About LDKs ... the good, the bad, and the sticky
Call.Me.Ishmael
Rhode Island
As usual, these are my opinions and thoughts. I'm expecting some debate and disagreement (especially since I'm not an LDK guy, except on two occasions long ago).
=== DO GUYS REALLY CUM IN THEIR PANTS?
Yes, absolutely. And though it's not a majority of strip club customers, the demographic is also larger than a handful. There are enough guys who LDK that it comes up semi-regular in forums like this. It's also popular to a degree that you'll occasionally see several guys get into lengthy online debates regarding the best LDK-friendly pants as well as best practices for containing or cleaning up the resulting wet mess.
=== WHY DO GUYS LDK?
Well, the mechanical and anatomical reasons are obvious... friction on your naughty bits. This section is more to talk about awareness and intent.
There are two types of guys who LDK: (1) guys who go to the club specifically to LDK, and (2) those who do not seek an LDK but it happens anyway. Yes, there are guys who sit somewhere between those two positions, but most lean one way or another.
Let's talk about group #1 first (guys who want LDKs). It can vary, but most guys who are into LDKs do it for reasons ranging from it being the "cheapest nut" to wanting to blow a load without the STD risk. Related to that, there's a fair number of LDK guys who have wives and girlfriends. For them, LDKs also provide a means to not take an STD home to their partner. There's also a segment of these guys who tell themselves that LDKs do not qualify as cheating on a partner.
[Personal opinion... that's some bullshit; if you're hiding your sexy fun time from your partner, then you're cheating.]
Group #2 includes guys with no intention of nutting in their pants, but they found a dancer who rubs them (literally) the right way. There's not a lot to say about these guys, except they're the most likely to show up here with questions ranging from "Am I monster?" to "Can I keep doing this?"
=== IS IT A BAD THING?
Opinions vary and are sometimes contentious. Generally speaking, it's not a bad thing under most circumstances. That said, you very often see other customers throw shade at LDK guys for glorifying premature ejaculation, being "weird" (as if there's a lot of 'normal' in a strip club), etc.
It is not a bad thing if (1) you keep your mess contained (no dancer loves a surprise wet spot), and/or (2) warn the dancer before a dance that it might happen, and/or (3) warn the dancer during a dance if it's about to happen. If you can't accomplish this, then (depending on the dancer) prepare to apologize and tip more.
It is absolutely a bad thing if you're one of those guys who intentionally does not keep his mess contained and gets off on the furtive, sneaky nature of a surprise wet spot. These guys get an extra jolly from seeing a dancer realize what happened and her being upset by it. Don't be one of those guys. All of those guys are assholes.
=== WHAT DO DANCERS THINK?
Well, according to many dancers posting online, any guy who LDKs will be universally hated by all dancers, beaten within an inch of their lives, and then thrown out of the club and banned for life. Simultaneously, according to many LDK guys posting online, most dancers are proud and happy to provide this service and regard LDK guys and their favorite and best customers.
Predictably, there's a lot of confirmation bias happening with both viewpoints, and the truth is in the middle. In reality, many dancers either don't care or are mildly annoyed at most. They perhaps don't love it, but it's low on the list of things that bothers them about a customer (as long as they get paid). But there are some dancers who don't like it at all and will create a loud scene. If you can't keep your mess contained, then you will find one of those dancers eventually, and it won't be great.
Of course, this is a moot point if you've talked to the dancer about this happening and them noticing.
=== IS AN LDK AN EXTRA?
There's no answer that works for both customers and dancers. Many dancers will say "yes." Many customers will say "no." I'm sure that this is surprising to everyone... #sarcasm
Not having to pay extra for an LDK is why many guys go to great lengths to keep it under wraps. If you can keep it hidden, then congratulations; you're a cum-stain cat burglar. Dancers may not love this, but there's not much they can do about something they don't know about.
That said, if you do talk to or warn a dancer about an LDK that they'll likely notice, then be prepared for them to ask for more money (or not want it to happen at all). From my perspective, a dance that results in a nut (inside or outside of the pants) is a really good dance, and I tip extra for really good dances. How much? That's between you and the dancer.
=== SO... WHAT ARE THE BEST PANTS FOR AN LDK?
This shouldn't be a difficult question to answer. That said, based on the billions of threads just about this subject, material that is thinner and smoother will be best for LDKs. For a lot of guys, that's sweatpants or basketball shorts. If your club doesn't allow that type of dress (or if the hottest dancers in your club avoid the "sweatpants guys"), then golf pants or sweatpants that look more casual and less athletic will suffice. Also, some casual khakis and dress pants are not a bad choice.
