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13 years ago
@ ArtCollege: If you liked the stories about the last night at Honey's, a Facebook page was made of it. Many of the dancers who worked that night are shown in photos. Most prominently is Jacqueline (now retired, I believe). See:
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Talents-West-Best/124622107548643?sk=wall
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13 years ago
@ CTQWERTY: Deja Vu got its start in Seattle. Its first club, ever, is still open and just up the street in neighboring Lake Forest Park (which I see you've reviewed). That's why there's such a strong Deja Vu presence in the Puget Sound Region. When Dream Girls at Rick's opens tonight, the Vu corporation will have eight of the fifteen clubs in Washington state. (The other seven aren't even that good.) When the former Rick's building was first announced as being up for auction, I e-mailed eight other strip club companies to interest them in the auction, in the hope that the winning bid would come from someone other than Deja Vu. I wasn't successful. I think a Muslim prayer center would have been a better end result.
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13 years ago
This should have been a PM, not a discussion item.
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13 years ago
I might go to the grand opening tonight, or this weekend. A month ago I talked to one of the managers of the new club, who is currently a manager of the Deja Vu, Lake Forest Park, just two miles north, on the same street. He said the decor will be elegant. The exact term he used to describe it will be "Moulin Rouge." We'll see what that means.
This past Wednesday night, I was in Little Darlings and a dancer there, who will now work at the new club seemed to think that what was the former VIP room will have a price tag of three dances for $100. I'm not expecting this new club to be like the old Rick's. It will probably just be another, but fancy, Deja Vu club. (Yawn.) It's always been my experience that any new strip club, anywhere, is very careful and cautious in its first year of opening. After that, they tend to loosen up. Here in Seattle, Club Sin Rock is an example. I was just there Wednesday night also, and things are a little more enjoyable now.
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13 years ago
@Stiletto: Thank you very much.
@skeets35: I think you and I have the same technique. The key is in your phrase, "...but extra bucks are not as important as the dancers feeling safe ..."
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13 years ago
It certainly isn't Washington. All the clubs here are juice bars, and dancers are required to keep both tops and bottoms on for lap dances. Hoever, some flashing and extras can be had. When I lived in California, the clubs were (and probably still are) more lenient. Topless and nude lap dances are available. Alcohol is too, but only in bikini and topless clubs. Nude clubs are nonalcohol, only.
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13 years ago
@Stiletto and gillydon:
1. The reviews of Pandora's, which opened mid-July this year, are mild. The common theme to the comments is that Pandora's is being managed, just like the Talents West clubs (Rick's, Honey's, Fox's, and Sugar's) were in the two years after the "big raid" and until their May 5, 2010 forced closure. That's why business is luke warm there. As Stiletto mentioned, Pandora's is being very cautious. So much, that it's not achieving much business. Additionally, it's been my observation that any new strip club, anywhere I've been, is very cautious in its first year, or so, of business. It's just the nature of the game.
2. I have no difficulty getting $20., two-way contact dances at ANY Puget Sound Region strip club. I feel I have a special technique for getting it though. I'm well-appreciated by the dancers that I patronize, and it's not for the amount of money I spend. You're welcome to PM if you'd like further details.
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13 years ago
I read your review of Cannonball. I've never read such gracious criticism of a strip club before!
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13 years ago
She was going to get evicted from her apartment tomorrow, if she didn't come up with about $400. today. She wanted me to "loan" her the $400. I asked her, instead, if I came in and got $400. from her in lap dances, would that help as well. She said yes. I decided to split it half and half. I had already "loaned" her money a few times and of course, being a stripper, she had not repaid any of it. So I thought, "I'll get $200. in dances from her and 'loan' her the other $200." I should have just said, "You've been evicted before. You can handle it." But, like the sucker I used to be, I got $200. in lap dances and I still "loaned" her the other $200. This stripper now owes me the $200. plus all that I "loaned" her previously, and she hasn't been seen in three years. (I know there was a thread a while back about the "merits" of loaning strippers money, so I don't need to be advised to read it, again.) I've since stopped "loaning" money to strippers, even if it meant the end of my relationship with them. In all cases, but one, where a stripper owes me money, it has since ended our business and personal relationship.
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13 years ago
There have been numerous TUSCL discussions and articles on the subject of etiquette. I suggest you use the Google advanced search feature:
http://www.google.com/advanced_search
Enter the word "etiquette," and limit the search to www.tuscl.net and you'll come up with lots of entries. I just tried it. There's all the advice you could use there.
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13 years ago
It has to be a coordinated effort between two dancers. They have to know how to share the time and space equally. It certainly helps if they know each other first. I've only done a double a couple of times. Since then, I always decline the offer. The customer has to pay double, but doesn't usually get double the fun out of it.
