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7 years ago
Also I recommend you read the glossary. Sounds like you're looking for high mileage dances. mileage basically just means how much touching is allowed during the dance. The higher the mileage the more touching. Extras are anything that involves your dick coming out of your pants.
discussion comment
7 years ago
I was like you when I first started clubbing a few years ago expect I never knew it was possible (and common) to get extras in a SC. I originally only wanted to go once when I found out that my local club allowed full two way contact. I figured I'd get a few lap dances and squeeze some tits and be done. Then I got an unsolicited HJ in the VIP room that visit and have been hooked ever since. I started seeking extras and eventually got FS from several different dancers.
You can ask the dancer where you are allowed to touch her before the dance starts, some will even let you know ahead of time (you can touch me anywhere but my pussy, you can't touch me anywhere but don't put your fingers in my pussy, etc). You can also start off gradually and let your hands start to roam and shell stop you nicely once you've gone too far. Just start out touching her ass then slowly move your hands up your body till you get to your tits. Then gradually go down towards her pussy.
In regards to extras, doesn't hurt to ask but I'd suggest not bei explicit till you get more comfortable. I usually ask how much the VIP is and if they give me a price that's higher than the minimum I'll ask why she charges more. I've gotten responses such as "it's all inclusive and I have everything we need" while she showed me a condom (she didn't disappoint) and "I'll make you cum". I've also had dancers start dancing in the VIP room and then ask what I wanted to do as her hands rub my dick over my pants. I tel her she should take it out and then usually she'll ask if I'll tip her.
I've also gotten unsolicited extras from many dancers. I've had three of them give me a HJ in a standard lap dance booth. Two of them just did it on their own after a few songs into it, obviously I tipped them well. Then a third took my dick out and offered a specific price for a HJ which I agreed to.
I've also had one dancer give me a BBBJ with CIM completely unsolicited, she just started giving me the BJ and then I got close to finishing I asked her where she wanted me to cum, she said anywhere so I asked if I could finish in her mouth and she said yes. She didn't ask for anything extra but obviously I tipped her well.
discussion comment
7 years ago
I did it once just to cross it off my bucket list and it didn't disappoint. I went to the VIP room with two dancers at the same time. But like the other posters mentioned, you have to have the right type of dancers for it.
The two I took were friends (and I suspect were bisexual and hooked up OTC) and one day they mentioned I should take them both to the VIOnat once. I could tell by the vibe they gave off that it would be worth it. I also had gone to the VIP with one of the dancers previously and had a great time.
They did a great combination of playing with each other but also making sure I was the center of attention. They both took turns giving me a HJ/Titty fuck. I took turns playing with their tits and occasionally squeezed one tit on each of them at the same time. They also brought body oil into the VIO room, the only dancers that I've ever seen do that. This was still fairly early in my clubbing career so if this happened now I know I would have been able to get at least a BJ from them.
Of course the down side was it cost a lot. Obviously I had to pay both dancers but I also had to pay the house fee twice. Even though I was only back there for 15 minutes but paid the club fee for 30 minutes they must have figured that since I was using two dancers that hypothetically could have prevented some other PL from taking one of those dancers to the VIP.
discussion comment
8 years ago
@25 it's comments like that that keep the dancers off of TUSCL. Let's try not to scare them off.
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8 years ago
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Jascoimr.wonderful to single moms and college age girls...
$800 a session for my ATF. I know that's very high but it's OTC at her place. She gives a good GFE: cuddling on the couch while watching tv for a bit then FS that includes DFK, BBBJ and obviously sex (sometimes bareback). She also does an incredible job of making it seem like she enjoys giving the blowjob, love the eye contact she gives me. Same with the sex, she really acts like she's into it.
It is a lot, but I don't think I would do OTC for less than that.
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8 years ago
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shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
Madison Ivy (porn star)
Emily Ratajakowski
Jennifer Lopez
discussion comment
8 years ago
Sounds pretty awkward. Weird that the mother accused her daughter of looking like a prostitute yet she seemed to be aware that's exactly what she is.
On a side note, I thought that story was going in a different direction towards the end. I thought you were gonna say the mother showed up and wanted a threesome.
discussion comment
8 years ago
@JS Definitely, Gawker is a legend and I will never question the authenticity of his stories. They are legit.
discussion comment
8 years ago
@malort I agree, but this also wasn't just some random stripper. I've had an OTC relationship with her for over two years, obviously if she gave me something that would end our P4P relationship and a big chunk of income. I pay a lot so I really don't think she'd risk losing a great paying customer.
Not saying I'm positive she's clean but there's no indications that she isn't other than that she was a stripper at one point in time.
