Too much info?

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Cravemybbc
North Carolina
Got a serious question, maybe more like a comment…

I see a trend of guys leaving reviews of SC’s and the girls that work them, using explicit detail! Not holding nothing back, no attempt at code, no using just enough info to decipher what’s being said about the ladies and the establishments.

Could this be contributing to crack downs on SC’s that are gems? Are we helping LE do their job by adding too much details, in reviews, of our VIP or ITC encounters?

We don't seriously think LE does not monitor this site right? Or that some LE have accounts, adding fake reviews or commenting on reviews to gain Intel???

Call me paranoid! But I’m reading reviews where guys are going into explicit details about their encounters! While I appreciate it, so I know where to go next lol, so does LE!

Wouldn't it make more sense to say just enough and say “dm me for more details” or let fellow mongers do the leg work of dm if they have questions!

I just feel careless reviews could be self sabotaging a rapidly evolving industry hell bent on destroying the Follies of the world!

Am I wrong? I’m man enough to admit if I’m wrong! I just don't want to keep losing these gems over the potential of careless maybe unintentional behavior.

Chime in!

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Puddy Tat
19 hours ago
You're singing my song. When one club was busted some years back, journalists aired quotes RIGHT FROM TUSCL REVIEWS about what happened there.

The codes are stupid, does anyone think cops don't know what Billy Joel and Frank Sinatra mean?

If someone comes on for the first time asking "so does Mercedes at Bada Bing suck dick?" we automatically assume they're either cops or a jealous bf/husband.

Connecting dancers by name to extras isn't good for us, the girl, the club, or the "hobby."

Those of us who have common sense exchange info over DMs.
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mogul1985
19 hours ago
Puddy Tat: I'm really careful what post. You are spot on. Filtering out LE and Owners is a difficult edge to walk. It's left up to Adjudicators to carefully Approve and Reject.
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IWantHerOnMe
19 hours ago
I can't stand it, I totally agree with you. I almost don't get why its a review option so few of the guys care. It's reckless and worse misleading. Extras are NOT guaranteed from any dancer, just because I paid a number and something happened doesn't mean that you will.
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drewcareypnw
19 hours ago
I hear that Stormy gives blowies in the VIP.
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twentyfive
19 hours ago
Most of the yahoos posting shit about individual dancers are full of shit, any serious monger would not pay attention to what some loser posted about any individual dancer. Additionally if you know what’s available at any given club it’s not very difficult to find out who you want to play with.
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RonJax2
18 hours ago
Here's my take:

- In clubs where extras are common but not legal, I think the important thing is: DO NOT OUT THE DANCER. That means her stage name, real name, or any other identifying information, like her tatoos. I think this is paramount.

- In jurisdictions where solicitation is legal or decriminalized, I welcome (and indeed am the producer of copious) explicit reviews. By this I mean Tijuana, FKKs, Pattaya, etc. In these cases, I still think it is important to avoid any identifying information for a dancer in a public review.

- I'm skeptical that using code words does anything to prevent LEO from cracking down. Like, Uncle Leo can figure out what "she sang a Billy Joel song then a Frank Sinatra song" means just as well as a PL can. I don't even think vagaries like "I left a satisfied customer" are helpful.

Bottom line is: Uncle Leo already knows whats up at extras clubs, and for whatever reason, has chosen to tolerate it in some jurisdictions. I think the more important concern, and this is true whether it's illegal or not, is to preserve the dancer's privacy and avoid identifying her in anyway.
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blahblahblahs
17 hours ago
This is written from the perspective of a customer that doesn't buy extras for personal reasons, but doesn't want the extras clubs near me shutdown because they still provide a great experience for non-extras customers.

There has been a huge increase in people using online-john codes in their reviews. Crap Iike $$ or 2$ or "I tipped $1.5". This is a bad thing, and it will attract even more LEO attention. Or perhaps those users are actually LEO themselves.

Second, even if local PDs/state vice units have chosen to tolerate certain clubs, being too explicit here can create news/constituent pressure in their communities that will force them to change their stance.
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Hank Moody
17 hours ago
OP has been here long enough to know it’s a tired subject and that the consensus, while not unanimous is that dancers’ names should not be connected to extras. There’s a “too explicit” check box in the reviewer’s rejection options use it. I get it that Detroit Providence and Seattle have different customs so it’s a closer call that, but for most everywhere else don’t do it for the multiple reasons we’ve discussed ad nauseam.

The “code” is and has always been moronic.
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PAWG_Patrol
17 hours ago
Even when you don't name names it can be tricky.

I once mentioned that fun girls in a certain club turned the lights off in VIP. Next time I went, they had installed light switch covers! (Not that that prevented me from enjoying a few bars of Piano Man with the lights on a few months later 🤣)
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Puddy Tat
17 hours ago
@hank

"I get it that Detroit Providence and Seattle have different customs so it’s a closer call that"

Detroit and Providence are smarter than that.
It's the Seattle dildos who are like "hurrr durrrr it's different here"
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Hank Moody
15 hours ago
@puddy. Agreed.

@pawg. Great point. I know of two clubs where after spending a lot of time and money I have personal knowledge on how the cameras work and how to avoid them. These are non extras clubs where I’ve enjoyed the most extra-ey of extras. NFW would I put it in a review or even in a PM because after spending all that time and money I don’t want to hip management to it and have them change it up. Enjoy it while I can as they eventually will change it up.
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Harderlap
15 hours ago
Follow Founder’s guidelines:

“Be honest. You can go into explicit detail of the private dances. Just be careful with names if you think it may get someone in trouble.”

To this I would add, not only names, but descriptions that easily identify a dancer. And trouble includes not only law enforcement, but also club management, boyfriends, and other dancers.
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Puddy Tat
15 hours ago
^ Oh and one other thing.

Putting a dancer's name with asterisks, like M*rc*d*s is not hiding her name, you might as well write it out at that point.

Best approach is to put the name and a vague description and keep it to PMs with people you trust.
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gSteph
13 hours ago
I just make up names, even for my non-extra activities 🙃
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Manuellabore
9 hours ago
Codes are just plain dumb, whether its for activities, dancer names, or dollar amounts.
Tying dancer names to specific illegal acts is deplorable,
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Manuellabore
8 hours ago
On the other hand, not being able to say that an extras-heavy club is an extras-heavy club would diminish the usefulness of the site. If I'm blowing into a new town for an overnighter looking for FS and there are five clubs where the reviews just say the bathrooms are clean, the girls are pretty and the beer is cold, that's not going to help much. Concern that law enforcement would decide to target a club for a sting based on those comments seem overblown, especially since most extra-oriented clubs I have encountered have been that way for years. Concern over ownership tightening up is even more far-fetched. I do totally understand the idea of keeping dancer workarounds things lights cameras and lighting close to the vest, although knowing about cameras is important to a lot of people. (I personally don't really care. The dancer will do it or she won't. Her reasons are her reasons)
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