Comments by iknowbetter

Quality vs quantity is as important as simple ratio. How many of those 35 were you willing to spend $$$ on?

Appx 10 pm. And yes, I felt like I was walking the gauntlet past both bars, where the girls were waiting for the customers and cash to arrive.

Not for me. But we don’t judge. You do you.

To follow up @Dolfan, this weekend is Miami F1. Lots of super-model level talent all over Miami and Miami Beach this week. Not sure if this is bringing temporary traveling talent to the local strip clubs, but like Super Bowl, the girls are here to be hostesses at off site events and parties, and to take care of super wealthy international F1 fans. I expect the Miami clubs like Tootsies will be packed.

Doesn’t sound like my kind of place, but something about servers doing laps is really hot. Maybe because servers and bartenders are often the best looking girls in the club.

Are you saying that you had your dick out and got to completion in the $25 communal lap dance room? This happens routinely at Cheetah Hallandale, but never Pompano. The room monitors are too aggressive at Pompano, and the girls will always say “we need to go to VIP to do that”

I can only view this through the lens of a parent with two kids currently attending college. Thank god their semesters are over and they are both home for the summer. All I’m thinking is these asshole protestors had better be gone by football season because they’re taking up prime tailgating real estate. Fuck your 1st Amendment. This is the SEC.

If you’re looking to bag a “9”, you probably won’t find it at DD. So I agree with the others - start at BT, then go to Cheetah (where you’ve got the best shot of finding your “9”). Then if you have any time and $ remaining, hit DD last for sloppy 3rds with a chubby senorita. All 3 clubs are within less than a 1 mile radius, so you won’t blow a lot of time moving from one to another.

…and if you’re popping blue pills at 30, you might have a medical condition that you might want to get checked out.

With an 8 hour window you’re going to do either Pompano or Miami - not both. Otherwise you’ll be spending 2 of your 8 hrs on I-95. However, at 30 (and presumably single) you are too young to become a PL. You should be out getting civilian pussy for free instead of having to buy it in a strip club. Leave the paid pussy for us old married guys.

As the originator of this thread, I’m happy to report that my kids have been more concerned about their exam schedules and finishing their end of semester papers and projects, and found all this protest nonsense to be nothing more than an eye roll-worthy distraction. Not to mention, our governor (like him or not) has kept protests to a minimum on Florida campuses.

@Gamma makes a good point. It just occurred to me that most kids in college today were born after 9/11/01. Islamophobia is real for those of us who are old enough to be scared of these people. Jews aren’t flying airplanes into tall buildings in the US.

Thanks for the advice, Rick. To Book Guy, no shame in not knowing how many schools are in the Ivy League. I just realized there are 14 schools in the Big 10.

Well done. I admire a girl who knows her best angles.

^sounds like the perfect Friday

Responding to @25 - High end new construction in south Florida is something of an anomaly. Buyers in this market aren’t affected by mortgage rates, and if they are, they know that their home will appreciate at a rate 2X whatever they’re paying in mortgage interest.

Definitely inflation. At that cost you can get better value at Cheetah Pompano.

I turned to look but it was gone. I cannot put my finger on it now, The child is grown, The dream is gone.

I typically wouldn’t watch a girls college basketball game, but like many others, I watched Iowa’s last 3 tournament games this past week, and found them to be very entertaining and well played. Actually more entertaining than many of the men’s tournament games. Hopefully the girls game can sustain at this level (after the current stars move on to the WNBA), because there is a big drop off in talent after the top 4 or 5 teams.

I wouldn’t try looking for extras in a non-extras club, or in a jurisdiction where extras are prohibited and enforced. The risk and likelihood of ROB is extremely high.

Most girls are trying to get $20 for table dances now, but as far as I know they are still officially $10. So you need to clarify beforehand. Also Pompano is in Southeast Florida, not SWF.

I’m still fascinated by this Agraphia. The writing is exactly as if it had been spoken by someone who has suffered a stroke. Right down to the strange punctuation.

Spot on impersonation. But not my type.

I enjoyed reading your review. Well done, mate! It sounds like you had a good time, but $50 cover for Thursday afternoon is pretty steep. Most South Florida clubs have $0 cover before 7 pm, and then max out at $20.

