Comments by goonster (page 7)

Nope. Just looking for a little variety. Either that or I'm so corrupt that it doesn't bother me any more.

In trixxi's defense, LMN you haven't done enough world traveling and/are too young to know what is normal. Looks alone don't make a good entertainer. There is so much more to it than that, but you wouldn't know because you haven't experienced it. All you've really experienced are most likely mostly shitty and overpriced experiences. Just saying, it might be a good idea to figure out the point of reference for what normal is before asking somebody how they are a stripper.

"though I have since learned there are people here banging bottom of the barrel girls for like 2 bills)." That's funny. He thinks that if she *only* cost 2 bills, then she must be bottom of the barrel. *sigh*... If she's a quality provider, how much she costs generally does not correlate to how good she looks. Case in point, I've banged $5000 ladies that looked good, but provided a sucky experience, and I've banged $100 ladies that looked just as good and provided a mind blowing experience. LMN recently paid two ladies $2K and ended up not really getting what he wanted. I'd say that's a sucky experience and personally would never repeat. In contrast, I spent $300 and got exactly what I wanted from a really hot stripper in SF and can get it as low as $200 total outlay. I'll gladly repeat that experience 10 times over the $2K shitty experience.

Dougster had it spot in. Either they do or they don't. If they do, then they'll go for it once it's brought up. These ladies are here to make money. If you just met, they are not your friend. Over time, that might happen, but in the beginning, it's a business transaction for them.

He talks like an in-experienced 20 something that hasn't yet experienced the harsh reality of his addiction. Don't worry, it'll catch up to him in the worst of ways. That's when he'll either get serious about recovery, or die from his addiction. Right now he's in the throes of it and will do what he's gonna do because his addiction addled brain isn't functioning like the rest of humanities brains do. I hope his family does a serious intervention, but really he has to want to change or it will be for nought.

*almost no money* not almost money. Stupid auto correct

The only time I'm carrying more than $20 cash is between the ATM and where I'm going to spend it. I only spend cash at strip clubs and AMPs, everywhere else I pay with a debit card that gets filled with the amount that I'm planning to spend right before I spend it. I transfer the cash from an account that doesn't have card access via my banking app on my phone, that way if any of my debit cards get compromised, there is almost money available at any given time. I do generally carry a $20 bill for the few and far between moments when you go to make a small purchase and the place doesn't take cards, then I hit the $20.

At his current rate he's got 6 months to a year unless somebody intervenes.

Not worth it. Crazy horse on market st is better bang for your buck. If you're just looking for some quality strange, I can hook you up with a proven deliverer at CEO Health Club on Bush street. It'll cost you $60 for the room and you pay her $140. You'll get an hour of getting your mind blown. PM me if you're interested and I'll dish the deets back to you.

@LMN - nope. I split my time between San Francisco, where I work, and my home town, Phoenix. She ain't a street walker, rather, a very hot lady in SF. You're over-paying.

I'm going to spend 2-3 hours this afternoon fucking the brains out of my ATF, all for $300

Champaign/vip rooms are for privacy. What actually happens in there is between you and the dancer. It can be not much more than what you get out on the floor, or if you chose well, whatever you want.

Itc extras in Phx are relatively rare. There are inky a few clubs where that reliably happens. Most of the fun is OTC.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2014/05/14/phoenix-police-serving-warrant-club-lace-prositution-case-abrk/9080037/

Yep, at some point you become too high profile and Phx PD rolls in and performs a correction, though in the case of an actual strip club, at least in Phx, it's a simple matter of not renewing their business or liqueur license, no raids really required.

I agree with dougster, there is no such thing as a non-extras club. At a minimum there is at least 1 girl per shift that is willing to do at least OTC if not ITC on the DL. All you have to do is find her. It's a simple numbers game. Cycle through and test drive along with just asking. You can spend a little time beforehand scoping out the ladies and see who stays busy and/or gets mobbed when they go on stage to narrow down who to try first.

No, they were advertising locally as being a strip club in an effort to get more people through the door instead of advertising as a sexually oriented adult business. On top of that, they over charge and under deliver. Club lace is known among us locals as being a ripoff, even as a jack joint. Imagine being a non-local PL seeing an ad for a stripclub, going there only to discover that it's not a stripclub, and then get ripped off on top of that. No wonder somebody complained. Serves them right. There are way better place to go for a one-on-one experience.

Club lace isn't a strip club, it's one of the many one-on-one jack joints in the greater Phx area. It's been around forever. Where they got into trouble was trying to present as a strip club instead of being a one on one joint. If they had kept the one-on-one presentation, the cops would have left them alone.

I'm currently ATF-less, my last one didn't end well.

@LMN as somebody who is a recovering addict, I can say that you have a rough road ahead of you. At the rate you're going, you'll be dead from the drugs long before you can blow through your families money unless you change your lifestyle. Unfortunately, that's really dificult to do for a sociopath, so you're really in for a rough life. For me, I keep it simple. One day at a time, take pleasure in the simple things of life. Get a simple daily or weekly routine down and stick with it. You want to be challenged in life? That's your challenge. Being self destructive? That's easy. Not being self destructive? That's hard work.

Congrats, you got her number. She wants to make it easier for you to see her in the club.

I've had that happen. It's a combo of frayed nerves and desperation and crossing into new territory with a known entity. At the end of the day, they're still women and have feelings. They just generally don't have anybody get to know them well enough to where the feelings even matter, though every once in a while, you hit the spot where they matter, and then that happens.

I don't sc as much as I used to. Why go spend several hundred dollars at the sc and maybe get laid when I can go to an AMP and have my way with a willing lady for an hour at a cost of $120-$160 plus the house fee (usually $50-$70 for an hour)? Incall/Outcall escort? $2-300 plus the hotel room if outcall. The only upside to a SC is variety and you get to see/test drive her first.

Pleasure seeking for me

For the most part, yes, they have breathtaking money management problems, but really, it's nothing more than a reflection of breathtaking life management issues. In all the years I've been doing the SC thing, I can count on 1 hand the number of strippers I've met that have their life put together in a somewhat normal fashion and strip because they want to and not because it's the only way they can make a living without working 40+ hours a week. The normal stripper shift is 4.5 to 7 hours. Most of them don't work every day and only work the minimum they have to on the days they do work. I have no sympathy when they complain about how hard they've had to work and still have trouble making ends meet. I regularly clock 50-60 hours a week at my job and have a life to pay for, and manage just fine honey, I'm not interested in hearing about your woes when you're clock 5-6 hours at work 3-4 days/evenings a week and can't pay your bills.