Comments by nelson

My experience when I'm in Detroit is the same as SuperDude

I have heard many lies over my years clubbing. I have heard many friends and fellow clubbers tell me of lies they have been told. Like many of you that develope relationships with dancers, the minute I hear a lie it sours the relationship. It reconfirms the fact that it's all business....for them.

What is an LDK and DS? Thank you.

You should add hot manicurist ( with marital problems) to your list. So far no success!

I thought you were discussing the strippers daily experience with customers!

Many day shift girls are older, divorced and working to provide for their children.

Sounds like it was very interesting and a lot of fun. The Flight Club and Penthouse are two of my favorite clubs when in Detroit. It would be entertaining to hear about your individual experiences with the dancers. I have been there several times and am familiar with some of the dancers.

I have traveled extensively around the country on business. I have experienced clubs from NY to LA and from Miami to Detroit. I find most of the Phoenix clubs to be very tame maybe even boring. While in Phoenix my best experiences have been at Hi-Liter, second would Bourbon Street.

I have been to Hi-Liter a few times. The club is a 5 on a 1 - 10 scale. The dancers fill the complete spectrum. Sometimes there a diamond in the rough. I have had some decent fun in VIP but there is no privacy and it's very worn. Have fun.

I have been to the Flight Club several times. The majority of the dancers are attractive and VERY friendly, however it is very expensive.

the ladies should be promoting "body heat"

Do not mix business and pleasure

Stripping is a sad career choice! However the money is good for them.

Sorry, I meant high mileage and extras clubs?

I just saw her picture....I'm with Jack

Fortunately for us they're largely all hookers to some extent. They don't feel that way about thenselves. One recently commented that she only gives HJ's. Another I spoke with told me she only gives HJ's and CBJ's. During another conversation a hot brunette offered me everything, "because she really liked me". She also commented that I was her only exception. LIKELY!!! Of course this is Detroit.

That depends on how you define prostitution. If you include hj's, most are!

Guys like to regularly read reviews of their favorite local clubs to reinforce the pricing matrixs they pay and to see if their ATF are doing what, for how much with other customers!!! Trying to keep prices in check.

OV. How can any guy not have an idea of what goes on in these clubs! At a minimum guys are grabbing the strippers tits and ass. Would you be able to deal with guys molesting your SO?

Mondays are the best days to go clubbing. Most business people are back in the office catching up and recovering from the weekend. The strippers need cash to payoff what they spent over the weekend. The proportion of customers to strippers is higher on Monday afternoons and evenings. Therefore the strippers are more open to satisfying customers on Mondays.

I feel the most important aspect to attaining extras is to develop a trusting relationship with your ATF. This includes being a good respectful guy (with a lot of cash). The stripper will want to make you a regular, thus taking good care of you both ITC and OTC. This may require a few visits, drinks and possibly meals to develop a connection.

Trixxi, this was a very interesting article. I feel a lot of dancers began their careers innocently doing clean, legitimate lap dances, just selling a fantasy. As the economy deteriorated, the business slowly evolved from look but don't touch, to allowing customers to minimally touch the dancers. Then the dancers started allowing the customers to touch more, while the dancers became much more aggressive in touching the customers without material between them. As this was developing, the competitive environment for customers who were getting used to more hands on entertainment, required the dancers to provide more and more personal services. If the dancers did not offer more, the customer went to the next girl. The dancers that were opposed to providing more services lost their customers and business. They were forced into prostituting themselves. Also, I feel that the clubs management knows and supports this type of activity to attract customers to the bar.

Excellent article.

As a result of the current national economic downturn the customer pool has diminished. The clubs are hiring more strippers so they can keep their tipout revenue stream up. Years ago some of the strippers started giving HJ's to compliment lap dances. This generally became a standard part of lap dances. Currently, as the customers reduce spending their time and money in clubs, and the number of strippers has increased, the customers have become more demanding with higher expectations, therefore the strippers have to be more competitive with each other offering more extras. I don't think this is going to change in the near future because the bar has been raised and the customers won't accept air dances again.

Being a regular makes sense, but very expensive. I like your idea about going on the same day and time so you know who's going to be working. Tuesday's are usually good because it's not to busy and the dancers have more time to sit and talk. The dancers I know never give extras for free because they don't want you to expect anything for free in the future. Like you said, it's their business.