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7 years ago
-->"Is it required to wear a towel while getting a massage?"
I believe that in most (all?) jurisdictions, draping is REQUIRED for legit massage, not an option. A place that lets you lie there naked is in the gray zone; I have heard about a few places that let you get a bit of extra titillation that way, while still not offering happy endings (these places often have young attractive CMTs as well -- sort of "naughty massage" without the naughty). But those places are risking getting busted, and the CMT is risking getting her license pulled -- a legit masseuse will expect you to be naked, other the sheets
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7 years ago
Ya, it turns out that most gestures you are inspired to do for a stripper, mean far more to you than they do to her -- go figure :) In particular, the time around a young stripper's birthday is in very high demand; I'd counsel avoiding any gestures entirely during that time.
Occasionally I'll find a stripper who is in a low point during her life, and then birthdays can be pretty fun -- she desperately wants to party and validate her life, and if her best regular is her best bet, that girl is going to let loose and may well be genuinely appreciative of the fact that if not for you, her birthday would go un-marked. My longest non-overnight OTC was just such a date: took her to lunch, took her drinking, took her to the strip club, went back to the hotel room to have sex and shower, then at her urging (she obviously did not want to go home yet) got dressed again and went out to dinner and then back to the strip club to party more.
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7 years ago
chessmaster-->"I'm sure the percentage of strippers that have to be high or drunk is a lot higher. Personally I don't notice a widespread rampant drug and alcohol abuse in the "clean" clubs."
Chess, I'm not sure I agree. IME, at non-extras alcohol clubs, close to 95% of the girls drink every single shift, at least to the point of buzzed if not drunk. No, they don't have to deal psychologically with the idea of extras, but 1. there's no extras, so socializing is a huge part of the experience, many customers want to drink with the girls, 2. the easy availability of alcohol plus social pressure over bonding with other strippers means any downtime often leads to drinking.
In short, IME, if a girl absolutely insists on not drinking, it's far easier to do that in a nude club where the only pressure to drink is in the lockerroom, than it is in a no-extras topless alcohol club where everyone else is drinking and her revenue directly depends on drinking.
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7 years ago
The point about shifting to seeking attention is interesting. Being as honest with yourself as you can be, to what extent do you think this is somewhat universal among strippers, versus to what extent are you projecting your personal experience?
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7 years ago
Interesting perspective, pd. You should turn it into an article and get it published, it's 100x more interesting than the usual by-rote "we are not hookers, tip us if you're at the rail, no we don't have sex with customers" obligatory article you see all over the place.
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7 years ago
This is the point where you find out whether your common sense is stronger or weaker than your inner white knight. Will you mount your mighty steed and rescue the fair maiden, perchance to live happily together in your castle?
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7 years ago
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Cashman1234He/Him - He’s a filthy pig. That’s him in VIP with another whore.
Ish: She WAS a stripper with a heart of gold! You just had a less-refined view of what that phrase meant, at the time :)
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7 years ago
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Cashman1234He/Him - He’s a filthy pig. That’s him in VIP with another whore.
I imagine most of us have fallen for a stripper, or fantasized about a relationship with one, at one time or another.
I am old enough that I no longer even fantasize about it, I tend to truly like my ATFs and have kept in contact with a couple who retired many years ago, but I am not interested in having a real romantic relationship with a stripper, on any level whatsoever. 8 years ago -- I *said* I didn't want that, but can look back and realize I fantasized about it now and then
BTW, I NEVER fell for a stripper when I went to extras clubs; it's only when I transitioned significantly to non-extras clubs that I ever even fantasized about this -- maybe I need the princess fantasy, and her fucking guy after guy behind the curtain kills it :)
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7 years ago
That's how you do it!
Agree also with my un-esteemed colleagues above: if you give it to them, it's a gift. If you don't feel like giving them a gift, don't give it to them.
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7 years ago
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SubramanCar key and wallet dating your sister
This is the kind of end-of-life planning all PLs should be doing. Except, if I die while fucking my ATF in a hotel, I insist she stay in the room with me, so when the police and paramedics come, they're like, "whoa, he was fucking this fine chick? Savage!"
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7 years ago
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SubramanCar key and wallet dating your sister
^^^ My facebook and snapchat are basically honeypots, the only ones on my facebook & snapchat are other strippers. So all they can do there is ask each other "have you seen Subraman? Not me, have you seen Subraman? I have not, have you?"
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7 years ago
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SubramanCar key and wallet dating your sister
If the words "auto-erotic asphyxiation" do not appear in that obituary, I will be disappoint.
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7 years ago
He got involved w/ Beth pretty quickly after his divorce, if I remember right
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7 years ago
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SubramanCar key and wallet dating your sister
You're not getting it, man. MY SIDE HOOCH NEEDS TO BE INFORMED OF MY DEATH. MUST!
:) :) of course. Plus, discussing this is an outlet for my fantasy regarding death by bunga bunga
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7 years ago
As a general rule I don't like sitting at the stage, and when I do sit at stage, it's to get a girl's attention, or to get a close-up look at the new girl. But there *are* times I sit at the row of tables closest behind the stage, and tip every girl that comes up -- I'm often the only customer in the place, or one of just a very few, and a small gesture like that tends to buy a lot of goodwill and has earned me some good drinking-buddy strippers, plus (perhaps to the disgust of tuscl) I think the girls deserve a few bucks for going up there on a dead day.
