Comments by dtek (page 6)

There's a reason Tom Leykis used to call it "Porkland." Incidentally, more than two way contact *is* available at least at some of the strip clubs here. It's just difficult to find, especially with a girl you'd want to find it with.

No "old favorites," but it's common to see current and former strippers come into a club to socialize while out for the night.

According to the local paper there have been 166 gang related shootings and assaults this year in Portland. A map shows that a lot of them happened in the parts of town where some of the city's divier strip clubs are located. Heat is the diviest club I've ever been to and, like ranukam, I won't be going back.

These places started popping up in the Seattle area after the city tightened its strip club regulations. And, yes, several of these chains have been accused of lewd conduct by the baristas (http://kirotv.com/news/news/bikini-barista-stand-busted-everett/nbdJL/) to prostitution (http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Java-Juggs-Prostitution-Charges-273255481.html).

Their website says their locations are in Snohomish County, about 200 miles from the Oregon border. Seems like a long way to go to see a girl in a bikini make a cup of coffee. There are a bunch of bikini coffee stands in Portland too. At the one closest to me the girls often wear nothing but pasties on top. It's in the parking lot of a strip club, right next door to a canibus dispensary. The coffee usually sucks, though.

Ranukam posted a review of one of those places (Whispers) a day or two ago. You might want to take a look. His experience seems typical.

Read the papers. Shootings take place in the parking lot so they can't be seen from the VIP. To stay safe you must remain in the VIP until dawn, after the shooters have all gone back to their hideouts.

I get plenty of two way contact at Cab II. Might be because I've been going there for years and the dancers all know me. Pearl has told me she's OK with two way contact with most customers as long as they're not going for the pussy. You won't get two way contact in the $25 dances though. You'll have to spring for the two for $60 vips.

Incidentally, there was another shooting outside a non-strip club bar in Portland that same night. Two killed, one wounded. Different part of town. Bad night to be partying in Portland. My favorite club's parking lot was full of cops when I got there last night. Never did find out what that was about. http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/10/2_killed_1_wounded_in_shooting.html

A few months ago after my son turned 21 he told me he wanted to see what a strip club was like. His GF was adamantly opposed, saying she'd drop him if he even went to a bikini barista, much less a strip club. The next time he and I were out by ourselves he wanted to go to a club, so I took him to my favorite. It was a Saturday afternoon and the club was mostly empty. He got *lots* of attention from the girls. He picked one and I bought him his first couple of dances. He bought a couple more and she threw in two more for free. Must have got it out of his system (until he's my age ;) because he hasn't wanted to go again. The girls keep asking about him though

Been in that club many times. ATF used to work there occasionally. There's a reason that part of Portland is called "felony flats."

If you prepay for multiple dances within three minutes (one song's length) of closing time, you're asking to get robbed.

Plenty of Portland clubs will hire her. There's more than one SE club where she'd be the hottest girl in the house. But Golden Dragon's stock in trade is under 21yos. I'm not surprised they didn't hire her. I know one smoking hot 30yo who couldn't get hired there either. At the bottom of the thread she says she ended up at Club 205 and likes that it's a stage money club (with probably the worst private dance area in Portland). Bottom line: not every club will work for every dancer, but in Portland there's at least one club for any woman who will take her clothes off on stage.

@JohnSmith69 "if somebody had the money and the space, the two businesses would do fantastic next to one another." The building next door to The Runway in Hillsboro, OR is being converted into a pot shop, probably opening in October when recreational sales become legal here. I don't think the two businesses are connected though, except for being next door to each other.

"Within five minutes of picking her up for a date, you can accurately determine what drug she has most recently taken" She does those drugs in front of you while getting ready for the date.

A high percentage of the "untreated" ones are self medicating; the treated ones too. ;)

Oregon's constitutional free speech clause is so broad that the Oregon Supreme Court has ruled that it permits live sex performances on stage. In fact, the Diablo clubs are one of the places where you can see two girls going at each other with toys on stage. There really isn't much the government can do about the content of the sign. They can only regulate size and placement, and then only to a limited extent.