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13 years ago
@ Dudester and Troop: Thanks to both of you. You've done TUSCL a well-appreciated service. Now what about "Policeman?"
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13 years ago
This is straying from the original thread about tipping a dancer who performs poorly, but the thread has evolved into the general subject of tipping in a strip club. Of all the strip club employees that get tipped by dancers, I have always wondered how do those people help dancers do their jobs? If they actually help dancers, then they deserve tips. Stiletto explained above how a good d.j. and door man help her, but what about others? Waitresses that help dancers get customers to buy "ladies" drinks--yes. Are there any other employees that a dancer is normally obligated to tip that actually help them do their job? Conversely, which employees expect tips, that really don't have anything to do with assisting dancers?
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13 years ago
@ Stiletto and others: I agree that tipping, in general, in the service industry is overdone. How many times do you go into a small business and see a tip jar on the counter? My first rule of thumb is that if there's a label on the jar and it's mispelled, "Tip's," I won't tip for incorrect spelling. My second rule of thumb: I won't tip where there's a tip jar--period. Often that's in a walk-up food stand/shop of some kind. I had to stand up while giving my order, stand there, while it's being prepared, and the walk the food to my seat. They expect a tip for that?
Even in some strip clubs I've been to, there's a tip jar on the front counter! You mean I'm expected to tip the cashier for taking my money to begin with? In one strip club, I once went back to the cashier after I was inside for a while to get change. He immediately gave it to me, but a (not too bright) dancer right behind me, yelled at me to give the cashier a tip! I ignored her.
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13 years ago
I must be the opposite of most of you above. First of all I'm single and live alone, so I don't have the same concerns that others have. I get dancers' phone numbers by giving them mine. They usually do call or text me. I have about a 90% success rate. If a dancer asks me for my phone number, I'll give it to her. I don't usually have much to loose. If I don't really care for her, perhaps one or two times of seeing them in the club and not getting dances with them convinces them that they don't need to call me.
One time a dancer asked me for my number when I know I didn't want that particular dancer to contact me, I just said, "Oh, enough dancers already have my number." I turned my head and walked away. Maybe I offended her, but in this business/hobby, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't many times. As a part of club-going, you're going to offend some people, some of the time--just like declining a dancer's request that you buy dances from her.
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13 years ago
Two other uses of OTC are "over-the-counter," and "off the clock."
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13 years ago
Would any of our Canadian members care to comment on this? There is no dollar bill in Canadian currency, so how is tipping on stage handled at Canadian strip clubs?
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13 years ago
@ policeman: You had almost no credibility, whatsoever, when you first started posting on TUSCL. Each time you post, you loose even more credibility. You're now into the less than zero category of credibility. You might be the first one, ever, to have a "negative" credibility rating. (In case you can't comprehend that, it means that even your own mother doesn't believe anything you say.)
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13 years ago
I have a T-shirt that says "I Support Single Moms." It has a sillouette of a stripper on a pole. I do wear it to strip clubs sometimes. (It was a gift from a dancer a few years ago.)
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13 years ago
@ JohnBuford: You're thinking correctly, but I believe the name is "Boobularous."
A related incident: En route to a now demolished strip club, Honey's, in Everett, WA, I would have to drive past a "Babies R Us" store. One night with, you know what on my mind, I passed by the store and quickly misread the sign as "Boobies R Us." I thought, what a good name for a strip club!"
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13 years ago
I'm sorry. I created some confustion. The direct link to the new club's Facebook page is: http://www.facebook.com/pages/DreamGirls-at-Foxs/253898637990212
I found it on the "wall" of the FB page for the soon-to-open Dream Girls at Rick's. The link I posted in my discussion item was accidentally the link for Rick's.
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13 years ago
@ Dougster: I agree with you completely! I know you don't get a lot of concurrence with your posts on TUSCL, but I have to agree with you on every point you just made. At least it will give club-goers in the south sound region a choice. The two clubs are only about two miles apart. The new Dream Girls at Rick's is due to open November 4th. Once it does, there will be three strip clubs within three miles of each other--all on the same street, in north Seattle. That should make Lake City Way a "strip club row." It could help the business of all three clubs, like department stores in a shopping mall. They all create cross traffic between each of them. I sense the same will happen between the two clubs that will then exist in Lakewood and Parkland.
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13 years ago
I wrote about this somewhere in my first few months of membership. When I was married, I'd prevent the problem in the first place. I would sneak an extra shirt with me out to the car. I wouldn't change into it until I arrived at the club. Conversely, I'd change right out of it once I got back into my car upon leaving the club. Also, before leaving the club, I'd stop in the men's room and thoroughly wash face and at least get my whole head wet. That, along with some fresh deodorant just as I pulled in the driveway at home nipped the problem in the bud.