Awkward situation
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Both of these women have been in and out of detox so often they know which ones have the best food, know counselors by name, etc.
The ex-dancer was a full fledged 9 when I first met her, but between her sedentary life and her health issues, she's lost some appeal but is still a solid 7. I recently had made arrangements to see her and she said she had a lot of hotel points and could get a free room if I'd pony up $100 for crack. I got to her house and she was dressing and the mother immediately called her favorite dealer, placed an order, then turned to me to tell me that her daughter got a real good deal on the hotel room for us. Then when her daughter came into the room the mother accused the daughter of looking like a prostitute. They argued about what she was wearing, the dealer showed up and transacted business, and we left. We got to the hotel about 5:00 and did what comes naturally for a couple of hours. We then talked and horses around and I told her I had to leave by 9:00. She called her mother, asked her to come to the hotel, bring her toothbrush and PJ's and they'd stay the night just as I was leaving, Mom arrived. Asked me if I had a good time with her daughter.
Now, is it me or is this a fucked up situation? The mother (and I'm old enough to be her father) seems to be totally accepting of the fact that I spent 4 hours at the hotel fucking and sucking with her daughter. I find it awkward as hell and told the dancer that and she started crying, saying I was mean and hurtful. Maybe just old fashioned.
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On a side note, I thought that story was going in a different direction towards the end. I thought you were gonna say the mother showed up and wanted a threesome.
I'm serious, I would not know most of the people you post about. I just wouldn't.
Happy New Years!
SJG
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How did she get the hotel points? Has she been fucking the life guard at the hotel pool?
SJG - while I respect your right to stay away from drugs I just wish you could say so without sounding " holier than thou". There are many very attractive dancers who are addicts and are in need of $$ to support their habit. It seems like such a waste to bypass their entreaties for companionship, succor, and a meager contribution in exchange for sexual favors.
I've been staying away from druggies since I was in jr. high school. I don't want to live like they do. I want my wits about me.
And yes, there are lots of attractive dancers who are drug addicts, but there are also lots who are totally clean. And these latter are the ones I get along with, and they seem to open up right away to me, when they see that I must not be someone who uses drugs, or alcohol, or tobacco either.
And of exchanging for sexual favors, sex is only part of a formula for relating to someone. As I see it, it needs to be with someone you actually get along with. And of course I would never want to be subsidizing someone's drug habit.
Paying a girl's rent is what lets her be there all dolled up at the club. It keeps her out of FIRE ( Finance, Insurance, Real Estate ). Always happy to see my money go that way. But to drugs, no never.
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Gawker, I think it's fucked up for sure. It would have been much better for you if mom had not shown up until after you left. And there's nothing wrong with being old fashioned. Keep fucking girls much younger than you are, that's as old fashioned as it gets. And lots of fun too.
Some of the posts in the past from gawker seem more awkward than this...
If he ever wrote a book, it would be a certified best seller. Although many would probably consider it fiction. But we know you can't make that shit up...
His decisions aren't always the wisest but you have to factor in what he has to deal with at home everyday, which would make his decisions a little more understandable.
He certainly is at the top of my list of TUSCLers I would like to personally meet.
Love you Gawker
So are you just in dive bars or upscale ??
Is your location that bad ?
Always love your stories keep it up and live fast my friend...u inspire me
I really enjoy his out look on life and the light he shines on this
I agree and I should learn myself not to pass up such great opportunity and even dare I say chance for mutual ministry
God bless you brother
Nasty cycle
At least we can do for them is make sweet sweet love to them ; b
Second, I'm with san_jose_guy on the drugs. No disrespect and I certainly don't mean to judge you or anybody else. Just a personal opinion on my part. I know a lot of strippers use serious drugs (i.e., illegal drugs other than marijuana) but I just don't want to be around it. One vice is enough for me! ;)
Third, the mom situation is seriously fucked up. But it almost seems like the mom wanted you to say something about her daughter's performance. Which is even more fucked up!
Keep the crazy stories coming! ;)
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I also realize that I'm a victim of Sir Save-a-ho syndrome and desperately want to see her break out of her cycle before I leave this mortal coil. I've taken her to detox innumerable times, I've brought her into my home to get her off the streets and have made a fool of myself trying to "help" her. She's now about 50 days sober, still is wracked with urges, but is doing a decent job of staying away from her druggie friends.
Her step-mom finally convinced me that giving money to her when she's using is nothing but enabling. She has convinced me that she has strong feelings for me and after living with her lies, deceptions, and half truths for years ( it's in the addict's job description) I believe her when she says she loves me, just not as a lover. I'm not blind to the fact that having sex with me is not as stimulating for her as a hot guy her own age - I know the difference between fantasy and reality. But when she sends me a hand written letter stating that I've had a positive impact upon her life which will last long after I'm gone, I know that the fact that I've generally treated her with respect, that I've helped as well as enabled, and that I've been a factor in her beginning to think that she's not a piece of shit but is one who deserves better in life.
My point? I'm not necessarily a better person than she. I started life with nothing and had a career I'm proud of. She's made some bad choices in her life and dealt with the consequences. Time to move forward..
But the vast majority of the survivors have zero idea that this is the case.
SJG