Comments by RiskA

Haha guys with one review “laying down the law”? Reporting extras properly requires some vagueness & subtlety, but it’s why we come here. There’s no explicitness “rule” it’s just be sensible.

Haha the bathroom smell WAS memorable, I know exactly what you mean. And concur on the nice bodies, variety & low but fun mileage in normal dance areas. Good spacer between the brothel clubs….

Techman: usual 2-song strip on stage, first peeling & second nude. Private dances I did were nude, I think the standard $40 dance is nude. Not even sure they do a topless only; never asked.

I like being a regular & have my tricks to break into the rotation. Hit them up at the tip rail or drink station & clearly say I’ll get a vip if they come talk when they’re available, with a tip if they’ve danced. If they then blow me off, they’re off the list. Sometimes I wait a while, but never longer than I remain otherwise entertained at the club. I would NEVER approach a girl sitting with a customer, that’s a party foul. Any girl sitting with me who gets solicited & says “I’ll be right back” won’t find me again. But I don’t tie them up long & I tell them when you’re ready to dance say so & we’ll go. It’s a mutual respect for each other’s time thing. Talk can be fun, but I’m there for action and I’m a steady income stream if they play it right, but not if they don’t. Somehow it works.

I’ve only had it happen with 2 girls in 20+ years (as far as I remember). One forgettable one-time accident, but the other girl was a frickin’ artist and I sought her time after time for maybe 3-4 years. She could play me like a fiddle, edge & back off, and repeat, then blow the load shortly after I’d say “last song for today.” I always wore a condom, was polite (she wasn’t all that personable, but rewarded respect), gave a decent but not large tip ($30 later $40 on top of dance cost), and worshipped her incredible body. She never cracked under my requests & enticements for more mileage. “I don’t do more & you seem happy with what I do; plenty of other girls here.” So I guess I’m outside your categories, but only because I found the LDK Empress of the Universe.

I too try lots of clubs & dancers, so I’ll chat until they prove it’s not worth my time, then it’s off to do business. Those ‘em who prove funny or interesting get repeat business (I don’t believe in long lockdown chats on any given visit, if I like the girl I want to give her time to make $).

Rules? We don’t need no stinking rules! That said: “I require guys to take their pants off completely. I’m a squirter and I won’t pay for dry cleaning.” Too bad that girl was at TJ’s in Stanton for only about 10 days & never returned.

My favorite part of growing’ up Is when I’m sick & throw in’ up — The Dictators, “Weekend” off Go Girl Crazy

Some really excellent picks above. A couple less known players’ bests (IMO): Buck Dharma of Blue Oyster Cult, “Astronomy” on One Enchanted Evening (Live), and “Then Came the Last Days of May” on “On Your Feet…(Live)” Steve Hunter on Lou Reed’s “Rock & Roll Animal (Live), esp “White Light, White Heat”; and on Aerosmith’s “Train Kept A’Rollin’” (uncredited but true) Ritchie Blackmore, Made in Japan (Live) esp “Strange Kind of Woman” John Squire, Stone Roses, “Good Times” off Second Coming” Bill Nelson of BeBop Deluxe “No Trains to Heaven” off Axe Victim And the UFO pick above, could have said that one too.

She conned you, so no regrets. Just be sure to wave & flash your billfold every time you take her friend to VIP. Another lesson in “don’t pay for extras up front.”

SC: just put on your thick skin, dude. These “mean girls” love to talk among themselves. If your post gets approved & you get your free month, who gives a flyin’ F what they say?

Truth, for all the good it will do…. Both the article & Oldwhiteguy’s 10 Rules reflect life wisdom from the trenches. Esp those Rules, I’ve thought that stuff so many times as I reflect on strip club life. Well done. But the Dusty’s of our world have zero reading comprehension when it comes to this topic. “Yeah, but I’m ME!” those narcissists think, “Those rules don’t apply to ME.” Yep, good luck with that. That said, me & my career ATF (long retired now) have been platonic friends for nearly 20 years now. Haven’t paid her or seen her naked for 10, since she retired. But we stay in touch, hang out once or twice a year, have fun. Now that’s one in a million.

I’ve been there 3 times but never mongered; between an unknown legal system & the hustle inherent in locals seeing tourists, I just think it’s more hassle than it would be worth. I can monger at home for cheap & with confidence I get good value. Saw some hot women, though; Istanbul and in coast cities it’s very Western. Go east of Konya & you rarely see women on the street, it seems very traditional not cosmopolitan.

At the strip clubs: polo shirt over slick sweat pants (winter) or shorts (summer). Sneakers, since I am not getting bare foot flesh anywhere near a strip club VIP room floor. Around the house: Hef style silk pajamas & smoking jacket.

“Discrimination” is an evolutionary and inherently human behavior. You don’t eat stuff that looks or smells like that stuff that made you puke. You stereotype & act accordingly. “Race” is a factor you recognize in the memory bank of experience. How it impacts you is a matter of your experience & cognitive process. So I’d say yeah 3/10 is probably good for me too. I don’t think race is my main criteria for categorizing people: it’s probably demeanor, overt behaviors I find threatening, speech, dress, etc. Bad haircuts or other obviously unwise choices haha.