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8 years ago
Definitely yoga pants or any type of tight leggings. I love the liquid latex look leggings or the shiny latex leggings.
I've bought a few different pairs of yoga pants for my ATF to wear and took pics of her in them.
discussion comment
8 years ago
I've asked a few different strippers that I was a regular with and had gotten FS ITC and had their numbers.
For dancer A, I had texted her occasionally just making small talk and arranging my next visit with her to make sure she'd be working. One time I texted her after a visit and asked if she had any pics she could send me and that I promised I wouldn't show anyone. She sent me an extreme closeup of her tits. I asked for a little zoomed out and she sent a couple more with her face cut off. Then I asked if she could send a couple that included her tattoos on her hips and she sent those as well. The pictures were taken specifically for my request and not just random pictures she had in her phone. She also sent me a few of just her face.
Dancer B I had only seen once ITC but got FS. She had the body of a pornstar, (but small/minimal tattoos) slim/fit frame but DD (maybe even bigger) fake tits that looked great and get even better. Even though I had only scene her once she gave me her number so I texted her a few days later and asked for a few pics and again said I wouldn't show anyone. She sent me a pic of her tits while they were soapy while she was in the shower. I asked for a couple more and she sent me a zoomed out pic of her topless standing against a motorcycle and then a generic pic of her in the club in an outfit. Got to see her ITC a few more times before she disappeared.
I've gotten lots of pics from my ATF. We texted a lot and met up weekly for quite a while OTC but she never sent me any pics, probably cause we met up so much she get we didn't need to. Once I started spacing the meetings out more I started asking for pics to hold me over to our next meetup. She usually gave some excuse about being busy (seriously how hard is it to run into the bathroom and take a pic of your tits?) but eventually she sent me a couple pics of just her tits. Occasionally she would also send me pics that she had in her phone when I asked. I could tell these were pics she sent to other customers as some of them were taken in the dressing room.
Then on one visit I asked my ATF if I could take a few pics of her on one of my visits. At first she said no cause she wanted to lose some weight first but then she said if I just did her tits and not her full body and face she'd be ok with it.
The first time I took pics of her I took a few of just her tits and then a zoomed out that included her face. She wanted to review the pics first so I quickly deleted the ones with her face so she didn't see them. Go thing about the iPhone is those deleted pics are so easy to recover.
Over the next few visits I took more pics each time and got a little braver with the pics. One visit I took a few of me squeezing one of her tits. The next visit I took video of me squeezing one of her tits while her face was visible. I took some of her ass too, some pics she was fully nude, others she had on sexy yoga pants or booty shorts.
Not sure if she new I was taking videos or just though I was taking pics of me squeezing her tits but she never asked to review any of them. I love those short vids. I asked once while she was giving me a BBBJ if I could take a pic of it but she said no way so I didn't push it any further. Obviously I've never shown the pics to anyone and never will.
discussion comment
8 years ago
@vikings Well said, that's basically what I was trying to say.
Obviously two way is way better. But every once and a while you can find a dancer at a one way club that still gives great dances, even if your hands can't roam.
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8 years ago
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shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
For Lopaw: I'd pay for her to get an hour VIP with the dancer of her choice.
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8 years ago
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shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
For Gawker: a private jet with a pilot so he could fly down to Florida to see his ATF whenever he wants (assuming she she is living down there).
For JS: weed, since that seems to be his favorite accessory when doing OTC.
For Lap Dance King: I was gonna say those liquid lap dance pants but he doesn't need them. I'd get LDK added to the list of new words that get added to the dictionary every year with the definition along the lines of cumming in your pants during a lap dance.
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8 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
The guilt Is understandable. Granted this isn't for nearly as much money but on a few occasions I told a dancer that I was a regular of that I was gonna get lap dances or do a VIP with her a little later only to find some other new dancer that I had to get dances from and thus not getting dances from my regular.
You may feel bad but remember, most of these dancers would do the exact same thing to you. For all you know, when she was making her "goodbye round" if someone would have offered her more than you did for OTC she probably would have left you without saying anything.
But I know what you, it's different when you do it to a favorite dancer cause you risk hurting your P4P relationship.
discussion comment
8 years ago
@jackslash Not much worse than when a dancer won't take no for an answer. I had gotten a couple dances from a dancer on one particular visit. She wasn't really my type but I got a couple dances cause she had nice tits but thewere mediocre. On my next visit she immediately came up to me and asked if I wanted to go to the VIP with her. I said no thanks and then she asked if I wanted some regular dances. When I declined again she said there was room to negotiate and we could work out a deal. I declined again but she still wasn't taking a hint. She was trying to lay a guilt trip on me but it didn't work.
discussion comment
8 years ago
No other options at the moment, sourrounded by one way contact clubs.
discussion comment
8 years ago
I've been pretty lucky and haven't gotten completely ripped off in a VIP. There was one dancer that was a 10 that I regulary got dances from at an extras club. She gave a good grind and let me squeeze her tits in the regular lap dance room but she wouldn't let me suck them and she kept changing positions before I could LDK. I knew she wasn't an extras girl but I went with her for a VIP anyway. I asked her so it's not like she was a rob. I figured she wouldn't give even a HJ but maybe I'd be able to LDK. I didn't LDK but at least I got to suck on her gorgeous tits.