@shadowcat Actually this is the third "vegan strip club" opened up by Johnny Diablo. He's been trying to open a club at this location for a couple of years. It took him a while to get a liquor license for this location so maybe he opened it up as a restaurant originally, but it's always been his intention to make it a strip club. His second club, Black Cauldron, has been "closed for remodeling" for several months, probably due to difficulties with the liquor commission or the lottery commission. Many Portland clubs derive much of their revenue from lottery machines (electronic slot and poker machines). @jestrite50 The club that's complaining is famous for their steaks. At one time the owner also owned a cattle ranch that provided the (bovine) meat for his strip club.

At my favorite club the bartenders all know what I drink and have it waiting by the time I get from the front door to the bar. I ordered a steak dinner at another club. Seemed like it was taking a long time to come out so I asked the bar guy about it. He apologized and said the cook couldn't find me when he brought it out up. They re-made my dinner and my drinks were on the house for the rest of the night.

I get asked that fairly frequently, but not usually by dancers. One time I was sitting at the bar at a club I'm a regular at. The bartender, who I'd known for months, leaned over and started to quietly ask me about some legal situation she was in. When I told her I had no idea about her situation she told me she had thought all along that I was a cop. I've also been mistaken by other customers for club management.

Naw. I don't bite unless they like that sort of thing. ;)

Oddly, the club is where you're most likely to meet a guy like you describe. Unfortunately you'll have to weed out a lot of duds before you find one like you're describing, but that's true everywhere. I would suggest one of the online dating sites like OKCupid or Zoosk, but whenever I get a message from a girl in her 20's I assume it's some sort of hustle. That may be your biggest hurdle to overcome. If you're who I suspect you are, you're plenty cute and (at least on stage) have a friendly, flirty personality. But most successful middle aged guys, when approached by a 20-something, will think she's more interested in his money than his companionship. I'd ask where you shop for groceries, but that might be creepy. ;)

@SJG Thanks. DV8 is a middle of the road Portland strip club, neither upscale nor excessively divey. The dancers are mostly pretty good looking. From megger's description of herself I'd guess her looks are typical of the girls who work there. And, yeah, I'm sure I could have gotten more attention from one of the girls if I'd put some more effort into it. But I wasn't really looking to put a lot of effort into getting attention that I'd be paying for on that particular night. Incidently, megger's review is correct about the food there. I had a ribeye that night that was excellent. @meggers No worries about keeping your anonymity. Maybe we'll meet anyway. Maybe we've already met. ;) Good luck finding the man you're looking for. Incidentally, assuming you're one of the girls you mentioned in your review, you've probably already outed yourself to anyone who knows where to find your club's schedule and who's smart enough to look at who's still dancing there.

@meggers I'm smart and financially stable (an engineer). Won't rate myself on the "handsome" scale, but I'm pretty much what you've described you're looking for. I'm not lewd or rude. Based on your one review, I also live in the same city as you and sometimes go to your club. I was at DV8 a few days ago. I struck up conversations with several girls that interested me at the rack. Every one of them disappeared into the dressing room at the end of her stage set and didn't come back out until she was on stage again. The few girls who were sitting with customers appeared to be sitting with regulars or guys who looked like they're the demographic you say you're not looking for (poorly dressed, don't appear to have much money). If you want to meet and hang out with guys like you describe you're going to have to make an effort to get to know the guys you meet to weed out the ones you're not looking for. Be friendly and flirty. Sit and chat and spend some time. Fortunately your club does not play the music at levels that make it impossible for guys my age to carry on a conversation. If the guy you're sitting with turns out not to be what you're looking for and you can't sell him a dance, move on to the next guy and don't look back. If you're serious about wanting to meet a guy like you describe, PM me your dancer name and come in to DV8 when you're there. ;)

Never seen a stripper's father in the club (that I know of), but I know a couple of strippers whose brothers are at the club regularly. One of these dancer's mother is also at the club regularly and used to dance. Her daughter danced there too until she recently birthed a potential fourth generation of strippers. The fourth generation are twins! ;)