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7 years ago
-->"And a lot lizzard showed up asking $30"
Was he hot? Who was going to suck whose dick? Do you toss a coin for it, or something?
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7 years ago
-->"I do agree with others that you should control the ordering and order the drink for her"
Ya, I've been preaching that from the get-go. It avoid the situation where she orders whatever, and it turns out to cost $25. I work out what we're going to drink beforehand, often constraining her choices ("Good news, Cinnamon, we're doing shots today! Vodka or tequila?"), before the waitress ever gets there. When the waitress gets there, it's "two shots of (some vodka that I know only costs $6/shot)".
It's a fun enough part of the experience for me that I'll often jettison a girl that doesn't play along. "Oh, you don't drink? I really wanted to come here and do shots with someone today. Sorry, maybe next time!". The girls try all kinds of excuses, "I'm in AA", "I can't drink on my depression medicine", "I have diabeetus", but I really don't care what the reason is -- if she doesn't drink, she's finding another customer to hang out with
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7 years ago
I like it when I can barely tell the stripper is wearing perfume until I bury my face into her neck or hair, and she smells amazing. I find many strippers are pretty good at applying this way, fairly moderately. Mercifully, it's also the case that most strippers were super cheap bodysprays instead of actual perfumes, and those bodysprays evaporate quickly, unless they get into your clothes.
Speaking of clothes, when I was married (and even before then), on the way home from the club, I always had a change of clothes in the car. At minimum, I'd stop off at my gym or even a local starbucks, change my shirt and jeans, and run some soap and water over my arms, face, and neck. Over decades of SCing, I've never been caught by a girlfriend or my wife, never so much as a "are you wearing cologne" or whatever... I think you guys who are married are INSANE for not at least changing your shirt and having some baby wipes in the car to wipe down arms/neck/face
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7 years ago
-->"Fucked a fat bitch...kinky one..pissed on me...choked me...gagged herself until she puked..good times"
Does anyone else suspect juice was alone in the room when all this happened?
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7 years ago
-->"I always thought what is the benefit of buying a stripper a drink when you are actually at the club to tip her for dancing. Do you think its more beneficial to buy the dancer a drink ? "
Nearly 100% of the time, it's more beneficial to buy her a drink. Drinks are practically the best deal in the club, the only better deal being buying her food. For the price of $7, most dancers will follow the code that she'll until the drink is done. That means waiting a few minutes for the waitress to show up, waiting for the waitress to get back with the drink, then time to drink. Easy 20-30 minutes hanging out with her out on the floor, including possibly her sitting on your lap, groping, flirting, etc. ... for $7. And the more drinks you get, the more buzzed she gets, the more fun she is (at least until she passes that tipping point to drunk and hostile). Penny-wise and pound-foolish to pass up that deal.
Of course, I realize I'm speaking about my own particular circumstances, at the clubs I go to. There are clubs where there are special $25 drinks for dancers -- I don't mean those. There are clubs where the girls don't follow the code -- I don't mean them. But it my low-touch club where I can actually get away with more on the floor, than I can in a lapdance? $20 lapdance = 3 minutes of light touching, $7 drink = grope her under the table, including FIV with the right girl? No brainer. Downright dumb to pass up drinks because of some goofy hangup you have. Just know the club and the girls well enough to understand whether drinks are a good deal or not... sometimes, they're an awesome deal, sometimes they're a disaster.
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7 years ago
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flagoonerEverything written by this member is a fact.
Do any of you guys stage tip? Do you tip everyone, or just go to the stage when there's a hot girl? If the answer is "I just go to the stage when there's a hot girl", aren't you basically paying her for being beautiful? Ya, ok, it's $4, but still ...
I stage tip rarely (don't like sitting at stage), but when I do, it's either because I want to ask her to join me later, or to tip her just because of how sexy she is on stage and how that makes me feel
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7 years ago
lol ignant fux! Only two of the best fighters in boxing, is all. Along with either the crookedest or most incompetent judge
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7 years ago
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Hank MoodyI'm fine. I'm disgusted with my life and myself, but I'm not unhappy about that.
-->" but I was hoping for something seamless that would appear to be a real number."
In regards to telos, what did you mean by the above? What makes Telos less than seamless or not appearing to be a real number?
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7 years ago
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Hank MoodyI'm fine. I'm disgusted with my life and myself, but I'm not unhappy about that.
Jimmy, thanks for the report, let us know how TextNow works for you. I'm waffling on Telos -- I really, really want THREE phone numbers on my phone, of which two need to be "second line" numbers. The thing is, I wouldn't talk much on those 2nd line numbers, they are for 1. my strippers & SBs (text only!) and 2. internet retailers who ask for a phone number. So I'm guessing I could buy 10 minutes worth of phone call credits (how much would that cost?) and leave it on there indefinitely.
I suppose the other option is just to get a third 2nd-line app. That is, both TextNow and TextMe, use one for retailers and the other for strippers. Wonder if they play well together, or how badly it would demolish my battery
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7 years ago
-->"Make sure you tag her name with something."
All my girls from Gold Club have the last name in my phone of "Oro", e.g., Jasmine Oro, Porsche Oro, etc. All the girls from SA are "Essay", E.g., Tina Essay, Lilly Essay. Etc -- every girl gets a fake last name that matches the place where I know her from