink and buy drinks there without running up a stupidly high tab?
3. Is the vibe in the club set up where I can relax?
What makes you stop going to a club
1. Are the girls annoying? Girls, don't be annoying.
2. Is the club fleecing customers over bullshit because their product doesn't sell? If a club is charging a premium because it passes on additional dollars to the dancers then fine, otherwise cut out the bullshit with $10 beers.
3. Is management annoying? The occasional promo is fine. Promos every hour messes up the flow. Pressuring customers into buying shit they don't want or charging $30 at the door on a regular night (Players Club in Baltimore) is annoying. Birdogging the private dances is annoying. Don't be annoying, management.
I'm a volume clubber - i.e. I club a lot - thus I need value - if dances are more than $20 that def puts on the breaks which will at least slow me down if not almost stop me from going altogether
^ and for me volume also means getting w/ many different dancers b/c I like variety (vs sticking to just one fave) - thus why value-dances are important to my personal style of clubbing
Go -
I like a friendly atmosphere
Pretty low hustle girls
Fair treatment
Attentive bartender
Reasonable prices
Decent mileage
Bouncers that aren’t trying to be intimidating
Not go-
High hustle
Low quality, trashy atmosphere
Girls that can’t hold a convo
Drugs and thugs
Ridiculous pricing
Vibe of the club, some clubs you can have a few drinks and relax with some naked girls. Others that try to be too upscale aren't a good place to relax. Just depends on the feel of the club.
Forgot to state the obvious (to me) - no-go:
+ air-dances clubs (shit should be illegal)
+ "Gentleman's clubs" - where a dancer sees it as upfront that you touch her breast during the dance (I guess this falls under general mileage)
Go: Friendly, pretty girls who don’t mind being groped. Reasonable prices. Friendly staff.
Leave: Unfriendly girls, stupid price changes, bad vibes. If I have to shoot more than two people in the same month, I probably won’t be going back very often.
Keep going:
- Attractive dancers
- Low hustle, friendly/personable dancers
- Reasonable prices, consistency goes a long way towards reason too.
- Girls always on stage
- Relaxed atmosphere
Stop going:
- Unattractive dancers
- High hustle, mechanical dancers
- Unreasonable prices, or constantly fluctuating ones, or even just one well placed stupid price change
- ROB behavior from waitresses/bartenders/dancers. Things as simple as overcharging a buck for a beer will set me off.
- Empty stage
- Music too fucking loud/DJ too obnoxious. I'm not a crotchety old man about it, but some places go overboard.
- Too fucking snooty or too ghetto. Again, I'm not too big on these but they do matter.
Thank you—
Could I ask you guys also—
What is too much hustle for you?? What defines that to you??
I am meeting with my regional mgr this week. I am an influencer in my club. That’s why I’m asking.
Clip Joints are the worst!
Local LE loose, front room friendliness is not going to get anyone in trouble. But management forces action all into back rooms, paying the toll, and spoiling the choreography of interaction with the dancer.
And we know what huge chain invented this modern type of clip joint. Look for other places.
SJG
too much hustle is if the girl asks if you want a dance within 60 seconds of meeting.
too much hustle is if you want a couple of lap dances and the girl isn't into it because she wants you to do a room.
too much hustle is when a girl you're not interested in doesn't get the hint.
Too much hustle:
+ girls that don't take no for an answer and keep pestering you
+ girls that spend the majority of your dance asking you to do VIP instead of giving you a good dance
+ the "I only do VIP" girls
+ the "dances are $20 but I charge $40" - or "dances are $20 but if you wanna touch they are $30" - girls
Why would I go - if there were no extras? The question doesn’t make sense.
Why go clubbing to just look? It’s cheaper to stay home and enjoy pornhub.
It’s like going to the post office to just browse - which makes no sense either.
I'll give you some serious feedback here, on two particular points, one thing most of us hate more than anything is the upsell, especially if you've already agreed to buy a dance or a few, i have no problem spending serious cash when I'm feeling it and nothing kills your mood like dancers pushing for a VIP in the middle of a two or three dance set.
Another killjoy is waitresses, trying the buy the lady a drink two or three seconds after some dancer sits down next to you, if I want to buy her a drink I'll ask, usually that hustle gets a rude no response from me.
Just something for you to give your manager.
Thank you. Most of these things are obvious, some are interesting to me, some come from girls really trying to hustle you, some of them come from the club and I don’t foresee them changing. The drink thing, for example, don’t see that changing. Some things about the environment/industry just ARE a hustle.