Not blue jeans; not canvas work pants. Thick, coarse fabric isn't great for either the customer or dancer. Also, no zipper is better than zipper, if possible (because zipper "burn" isn't great). Finally, lean towards darker colors (unless you fly your cum-stain flag high and proud).
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Usually, it's because their dicks can't remember what a pussy feels like.
Good part about stripclubs is that there’s no awkwardness in kicking the girl out. You pay and leave.
Whereas when I fuck, I gotta take the girl out or spend some sort of time.
On another topic, and this is probably TMI over-sharing, for lappers, I have a regimen.
Pants. I wear Haggar Cool 18s brand pants. These are department-store-level business-casual slacks of a wonderful smooth silky feel, some kind of synthetic breathable cool material, with a plastic zipper, permanent pleats and crease and cuffs, machine-washable. Or, in rare summer weather, jogging-pants of that sheer-ish basketball-shorts material (presently I have a pair of DSG brand, f.e.). I've recently learned that many girls find the boys in sweatpants to be creepy and cheap-seeming so I may not retreat to the jogging pants unless I've reconfirmed their propriety for a given destination.
And, I wear a condom. I attend the men's room to put on a lubricated (on the inside) condom (such as Trojan brand Ecstasy) before getting lappers. Although the lube seems like it would be messy, in fact it doesn't really smear off on the inside of my undies at all, and what little of it gets on my fingers is undetectable and washes off with quick soap-and-water. I carry extras in one of my pockets and simply discard and apply a new one at urination. I drink hard-liquor only, never beer at strip clubs, so my intake of liquid volume-to-inebriation ratio is lower than many men's, and this reduces the number of visits to the loo and therefore the number of extra condoms necessary. Two or three is enough for the night, especially if I can remove and re-apply one in a toilet stall without hampering it. TMI? Told ya.
Anyway, it's not on there for contraception, duh. It's on there for slippy slidy lubrication. If you've never had a lapper with smooth silky clothing and a sliding condom then you may not understand how people achieve "LDK". But I'd bet that anyone with a condom on is likely to think "LDK" is more rather than less likely from a decent straddle full-contact lap-dance.
Finally, I laugh at 5footguy's "their dicks can't remember what a pussy feels like." This may indeed be true, LOL :). But I am paying no child support nor alimony and have literally never been required to attend a decorator's showcase to compare "window treatments."
On one extreme is a hot ROB who has you at full mast outside VIP, but then due to the ROBIsh behavior turns you off. There's nothing more infuriating or frustrating than a ROB.
On the other extreme is the CF/ATF who seems to say and do all the right things. The emotional fiddle play starts outside of the VIP with cuddling, flirting. Inside the VIP, its the right goldilocks balance of intense and seemingly limitless two-way contact with the right grind pressure at the right time. Its the unnerving and yet intoxicating feeling that an ATF can literally play your mind and body. A memorable LDK starts before the VIP and lasts after the VIP, because of the emotional engagement.
I wish there was more discussion and understanding around the emotional addictiveness of this fiddle play dynamic. I'm still lost as to whether LDKs are about carefully engineering control or about blissfully losing it.
I did got to clubs for several years without cumming, the problem was I was always wearing briefs that kept me in place. Then I read a post that made me realize nothing under my khakis would allow junior to go to town. I was basically a Mons monger, what used to be the best club (I thought) in Tampa. But after covid, and my re-discovering TUSCL, I realized I could get much more at places like OZ and Scarletts.
But I still like LDKs. I think the sleazy aspect of it appeals to me, that it's not supposed to happen, but does. And when I'm in my home base of Chicago, the clubs have no extras here (now I'm waiting for some one to post "yes it does!")
Dancers reactions to LDK? I've basically had three responses. They vast majority have no response, because they don't realize it. I hang down more than up, and when it happens, it's not too difficult to twist a bit and keep the girl from feeling that wet spot down the inside of my leg. I tell the girl "That's enough for now", pay her, and I'm out the door, they are none the wiser. Once, when I was wearing shorts, some spilled out onto the dancers leg. Boy, was she pissed! Very angry, even after a good tip on top of dance fees. But I've had a few that were PROUD of it, that they were able to make me cum! They're in the minority for sure, but some get off on the fact that, just by their dancing, they can get a guy off.