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8 years ago
@papi_chulo - originally it was spread out really well, lots of variety. Then I started to develop a couple favorites, then one clear favorite. So the last few trips it's been 80% on her.
Next time I'm going to pull that way back though. The return has... diminished. I'm not talking about extras either. I don't do those (I know, PL of the year award). I just don't like how've I spent in one night what she typically makes in a week, and the gratitude has gone down and almost feels like it's been replaced with an expectation.
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8 years ago
I'm thinking (hoping?) that it was a newbie phase. Whereas I was spending more and more each trip, probably chasing a rush, I've spent less in each of my last two trips, and plan to continue to do so until I get it to where I want it to be. Maybe around $1,000 or so. I only go every 4-6 weeks or so; couldn't sustain it if I was going weekly like some of you veterans!
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8 years ago
Last paragraph of my comment deleted, but to add: it just sucks because I've been to clubs in Phoenix and California where a got a lot more for my money (and so effectively was able to have a great time on about 1/5th my Vegas amount), but absolutely nothing does it for me like going to Vegas. It's honestly hard to explain.
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8 years ago
$3,500. Then a slew in the $2,000+ range.
I need to have a serious chat with justme62 about getting "Vegas out of my system", as all my spending is there and I'm not even a local.
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8 years ago
I don't do VIP at the Rhino in Vegas, but don't really go there much anyway. Palomino VIP is good, and Saphire has their private Skybox rooms. They are pricey.
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8 years ago
I'm trying to focus on the question, but can't get over people splitting tens.
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8 years ago
I hear a lot of you guys talking about BBBJ... is there no concern there? Are you only concerned about actual intercourse? Genuine question.
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8 years ago
I've been there. But it's not just a black girl thing. For me it's about any dancer you're not interested in. I've tried tons of different excuses, I've tried "maybe later", and everything else. I think the very best thing is just to say "no thanks". But be a gentleman about it.
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8 years ago
Ha, that's where I'm most popular as well. I've got a great reputation in my favorite club. Unfortunately it's as a big spender, so it's come at a cost. I think it's mostly just important to realize that it's all fake, they don't want you, they want your money. You're in charge; you decide how you spend and on who.
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8 years ago
This thread comes at a great time... I'm starting to feel the itch again of wanting to travel somewhere new to try a new club.
About 6 or so weeks ago I posted a thread asking everyone where the best place to travel in the western U.S. was, and overall Phoenix seemed to be the winner. I hopped a flight, visited two clubs out there and came back and left my reviews.
I think I want to open it up to the entire U.S. now... but this Top 100 list doesn't seem to be the answer. Is there a better list anyone knows of, or way to figure out even what city nationwide is a great bet to check out?
A dream hobby would be to try and fly to a different city once a month or so and see how the scene is out that way. I might start planning and budgeting.
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8 years ago
Lopaw, sounds like we might frequent the same place. About a 50/50 chance at least!
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8 years ago
Yes, the key is to do it early, like ime says. That way you benefit from it all night... and into future visits if you continue to go there.
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8 years ago
I do tip the staff. Part of it might because I go to Las Vegas, where there is a big tipping culture, and I'm flying in so every time I go it sort feels like I'm on vacation. I tip the door guy, and the bathroom attendant, both $20 each, and usually one other bouncer. I won't go into all the details, but I believe it has paid off.
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8 years ago
It depends on the night, and demand... but if there is a limo or a club car of any kind, they will always take you back, again for free... sometimes all the cars are out and they might tell you it'll be 30 minutes or so before they can take you. So you can either wait or just grab a cab/uber. The best thing to do is to start asking about a limo/car back about an hour before you know you want to leave, and some time in that time frame they will always have a car for you.
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8 years ago
I'm not an expert on much, but Vegas is my spot. I'm not a local, but I fly in once a month... twice when business is good. I'll probably go back this weekend or next... it's a spur of the moment thing for me.
I think these guys have made some great points already, I'll try to recap quickly on the clubs I'm familiar with:
Saphire: Huge club, alcohol served, topless only, very good looking dancers, more of that porn star type, fake boobs and all that. It's expensive. The most expensive. 'Tourist Trap' is a good way to describe it. I wouldn't go back of my own accord, it would take a group of friends insisting on going there, for me to go back.