I wouldn’t necessarily relate door vultures to ROBs, but I generally want to look around a bit before hooking up with a dancer. Occasionally this backfires on me when I realize the first girl who immediately approached is the hottest one there, but this is usually not the case. It is more common that I see the girl I want when I’m on my way out of the club.

Possibly a club ad, but not entirely inaccurate. However some more specific intel would help to validate.

Port a potties? Really? Sounds disgusting. Where does the troll set up?

I agree with Jimmy. Typically girls at Hallandale trend thicker (while I’m looking for spinners). Perhaps you were too early.

Some things are better left as a fantasy. I have been duped into the 2 girl VIP on a few occasions, and it is always disappointing and a waste of money.

You definitely had a blast. It seems that $100 plus the number of songs has been pretty well established as the going rate for the Hallandale hand massage. Although a few will still accept the cost of the dances - but you need to discuss this in advance.

As if there’s something wrong with being over 40, or a portly senior citizen?

When she swings by the bar and grabs a handful of napkins on the way to the lap dance.

I tend to agree with Dolfan - there’s usually a reason why clubs don’t get reviewed often. They’re not popular because they’re a waste of time. However, there are notable exceptions. Deans Gold in North Miami comes to mind. Deans is under-reviewed, but in my opinion, a top tier club with top tier talent.

You gotta be careful getting that drunk and looking for sex in Pattaya. You might just end up with a hot girl who’s better hung than you are - not that there’s anything wrong with that, just saying.

Definitely not a legit review. Too many inconsistencies. “Not much goes on in lap dance” is definitely not accurate for DD.

She’s a beautiful young athlete, but I feel really creepy rating her out of context. I’d need to see her on a pole.

$175 / 15 min could be the quoted day shift rate, but expect that you’ll end up spending $250+ all in. I’ve come to expect to spend $350 for top performers.

Thanks for the review. No fluke. This has been exactly my experience at this club on afternoon / early evening visits. I can’t understand how this club remains open.

Impressive.

@JsmesSD - with those expectations?

I have to agree with Hank. I’m not a fan of the genre, but Billie Eilish is a transformative artist, and having heard her on interviews, she just might be a genius. To Muddy’s point, Eilish started intentionally wearing oversized, baggy clothes once people started noticing the fact that she was growing into a couple of DD’s. She wants people to notice her musical talent, not her boobs.

On the plus side, not having bookmarks forces me to look at reviews from other cities and clubs that I otherwise wouldn’t give a shit about.

Sorry you got ROBbed, but this one’s on you. Just because the first girl was willing to give you a HJ for the price of a dance doesn’t mean they all will. I have written about this exact situation happening to me at Cheetah Hallandale. It’s been said too many times on this forum - it is essential that you agree to expectations and total cost before going to the room. Especially if you’re negotiating through Google Translate. Also it’s not necessary to throw ones at a dancer. It makes you look petty.

If I have my shirt off or completely opened, I would actually prefer full torso to torso contact. Instead of licking my nips, I love it when she presses her nips to mine.

Have gotten this occasionally in the Miami market. Cost wise it’s on par with a HJ. Actually quite enjoyable since it’s uncovered, compared to CBJ or CFS.

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Thanks for the review. Deans is an often overlooked Miami club with quality talent. Your review was kind of rambling and incoherent but fun to read. I can relate to the 5%.

I assume costs quoted in CAD? Also do dancers speak English or only French?

@artie- you’re not alone with a wife tracking your every move. I think it’s pretty typical. You can only use the “phone ran out of charge” excuse so many times. Yes, life was a lot simpler before all this wonderful technology. Whenever I complain to my wife about not wanting to be tracked, she responds with “why? Are you going somewhere you’re not supposed to be?” Or “I’m only doing this because I’m concerned about your safety”. So yeah, I use the client meeting excuse too. I just wish they put strip clubs in office buildings downtown. I don’t have too many clients working out of a grimy industrial park near the airport.

Clearly Blah is asking for a friend. “I just found out about women getting turned on by male strippers” sounds a lot like when someone says “l heard about this new website called only friends or only fans, or something like that where girls sell naked pictures of themselves”, as if they know nothing about it.