No bueno:
Girl IDK coming up to me and asking me for a tip w/o having done anything for it - or a girl IDK coming up to me and asking me to buy them a drink
Too much hustle means Diamond Dolls in Pompano Beach. Literally within 10 seconds of sitting down, “hey papi, wanna dance...”. Nonetheless, that place is a money making machine.
No go’s
Asking me for a Drink while paying for dances.
Asking for Tips After Getting Lap dances
Asking for Random 1’s for nothing.
Lazy Ass Dancers .
Bad Attiudes when you say No. Bad attitudes In general
Snobish stuck up behavior.
Go’s
Consistent prices
High Milage
LDK Friendly
Lap Dance Environment
I like girls who Hustle . The Lazy strippers are the worst. Women who ask if you want a dance you usually get better service on average.
sitting at the bar with my fave and stroking her legs. manager sees my hand doing that and tells me to knock it off. meanwhile guy sitting behind is getting one hell of a grind. just found out his schedule. won't be going to that club on days when that shitbag is there.
Probably spend between 800 and 1500 each time. Clubs but are so loud you can't have any sort of conversation with the dancer in the main room. Loud is fine, so loud you can't think or you're vibrating due to the amount of base is too much. We've already dealt with the too much hustle, which I agree with in general. I also don't like clubs with the girls hanging back and check their phones and don't come out. A good waitress is a godsend they should be paid really well in incentivized to get better care of the customer.
First sentence was cut off. I Club every 3 or 4 weeks and spend the 802 1500 each time if it's a good experience. However I have walked out of Clubs having only spent cover and one drink if they sucked.
First sentence was cut off. I Club every 3 or 4 weeks and spend the 802 1500 each time if it's a good experience. However I have walked out of Clubs having only spent cover and one drink if they sucked.
The way I judge a club is to pretend I had a wife who worked there and then figure out which club I can have sex with my wife for the longest time and the cheapest price without getting in trouble. No matter how good a strip club is in other ways, if I can't have fun with a girl it's just going to be a waste of time and money.
Go
*Nice atmosphere
*Friendly smiles
*Attractive naked women
*Great quality dances at value
Stop Going
*DJ thinking it's a dance club and cutting the songs short at random times to either talk or play the next song.
*Clingy dancers who may not know when to give me space and let another dancer give dances.
*Horrible dances for horrible value.
*And my current reason for not going of lately or not alone: I'm back with my ex and we're doing great at the moment. She's okay with me going but only if she's allowed to go with me, lol. I'm not complaining. She's also into women so it's always fun watching her get a dance.
I don't care about extras or mileage. I stick to LDKs and the mileage I want is available at all clubs in my area. I do only club during dayshift, so I am massively more likely to pick a club with a busy dayshift.
Obviously you (pinksugardoll) have been to my home club (bucks fort worth) you have a good idea how it works. The club pretty much stays out of the way. The cost of food, drinks, and privacy are all extremely reasonably priced. And the club isn't pushy about pushing sales at least during the day.
You know this might sound kind of silly, but aside from the girls it is nice to go to the club to show off. It is a real ego booster. Rolling up to the club in your best car and being the biggest guy in the room. I know it sounds childish, but that gives me a rush of excitement that matches even the lap dances.
And the only reason I would not want to go to the club is because it starts to become boring. The money I spend there could be used for investing, starting a new hobby, or traveling. And also going too often will eventually wear out the novelty.
Yes Paul Drake, I like that club for that reason too but they are a little more in my shit as a dancer than yours as a customer lol.
Steeldog where were you when i was dancing in Nola for two years lol??
Ty so much everyone, This is ~mostly~ great lol!
I'm surprised no one really mentioned favorites/regulars yet as a reason to go. I pretty much only go to two clubs now, quite frequently, usually at least once a month for both of them. If a girl gives a very nice and warm (as well as hot, of course) experience, i'll remember her and usually look forward to seeing her again. May share contact information, but i rarely text girls ahead of time, and still like to be surprised by new hot and potentially good girls, as in giving good dances and potentially rooms in the future. If they're also good, then they have a good chance of becoming a new regular or favorite even.
What would it take for me to stop going to these clubs? Or why did i stop going to the other clubs? If all of my hot favorites/regulars stopped working there and the new talent wasn't replacing them quickly enough, i would lose interest in the club. This actually happened at a couple clubs. If the club became too strict from policies or too pricey, or the girls in general became too stingy for whatever reason, i would lose interest. This has also happened at at least one club. At some clubs nothing really changes about them in terms of talent, quality or mileage or service, but the mileage and physical affection isn't as high as at my favorite clubs, so i can't or don't have as much fun. It doesn't have to be outright extras, but it often comes pretty close (blurred lines and gray areas). At any rate, there's just no comparison to me for both experiences at the different clubs and it no longer makes sense to pay relatively the same amount/per time for the "inferior" experience, essentially "wasting" my money.