Spearmint Rhino: Also a large club, and very good looking dancers. In fact, good looking dancers are easy to come by in most of Vegas, but yes, overall you do pay for it. I feel this place is slightly a better value than Saphire, but girls are still aggressive. Alcohol is served. Topless only. When I don't go to my favorite club because I want a change, I go here.
Palomino: This is my favorite club. It is fully nude, but also serves alcohol. It's a different vibe. Girls seem to be younger overall, and can be as young as 18. Pink wrist band means they are under 21, and there are plenty of pink wrist bands walking around. This is the absolute best pole dancing around, hands down, if that is important to you. I think it's fun. My theory is the reason their pole dancing is so good is because they are younger and more spy. Way less plastic surgery going on here, much more of that young college girl or girl next door feel. It's off the strip, but like all these places, the club will send a limo to pick you up if you call ahead, for free. Just don't be jackass... tip the guy.
Little Darlings: Also fully nude, but no alcohol. I've been here a few times, and it was... ok. I don't really love it. Also many young girls due to the no alcohol thing, so they can be 18. Hustle increases in this club a bit, compared to Palomino, but not as much as the first two.
I don't consider any other clubs worth mentioning, but I see that others disagree.
As far as extras, it's different, say than my recent trip to Phoenix. Those girls practically led the conversation by throwing out their menu of extras. I had never seen anything quite like it, although I did not participate.
In Las Vegas, my experience is that girls are leery to begin. I have only one time been hinted at for extras (or going back to my hotel room to be more specific) on a first encounter with a dancer. I later found out from others that she was sort of the resident prostitute of the bunch. As far as with others, the offers for extras have only come after I've built some rapport, usually not until a second visit. But it exists.
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8 years ago
Don't ask here, just ask your taxi driver. They are always pushing that crap on me.
"Take me to [insert club name here]"
"No, I'll take you to a massage parlor."
"No, club please."
"That's no fun, I'll take you too a massage parlor."
"Ugh, no."
Last time I was trying to get to the airport and a taxi driver insisted I had a quick 30 minutes for a massage parlor. I didn't.
For the record, I've never actually been to a massage parlor in Vegas, so I can't help you.
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8 years ago
I will give compliments, but I try to be conscientious of not giving the same compliments I'm sure they always get.
Never any of the naughty body parts (tacky, overdone), and I'm also very careful to not even use a more general term about looks such as 'beautiful'. I only use those general beauty type compliments with my favorite because, well, around her I can hardly help myself.
Anything personality or attribute-wise seems to go a long way. Man, these chicks really do love to hear that they are intelligent or good conversationalists, or anything along those lines, in my experience. It's just different than what I think they usually hear, and probably refreshing to hear that someone notices something about you other than your tits or ass.
But make sure not to qualify your compliment by adding "...for a stripper", or any other variation of that. "Your smart for a stripper" isn't going to garner you any points.
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8 years ago
My only bad experience was my last, and really it was 6 great hours that ended with a terrible 5 minute encounter with one dancer; so not really that bad.
My first ever club experience was 4 hours of lackluster VIP in Las Vegas that cost some $2,000+, but I don't even call that a bad experience, it was just a learning experience as I had no idea what the hell I was doing. I learned fast.
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8 years ago
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shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
No. But any where I moved couldn't possibly have worse clubs than where I live, which is why I've only been to a local club one time. I have to travel, but I don't mind because I don't think I'd like to run into anyone I know at a local club.
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8 years ago
I'm attached to a dancer. Pretty badly too. I think about her all through out the day. Damn, I thought I was the only one. I don't feel like this topic is ever talked about. I'm currently trying to decide if I should either quit seeing her altogether so it doesn't get worse, or just go with the flow and let whatever happens, happen. Leaning toward the latter. So far no drama though, so there is that.
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8 years ago
Not sure what it takes to get into the insiders club, but I think a meetup sounds fun. I've always got more time on my hands than I know what to do with.
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8 years ago
I have never been there, but I think that is how people describe Talk of the Town.
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8 years ago
You guys are either way pickier than I am, or I just set the bar low.. but I see 10's all the time. Maybe it's because I don't equate 10 to perfection... but instead just that I wouldn't change anything about that particular girl.
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8 years ago
You are not alone.
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8 years ago
I don't do extras, but certainly don't hold it against those who do. Just not my gig.