Now that you’ve solved the smell dilemma, what do you do about the Find My Friends (or find my device) app, or a car that reports its location through an app?

Some of us actually lived through - and survived Miami in the ‘80’s - and have the stories (some true, most embellished) to tell about it. My parents sent me “up north” for college and graduate school for most of the decade, but Miami was really wild in those days, and yes I still have a few Sonny Crockett outfits, although I’d never fit into them these days.

Hallandale has one of the more reliable day shifts in the So Fla market, but talent can be hit or miss. OP obviously was there on a good day. The $100 HJ in the $25 non-private room has become the norm, but it’s important to discuss the “all in” cost beforehand to avoid a dispute after-the-fact.

Welcome to south Florida. I have never understood the appeal of cartoonish implants, but this does seem to be the norm these days at DD. I have not experienced the heckling by DD staff, but I agree that this would be annoying.

Thanks for the review. Porthole had completely fallen of my radar - and you just reminded me why.

If the Dolphins game is not simulcasted locally, it might be a good excuse to go to Tootsies.

Nightmare. But somewhere, someone has a story about a dancer getting a case of the shits during a lap dance.

Thanks for the review, but what’s the parking situation?

@azdd - I have those same Costco shorts, and yes, the thin lightweight material is great for lap dances. However, black is not a good color since it shows dried snail tracks and dried LDK overspray. Gotta go with the tan or khaki.

There are actually lots of excellent female guitarists, but as OP mentioned, female guitarists are judged by their looks well as their musical talent, compared to male guitarists who no one cares what they look like. I actually think Sophie Lloyd’s beautiful tits detract from her musicianship.

Surprised you didn’t get thrown out. Getting a HJ to completion is routine at Cheetah Hallandale but not Pompano, where the monitors are more diligent and the dancers are pitching for VIP. I’ve had dancers shut down for showing the kitty in the Pompano LD room.

Like any of us would ever have a shot…

Welcome back Papi! But since when have you been looking for cute spinners?

@Papi - Great to see you back on the forum! You have been missed by many who appreciate your in depth insight.

^ is that $CAD or $US ?

If you’re staying in the north Miami area, you might want to check out Deans Gold. Expensive, but usually top tier talent. Scarlett’s has top talent, but is a low extras club. If you’re looking for “extra spicy lap dances” try Cheetah Hallandale. You will be amazed by what goes on there in a communal lap dance room.

Thanks for the review, but it told us basically nothing. How did this get though our strict panel of adjudicators?

How is it possible to sound creepy on a site devoted to strip club perverts?

@bum Was that 3 times with the same woman? Most of the time, the girl only gets one chance to say no. I proposed twice, but with 2 different girls: 1) my just out of college we didn’t know any better, and 2) my midlife crisis babymama. I do not regret either.

From my backyard I see pool, sea wall, dock, Biscayne bay, and the Miami skyline. I’m living in a house that my grandfather built so it’s not quite up to today’s standards or expectations of waterfront Miami real estate, but the view is pretty fucking awesome.

I’m not proud if this, but I have occasionally wasted a dancer’s time with the implied expectation of spending big $$$ in VIP, and after hanging out for awhile get up and leave the club. This might not be “getting over”, but it’s a shitty thing to do.

¿Cuanto por una mamada?

If youre looking for companionship or GFE, you’re probably better off going the SA route. If you just want to fuck a hot stripper then you really don’t need more than an hour or so for OTC or an escort - unless you really like hanging out with a stripper after you’re done fucking. For me, I want her gone.

Young, single guys need to be chasing civilian pussy, despite the fact one can make the argument that paying for it directly is less expensive in the long run. But for married guys, civilian pussy is not an option and the 60 minute strip club romance becomes a reality.

Great review. RJ2 is definitely playing at the high limit tables. I have always found club management to be much more accommodating and flexible in the early afternoon when the club is still empty - especially when you’re the only one throwing money around. Good call on not taking 4 girls to VIP. That would have been a total waste of money.