There were two other tranches that didn't necessarily rip me off but didn't do exactly what they said they would. They told me if I went to the VIP with them I could titty fuck them and cum all over their tits. Well both dancers let me titty fuck them but they also made me wear a condom. So while it made for easy cleanup I didn't get to cum on their tits. I think the first dancer figured she talk me into a Covered BJ so that's why she made me wear a condom. When I was with the second dancer I asked part way into the titty fucking if we could have sex. She said no but then proceeded to slide her pussy along my dick while I had the condom on. Kind of odd she would do that but not let me fuck her. Not that it makes a difference but I think she's a lesbian, at least according to her instagram she is.
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8 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
My ATF texted me once an hour before we were gonna meet up for our usual OTC session. She was very emotional about how how she during think she was doing a good job raising her boys as a single mom of 3 and how unfair it was that her kids dad didn't care about them. Of course I reassured her, as I was driving to her place I figured the sex was either gonna be bad cause she was emotional and wasn't in the mood to fake being into it or it was gonna be even better sex than normal cause I listened to her and reassured her the best I could. I'm glad to say it ended up being the even better sex :)
discussion comment
8 years ago
This is unprecedented, for possibly the first time ever, al of us on TUSCL al the the same girl is hot, at least so far.
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8 years ago
@JS So I'm assuming your wouldn't pay to fuck her, but what if it was free, would you fuck her then?
Just trying to figure out if you find her attractive enough to fuck. If you do then I'd still say we are al in agreement cause we would all fuck her, even if some us find her hotter than others.
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8 years ago
I agree that a fully nude dancer theoretically should be better than just topless, especially if you're getting a lap dance. But if she's topless but wearing a sexy thong it leaves a little bit to the imagination. You start to wonder and anticipate what her pussy looks like. Is she shaved? Landing strip? Neatly trimmed? Inner or outer labia? Your mind starts to wonder and makes you want her more.
I've occasionally taken pics of my ATF nude. One time after we finished fucking she put on tight tank top that she ripped intentionally on the ready area. So as she was sitting next to me her nipples were popping out, it was one of the sexiest things I've even seen. Even though I've seen her nude more times than I can count, I was more turned on by her than ever with her dressed like that.
discussion comment
8 years ago
I do too, but not every club is full contact. Just wondering how common it is at one way contact clubs.
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8 years ago
For me a few things need to happen:
1. Majority of the time it's had to have been at least 3 or 4 days since my last orgasm, the more time in between the better
2. I usually LDK while wearing boxers and khakis, but I've also LDK in jeans before too but it's easier in khakis
3. The girl obviously needs to be attractive and have at least B cup tits.
4. Ass size surprisingly isn't important, the dancer I've LDk'd from the most is a spinner with a tiny ass.
5. I need to be able to grab her tits and ass, which isn't a problem at my favorite club.
6. Its all about finding a good rythym. Some girls are great at grinding but if there's no rythym it's not gonna happen.
7. Then what puts me over the edge to LDK is the feeling of her grinding on me with her bare pussy, the visual look of it and the dancer, squeezing her tits and ass, and then just thinking how amazing it is that this hot dancer that I either hardly know or literally may have met less than half an hour ago is completely nude on top of me and grinding while she lets me grope her (and encourages groping). Of course it also helps when they tell me they want me to cum which is fairly normal.
discussion comment
8 years ago
If you were comparing the average stripper to the average civilian, it's a stripper by far (otherwise why would all of if be paying for extras?) But you're not talking about the average stripper/escort and the average civi. You're talking about a DS and DC, so they are basically equivalents of each other. In this scenario I think it would be equal.
The DS is gonna wanna as good of a job as she can possibly be to ensure she keeps you as a customer and ensure she has a steady income. And the DC is gonna wanna please you in every way possible because she loves you and is truly attracted to you.
I think we can all agree though that the average stripper gives far better BJs and FS than an average civilian. Every time I've gotten a BJ from a civi it's just basic sucking, they don't lick my shaft, look at me in the eye the way a pornstar looks at the camera, etc.