“Ask her if she does extras with any other customers. You should be safe if she says you are the only one.” That made me laugh. I hope it was as sarcastic as I took it. They ALWAYS say you are the only one. News flash: you aren’t. The big head says “never” exchange fluids in this manner. But sometimes the libido takes control. Being the first customer of the day is helpful psychologically, at least if the girl cleans herself. Going there at the end of shift is a bad call.

Muddy gives a good overview of the SoCal clubs. I’d say drive to COI, with a “rest stop” in Upland at Tropical Lei. The drive is dull, but you Euros (more so Germans) seem to dig deserts since you don’t have many. You may hit serious traffic in the middle of nowhere if Sunday or Monday, but likely 3-3.5 hours to Upland then another .7-1.0 to COI. TL is a straight up brothel but it’s a good time. (No booze in any nude club in CA, BTW.) Less GPS than Synn COI, but more trailer trash girls. In COI, Synn & Rhino are most popular and have best lookers. But holy shit, they ask high GPS prices & have shitty customer service skills; you need to be on your game AND be willing to take the loss and retreat to Paradise to pork a lesser (but often still good) girl for a better price. OC is an option; certainly better hotels & dining than COI-adjacent. Just drive .5 hour into Fullerton for a pleasant & reasonable cost places. Ecstasy is top lookers & cost; Sahara & Imperial & TJs are good, but hit & miss. For your plan, I think going on into LA is more trouble than it’s worth. Traffic, high prices, decaying environment, hassle after hassle. I second Muddy’s political rant: it is a hell hole these days, unless you have $ to burn. SF Valley could take you another day’s drive; it takes me 1.5-2 hr each way from LAX, 3 hrs more than once. COI to SFV can be 4 hrs. Only if you prefer sitting in traffic to girls in your lap.

Off topic a bit, but I am told that private strippers are often good in states/cities where strip clubs suck due to over-regulation, LE/govt pressures, etc. A private stripper company with no place of business, no liquor license, etc., is typically regulated by a different govt bureaucracy than real strip clubs. So long as they keep it on the DL, it can be a “legit” beard for an escort service. In my second home state, I am told this is the case, and that I need to try “Sirens” dial-a-stripper-to-your-place service for FS with decent girls at decent prices (assuming you pass “not a cop” and “not SJG” tests).

If I ejaculate without BJ/FS, they get my standard “getting me off” tip regardless of the method(s) involved. That’s generally the price of one dance ($40 at most). Sometimes less, depending on if their attitude in dancing for me is more “toxic waste handler” than “all in nympho”. Usually the tit job girls are into it: “spray me, fuck my titties, cum on my tits baby, etc.” are music to my ears. Well, maybe not “etc.” LOL

If it’s AI, it’s garbage in, garbage out from using the pink site as your database. This is advice using the delusional image of “gentlemen’s clubs” pitched to the City Council or to wives & girlfriends. As noted above, if you want extras at a nude club, the “secret” is: 1) establish you aren’t Johnny Law, and 2) ask.

In the nude, no-alcohol club context in CA, there’s little upside compared to the time & money. Staff is mostly low wage and very transitory, entries are tracked by owners’ cameras so hard to comp entry fees. Extras are generally a basic feature & readily available, you don’t need staff help & girls answer yes or no for themselves when asked. It’s more like fast food: the non-dancer staff rarely impacts your meal. In 20+ years the only “staff” I know were 2 former CF ex-dancer now managers, and while they’re still fun to chat with they aren’t doing me any favors. But I can see OP’s points as valid in alcohol bars, low or variable mileage places, etc.

I religiously tracked experiences & expenses on a spreadsheet for about 5-6 years pre-COVID, when I was mongering 2-3 times a week due to life situations (lots of $, no GF, high work load). Wanted to make sure I wasn’t blowing my retirement funds & had perspective & value. I could see when to dial back, take hiatus, fall out of PLuppy Love. Very useful & eye-opening. Then COVID & changed situations; now I don’t need to keep that sort of record, I can just count ATM withdrawals from certain locations LOL.

LOL a fine article that reminds me of many “upside” experiences of my own. Absolutely more downside or neutral times, but when the thunder is flowing it’s worth it 50x. You, sir, are a true PL in the highest sense.

Oddly (for a guy who grew up there), I see more AA dancers in Orange County than in L.A. County. Imperial Showgirls in particular. In L.A. County, Rio on Fig has many. Synn & Rhino COI tends to cater more to white & Latino guys with more money than sense, who seem to favor hot young & dumb Latinas. There’s a sprinkling of AA & mixed there, but usually with the long nails & other high-end beauty habits and “you get what you pay for” tudes. Synn North hills in the Valley sometimes has some good AA. But overall, try Atlanta.

My Miami Vice memory is how Sonny would frequently say to the low-level perp he was questioning “They’re going to LOVE you in prison…” (with a very “active verb” implication). A very effective persuasive argument, I felt.