I feel like we have this EV discussion every month or so. I’m not sure how EVs became political, but I own 1 Tesla S and 2 ICE vehicles. Do I have to pick one team or the other? I am really happy with both types of vehicles. My Tesla is the perfect commuter car, my SUV is perfect for taking long trips or for hauling lots of people and stuff, and my wife is currently driving a ICE, but her next car will most likely be an EV. I spent $150 to get a 50 amp 240 volt outlet installed in my garage. It takes about 4 hrs to charge my Tesla at home appx once a week. My FPL bill is already $650/month, so any increase in electricity consumption is negligible.

Unfortunately I find that strip club sex is almost always unfulfilling. But that hasn’t stopped me from doing it.

Not bad for the middle of your work day. Hope you were able to expense it!

From time to time whenever I lose money on an investment, I tell myself that I would have much rather thrown that money away at a strip club, where I’d at least have fun losing it. Kind of puts things in perspective.

I tend to agree with the assertion that strip club experiences back in the 90’s were a little more meaningful than they are today. Just like 90’s porn were real full length movies with good lighting, multiple camera angles, wardrobe and makeup, and attempts at a plot line, with corny dialogue, compared to today’s porn which is all basically low budget amateur sex scenes shot on an iPhone. Today’s strip club experience is about the same - no real stage show or feature dancers, just go to the club, find a dancer to go fuck, then leave.

Thanks for the thorough review. Lots of info, and you did a great job capturing the inconsistencies of the club month to month, day to day, even shift to shift. This unpredictability is what makes this hobby fun. Sorry about your Pats (not really).

@Blah Are you secretly my wife?

I agree with Hank. Offer there’s no rhyme or reason for why a club is busy or dead at any particular day and time, or why sometimes the talent is great, and sometimes not. It’s really random, but part of what makes this hobby so fun. Like Forrest Gump says, you never know what you’re going to get.

“… I honestly felt I was in a Havana whorehouse.” Is that really a bad thing?

@Adzz got me thinking. People always ask me why I’m still working. I’m not quite at “retirement age” yet, but kids are grown, house is paid off, and sustainable income streams from investment properties are providing sufficient income to live on. But I just realized the reason I’m still working is to get me out of the house, and to provide cover for hitting the south Florida strip clubs and messing around with occasional SA girl.

I see this a lot, and I have seen girls actively avoiding eye contact and making themselves appear unavailable. I have never understood this, and probably never will.

So you were walking around the club carrying a spent condom? The Cuban girls in South Florida wrap the condom up with baby wipes during the clean up process, and take care of the disposal.

What is a “ trucker stop strip club” type of dancer?

Yes. You got the typical DD experience. These girls are pros, and highly efficient. Get in, get off, and get out quickly.

I may have shard this before, but I dated a United flight attendant back when they were all female and mostly young, single and hot. Sadly I rarely see a decent looking flight attendant these days. The best part about about my experience was the fact that there were 4 of them who shared a 2 bedroom apartment - since they were all rarely home at the same time. But when they were, these girls were completely comfortable sharing a bed with one another and they were also very uninhibited about walking around the apartment nearly naked. I actually think the roommates went out of their way to get noticed whenever I was over. I was never successful in scoring a 3 some, but I did fuck one of the other flight attendant roommates when my girl was out of town.

Unfortunately if they have to pay someone to do it, it’s a job. Otherwise it’s a hobby.

“Papi” is pretty much universal from the Spanish speakers, and it’s a term of endearment. But a white girl calling me “Daddy” is creepy, and an instant turn off.

I can’t judge his mental acuity but he definitely struggles to find his words and stumbles through prepared statements. He seems to be in decent physical shape for a man of his age, but I just hope he can hang in there for another year since VP Harris scares the hell out of me.

Just gave me reason for not going to Mexico

100% chance her proposal involves you giving her money

Thus is something we only see in Miami. Mural Masturbation: Only Fans girls posing for slutty pictures in front of murals in Wynwood. Yes, this really happens, and I once saw a couple of local OF favorites (Francetti and Toochi Kash for those of you who frequent OF), drawing quite a crowd while going at it and being videotaped in front of an Atomik mural.

I’d be embarrassed to show you what $3 mil buys you in Miami. Maybe a mid market condo.