I moved to a different area, so the clubs I used to go to regularly aren't as close, so there's that. That said, there were 2 clubs I used to love going to I quit going to (before they closed up). Basically, one of them went from dancers who were fun to have around to dancers who were probably too stoned to do much of anything. The other had dancers who were fun when I first met them, but then it was 10 years later, they were still around, but past their expiration date. They never found new dancers, or at least ones who would replace the old ones.
Hustle:
Lying about what you’ll do. If you don’t want to suck this creepy old man’s dick, that’s fine. Just don’t tell me you will and then change your mind after the bar has my money.
Act like you’re doing me a huge favor just by deigning to talk to me. I don’t care if you *think* you’re doing me a favor, just don’t act like it.
Sob story after sob story after sob story.
Attempting to guilt me into tipping.
Threatening to complain to management when I decline to tip.
Too Much Hustle:
-Jumping in my lap upon saying hello
-Sob stories (I’ve gotten both of these: school is starting and I need money to buy my kids clothes; Christmas is coming and I need to buy my kids presents. Might be true, but that’s not the best method to get more dances or healthier tip from me).
-Trying to upsell a room during 1st or 2nd dances of a 3 dance set.
-Extensive sitting and chatting during lap dances instead of dancing (granted, this might not be hustle but it achieves a never again rating)
I get in free as am vip. I may seldom go c what on roster or enjoy buffet drinks, kappers.Have been seeing gal 10 yr, x stripper pop avg 150. She danced at club and engaged when I met her. Fuked her thru 3rd marriage, she div now but in relationship. Cuckhold does not know. She best of best in session dept.....does nude & bik modeling plus lappers b4. Sorta like club comes to me. Keeper girl.
dolfan and D-creep covered many of my thoughts on the subject. In addition to that, if a club compares unfavorably to other clubs in area, I'll tend not to go, even if they may be at an acceptable level compared to other areas. Lastly, very few clubs are good in all areas, but enough hot dancers with good mileage can more than offset gripes in other areas.
Nice atmosphere, staff and excellent service. I want to feel like they actually care about the customer. Of course hot friendly girls that are not overly pushy. Especially if it's a non-extras night then good food is definately a big consideration.
“What is too much hustle for you?? What defines that to you??
I am meeting with my regional mgr this week. I am an influencer in my club. That’s why I’m asking.”
Oh nice, were you working at one club for a while and got noticed because of that?
I know for myself, I’ll be friendly to managers but keep distant. Especially the one who slapped my butt once. I also met a club owner once. But not a regional manager.
I'll give any club a few chances to lose my business. If the girls are unfriendly cunts to me (or the staff are clueless assholes) on multiple occasions then I won't return. Glad to say it's never happened so far.
I’ve scaled back from very frequent visits - to once or twice a month. As I’ve aged (into my mid 50’s) - I’ve enjoyed the quality (or filth) of each visit more than the quantity of visits (and less overall extras).
I’ve also learned to cut my losses on nights when things aren’t working out as I had hoped.
I enjoy the full club experience. I have a very specific reason for visiting - but there’s more to enjoy. I like the idea of not knowing exactly what dancers I’ll find - not knowing what they might be wearing - or if they will want to get dirty.
I’ve recently started hitting a club for breakfast. The difference is the lack of booze. The rest is the same. I’m enjoying that more than I expected. I spent many years drinking heavily - and clubbing hard - and this change is a big one for me.
A few weeks ago I mentioned that I still find excitement in walking up to the club and opening the door. If that stops - that’s when I will stop clubbing.
Another no-go: A club where the girls are so fucked up on some drug that they can’t hold a coherent conversation. Greenlight here in Louisville is like that.
I’ll keep going if my fave dancers have a regular schedule. I’ll leave if my fave quits or if club management institutes some customer-unfriendly policies. Meaning a reduction in mileage, not stupid stuff like smoking and alcohol policies.
i find it funny that noone said bad/good TUSCL reviews as a reason. I was a frequent visitor of a club in NJ until I learned through tUSCL that they removed the curtains in the LD room which means you had to have FS in the open. That and one of the girls I try to avoid consistently is noted to work there.
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