Wolfie is a legit musician on his own, but being EVH’s son is both a blessing and a curse. The same as how Michael Jordan’s son was a decent basketball player, but could never get out of his dad’s shadow. WVH’s wife is hot. Good for him!

So I looked it up. For reasons I’ll never understand, “civilizations” have been fighting over this 39 square mile piece of worthless desert for more than 3500 years, starting in 1400 BC. I see no workable long term solution for Gaza other than turning it into a parking lot.

I’ve never had an emotional connection with a stripper, and I don’t care about their personal lives or relationships any more than they care about mine. Like the famous quote - I pay her to go away.

There definitely is a whorearchy. I think it goes something like this: 1-Golddigger 2-Sugar Baby 3-Instagram Model / Influencer 4-OF model 5-Cam girl 6-Escort 7-Stripper (ITC) 8-Stripper (OTC) 9-Prostitute 10-Street Walker

If you’re planning on doing anything other than strip clubbing, the civilian population in Miami is much better looking than anywhere else in Florida.

How do these clubs compare on ROI? The general going (negotiated) rate for extras in Pompano is $150 CBJ / $300 FS. I know TJ is a lot less, but you have to factor in travel, etc. What’s the going rate in Providence?

Personally not a fan of tattoos on women. Some look OK on a firm, fit, 20-something body, but imagine what shes gonna look like as a flabby 50 or 70 year-old. It might be an alternating generation thing. Boomers generally thought tattoos were gross since the only people who had them were grandpa and his old navy buddies. Kids generally don’t want to be like their parents so maybe the tattoo trend will decline with the next generation of kids.

Still not as improbable as Ga Tech’s win vs Miami on Sat night. As the Miami Herald headline stated “Hurricanes snatch defeat from the jaws of victory”

If you’re living on a budget or concerned that your strip club spending could jeopardize your ability to pay your bills, then you probably shouldn’t be going to strip clubs. I’m going to clubs less these days, and when I do, I’m definitely spending less. I’m not sure why - I suppose I have other priorities. And when I do go to the clubs, it’s usually a quick visit, where if I don’t see anything I like, I cut my losses and head home. I just hope I’m not growing out of this adolescent phase of my life where a hot naked girl can cause me to make bad decisions.

Yikes! So where do you go from here when she reaches out again (when her bills are due)?

Cute girl. But not someone I’d spend $20/month to see naked.

@Motor Good point. You are correct that my strip club experience is almost exclusively in Miami, where an English-speaking stripper is rare. Glad to hear that there are clubs in other parts of the country that are not so immigrant dependent for their talent.

Politics aside, stricter immigration laws (or stricter enforcement of existing) would literally be the end of strip clubs. I’m in favor of granting immediate citizenship to any smoking hot Cubans, or Ukrainians (or any other country that supplies girls to the US stripper industry) who are willing to work in our strip clubs and offer the services we all enjoy. And like a night club bouncer, I would volunteer to be the one who stands at the border with a laser pointer, identifying which girls get to come in. “ Yes, you… turn around for me, please… now lift up your shirt. Yes, you’re in”.

Do you really think the girls talk about you other than simply “he’s been here for an hour and not bought a dance”, or “I saw him here last week and he took so and so to VIP”. Honestly, I don’t think strippers care about anything beyond targeted earning potential of the customers. Nor should they.

Overgeneralizing here, but I doubt that a stripper who can make $1K or more per night but can’t manage to keep her cellphone bill paid is going to give a fuck about repaying student loans.

Club ad of the day

This discussion took an odd turn. But you don’t need a Princeton economist to tell you that 2 parents are better than 1 for the success of children - regardless of race or ethnicity.

Interesting take. I agree that many guys are going to strip clubs for human connection, touch, and intimacy which may be lacking in their lives, but there is still a lot of exploitation, abuse, human trafficking, prostitution, STD’s, and drug and alcohol abuse, not to mention money laundering and organized crime going on in and around strip clubs and the sex worker environment. So while strip clubs may be providing essential, legitimate services, it’s still a nasty business.

Yea, that’s how it works. She loves you until you run out of money.

Maybe this could happen in an OTC or P4P arrangement, and maybe SB, but never in a real relationship. If your SO ever offers someone else for you to fuck, it is a test or a trap. Don’t fall for it!

Great discussion post. I’m 59 and the first bars and nightclubs I experienced in my 20’s were in Miami in ‘80’s. And I lived to tell the tale.

I have had very similar good experiences with Hallandale day shift, however, talent level is sometimes inconsistent. Looks like you were there on a good day. Recently dancers have been pushing all-inclusive packages in the 3/$100 semi-private VIP. I’ve been quoted $375 - $500 all-in.

When something happens only to you, and no one else, by definition this is a You Problem.

OP could be setting his standards too high. When I was in my 20s I was only interested in super hot girls, unfortunately they weren’t usually interested in me. But as I got a little older, I realized that more average-looking girls fucked just as good - often better, than the super hot ones. And a fat chick with a pretty face can give an amazing blowjob.

It’s kind of irrelevant in the South Florida market where it’s assumed that lap dances involve heavy groping and VIP means FS. We would never see a review that says “I paid $300 and took a hot cuban to the 3 song VIP at DD Pompano where she gave me a good grind.” We all know you got FS, CBJ, cleaned up and out the door in about 6 minutes.

The fact that they’re not budging off those inflated prices tells me that there are guys willing to pay it. So yeah, you’re going to have to look elsewhere to find something more reasonable.

Unfortunately I was not able to take advantage of the $7,500 EV tax credit. The credit is only available for EV’s costing less than $45K, and my Tesla S is more than 2X this. I don’t know of too many sub $45K EV’s that would qualify.

The only problem with the review is mentioning a dancer by name in connection with extras. Despite being commonplace, CBJ and RCG are still illegal in FL. But otherwise a decent review.

I’ve lived in the same house on an island in Miami Beach my entire life. I plan on staying here unless we go under water in my lifetime.

Done both. Thankfully grew out of it before anyone got hurt.

I have an EV and I like it a lot. For me it’s the perfect commuter car, but that’s only because I can charge it in my garage on a level 2 charger. I would not want to rely on public charging stations. I would also not want my EV to be my only car. But as a second car or commuter car, there is a lot to like with an EV.

Interesting. I did not know that OTC girls could have ITC club privileges. First I’ve ever heard of this. Also 90 minutes for $100 to the house doesn’t sound right either. But the real question is if you had this good of an arrangement set up in the past, why did you wait 5 years to hit it again?

I believe all 3 have an AED on premises. But will anyone choose to use it? Is the question.

The anxiety primarily comes from thinking about it too much. An over planned, over anticipated encounter often disappoints, where a more spontaneous, unplanned encounter always exceeds expectations.

After 56 comments over 3 days, I’ve determined this is a you problem. I believe this happened to OP, and he reacted poorly, exacerbating the situation - and likely got himself banned from the club. But this doesn’t seem to happen to others. Therefore it must be a you problem.

I was in Vegas last month. It was very hot, but not in the sense you’re asking about. All I can say is that Vegas has really changed a lot since I first started going there back in the 80’s. Hotels are much nicer, restaurants are much better, and shows are much more expensive. But it is also now seems so corporate and sanitized - almost Disney like. Gone are the cheap rooms that smell like smoke, cheap buffets, and available working girls roaming the casinos. I kind of missed the old Vegas.

Who goes to public pools these days? I can’t believe there would ever be any hot girls at a public pool - if that’s even still a thing.

$20 laps have always been a good value at Deans, but VIP is expensive.

Fully nude $30 laps are not the norm here. Typically they keep their bottoms on.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen the VIP seating area used during day shift. Dances in the “private” rooms are not really private, but were $100/3 songs last time I was there.

$125 for BBBJ is nothing to complain about.

@ilbbaicnl Your comments kind of bummed me out. It’s sad to hear that you look to strippers to satisfy your need for affection. Not judging - just felling bad for you. Everyone deserves to be loved by someone who’s not a selfish, manipulative, drama-seeking woman.

I wonder how mom looks these days?

“Yuchi” was a legitimate college student when she worked at DD. She finished her degree, got a real job, and left the area. I would assume that she is no longer working as a stripper.

The “new” VIP room is $100 for 3 songs. It has high seat bolsters between seats, but it is not private rooms. However, it seems to be unmonitored and the times I have been in there, (afternoon shift) we were the only ones in there, and I received FS for $200 + the $100 room fee. But 3 songs goes by really fast.

Yep. Rookie mistakes. Glad you’re not bitter about it though. Some have described DD as an ITC brothel, not a strip club, which is pretty accurate.

I have had very similar experiences at SG ever since they reopened post-COVID. I keep hoping that things would improve but unfortunately it seems as though they have not. Thanks for the review.

Ironically south Florida is not “southern”. This is because most everyone on the east coast (Jupiter to Miami) is from the northeast, mostly New York. The nicest (wealthiest) areas like Boca Raton, Aventura, and Miami Beach are also predominantly Jewish, which is not considered southern. Southwest Florida is heavily populated by people from the Midwest- Michigan, Chicago, Ohio. Also not southern. However, central Florida up to the panhandle is definitely in the south. Lots of big trucks, firearms, good ol’ boys, and fat white chicks.

Women who bank on selling off their looks have a very narrow window of opportunity so they need to make it while they can.

@Dusty Do whatever makes you happy. I have a neighbor who has an expensive sports car that will go 200 mph. All he ever wants to do is to pull it out of his garage every Sunday, fiddle around with it and shine it up. If he ever does drive it, he’ll rarely get out of 3rd gear or over 35 mph.

I’ve done it a few times and regretted it every time. Waste of money. My experience involves one girl giving me a dance while the other stands by awkwardly. Then they switch. Like someone already stated, twice the cost, half the fun.

Academically, Cal and Stanford would be a good fit for the ACC with Duke, UVA, Miami, UNC, GA Tech, Va Tech, Notre Dame*. But coast to coast travel for non- revenue sports wouldn’t be feasible.

Ultimately there will be as many conferences as there are TV networks, regardless of geography.

@Muddy It sounds to me like you still have a chance. Maybe she’s just playing hard to get. You should make yourself completely irresistible by texting dick pics.

So how will this affect the price of a lap dance?

For that kind of cash book a cheap flight on Spirit to FLL, then Uber to Pompano. Depending on where you go, you can get VIP sessions in the $250 - $500 range that will include everything you’re looking for. Grab some food, Uber back to FLL, and take a nap on the flight home. You’ll get want and still be $ ahead.

FRMOS is the best. It is rare, but I have a few dancers in So FL who will FRMOS with me. When you can combine FRMOS with some mutual ITP action, it’s as good as VIP. I don’t know if it’s the latent exhibitionist thrill or the big dick power move, but there’s something about making out with a hot as fuck stripper in front of a bunch of other guys. But good oral hygiene is important!

And I still think @Nicespice is the smartest person on this forum.

It is impossible to understand history without context. Context is what causes one generation’s heros to be the next generation’s villains. Good decisions made in the context of 75, or 150 years ago, often look like very bad decisions today. But the benefit of 20/20 hindsight and the lack of proper historical context should not be justification for wanting to re-write or sanitize history or pretend like it never happened.

Is this really a problem?

Depends on what you’re looking for. Hiring bachelor party strippers through an agency will usually get you a decent strip show with 2 or 3 girls for a set time based on a fee plus tips. They will come with their own props and security, and it’s typically very limited touching and no photos. You can also ask your favorite local stripper if she does private parties. Some do, but most (in my experience) don’t. But if you find one who does, going this route tends to be significantly less reliable than the agencies, and no one wants to have a party where the entertainment doesn’t show up. In either scenario, don’t expect the stripper(s) to fuck everyone at the party. That’s typically the domain of one on one OTC.

Back in my day, my stay at home mom did all the cooking and cleaning, and she took up the dishes at the end of dinner, before she bought out dessert. So we never learned how to stack the plates.

I feel the same as I did when baseball was on strike (more accurately locked out). Greedy millionaires fighting with greedy billionaires over money, and if it all went away forever I probably wouldn’t miss it. Stay on strike long enough and the public will adapt to other forms of entertainment and you just might become irrelevant.