Too much info?

Puddy Tat: I'm really careful what post. You are spot on. Filtering out LE and Owners is a difficult edge to walk. It's left up to Adjudicators to carefully Approve and Reject.

I hear that Stormy gives blowies in the VIP.

Most of the yahoos posting shit about individual dancers are full of shit, any serious monger would not pay attention to what some loser posted about any individual dancer. Additionally if you know what’s available at any given club it’s not very difficult to find out who you want to play with.

Here's my take:

• In clubs where extras are common but not legal, I think the important thing is: DO NOT OUT THE DANCER. That means her stage name, real name, or any other identifying information, like her tatoos. I think this is paramount.

• In jurisdictions where solicitation is legal or decriminalized, I welcome (and indeed am the producer of copious) explicit reviews. By this I mean Tijuana, FKKs, Pattaya, etc. In these cases, I still think it is important to avoid any identifying information for a dancer in a public review.

• I'm skeptical that using code words does anything to prevent LEO from cracking down. Like, Uncle Leo can figure out what "she sang a Billy Joel song then a Frank Sinatra song" means just as well as a PL can. I don't even think vagaries like "I left a satisfied customer" are helpful.

Bottom line is: Uncle Leo already knows whats up at extras clubs, and for whatever reason, has chosen to tolerate it in some jurisdictions. I think the more important concern, and this is true whether it's illegal or not, is to preserve the dancer's privacy and avoid identifying her in anyway.

This is written from the perspective of a customer that doesn't buy extras for personal reasons, but doesn't want the extras clubs near me shutdown because they still provide a great experience for non-extras customers.

There has been a huge increase in people using online-john codes in their reviews. Crap Iike $$ or 2$ or "I tipped $1.5". This is a bad thing, and it will attract even more LEO attention. Or perhaps those users are actually LEO themselves.

Second, even if local PDs/state vice units have chosen to tolerate certain clubs, being too explicit here can create news/constituent pressure in their communities that will force them to change their stance.

OP has been here long enough to know it’s a tired subject and that the consensus, while not unanimous is that dancers’ names should not be connected to extras. There’s a “too explicit” check box in the reviewer’s rejection options use it. I get it that Detroit Providence and Seattle have different customs so it’s a closer call that, but for most everywhere else don’t do it for the multiple reasons we’ve discussed ad nauseam.

The “code” is and has always been moronic.

Even when you don't name names it can be tricky.

I once mentioned that fun girls in a certain club turned the lights off in VIP. Next time I went, they had installed light switch covers! (Not that that prevented me from enjoying a few bars of Piano Man with the lights on a few months later 🤣)

@puddy. Agreed.

@pawg. Great point. I know of two clubs where after spending a lot of time and money I have personal knowledge on how the cameras work and how to avoid them. These are non extras clubs where I’ve enjoyed the most extra-ey of extras. NFW would I put it in a review or even in a PM because after spending all that time and money I don’t want to hip management to it and have them change it up. Enjoy it while I can as they eventually will change it up.

Follow Founder’s guidelines:

“Be honest. You can go into explicit detail of the private dances. Just be careful with names if you think it may get someone in trouble.”

To this I would add, not only names, but descriptions that easily identify a dancer. And trouble includes not only law enforcement, but also club management, boyfriends, and other dancers.

I just make up names, even for my non-extra activities 🙃

Codes are just plain dumb, whether its for activities, dancer names, or dollar amounts. Tying dancer names to specific illegal acts is deplorable,

On the other hand, not being able to say that an extras-heavy club is an extras-heavy club would diminish the usefulness of the site. If I'm blowing into a new town for an overnighter looking for FS and there are five clubs where the reviews just say the bathrooms are clean, the girls are pretty and the beer is cold, that's not going to help much. Concern that law enforcement would decide to target a club for a sting based on those comments seem overblown, especially since most extra-oriented clubs I have encountered have been that way for years. Concern over ownership tightening up is even more far-fetched. I do totally understand the idea of keeping dancer workarounds things lights cameras and lighting close to the vest, although knowing about cameras is important to a lot of people. (I personally don't really care. The dancer will do it or she won't. Her reasons are her reasons)

Local LE is well aware of what goes on in the strip clubs in their jurisdictions without having to get info from this site. They’re customers too, and in many instances off duty LE are legally employed by strip clubs.

But having said this, everything I’ve ever written on this site is made up. I’ve never even been inside a strip club. I just take info from other reviews and make up my own stories to get free VIP access.

The code is the code. Is it a little odd that you break out into My Way by Frank Sinatra once in VIP? Well yes, Yes it is.

Agree, our codes are a little outdated and quite possibly have been figured out by LEOs. I say we kick it up a notch. The stripper told me she needed $100 to go shopping at BJ's and an extra $50 for that Baby Buggy she wants to buy.

If you’re thinking that detectives have nothing better to do but read tuscl your nuts. They already know that certain things go on at certain clubs and they are willing to look the other way. Now saying that Jessie at a squeaky clean club was blowing guys in the VIP that might twig management to question Jessie and maybe fire her, but LE isn't about to use a web site where anonymous reviews report fantasies of unknown males for any official purpose. If you think that you don’t understand rules of evidence etc.. .

I love how my post both confirmed my thoughts and triggered others. I’m a grown as man so I will not resort to arguing with men; I’ll leave that for the women.

I can assure you that club management checks sites like these. In addition so does LE, in certain towns cities and states.

All in all, some details in reviews should be kept to the vest! If fellow Mongers want more info, reach out via dm!

I’m not giving up all the details at some places I have visited outside of ATL. Why? Out of a city with maybe 5 or less functional SC’s the one I have managed to get high mileage in I’m not exposing openly because someone will ultimately ruin it for me lol.

All in all use caution, discretion especially when it comes to the ladies. Dont mess up a good thing!!!!

Not holding my breath waiting for a club to get shut down based on a TUSCL post. Most clubs get into legal trouble because of taxes. Trafficking charges may get added on to help force a plea, but they’re based on dancers who cooperate with law enforcement, either because they’re disaffected or because they’ve got their own legal trouble. As others have mentioned, a post on a website is inadmissible as evidence and is not even probable cause for filing charges. If you don’t tie a readily identifiable dancer to extras (which is creepy anyway) you’re also not giving management much to work with, although I agree it is poor judgment to blab about extras at a club with a squeaky clean reputation. At other clubs, management has little incentive to mess with their earners

^ Hasn't it already happened in Providence? Isn't that what ultimately killed Cheaters and also changed Foxy to a very non-extras establishment?

How do we know it isn't the cause of what caused the new municipality to go after Follies?

I maintain that the threat of this site isn't that LE will figure out which clubs offer extras, but rather that it will be used by aggrieved wives/girlfriends, SWERFs, religious fanatics as a way to make it impossible for local LE to ignore.

When a town/city wants a club shutdown they will use any tool available (look at what just happened in ABQ, New Mexico or Tollington, CT). It is probably easier to bust the club on alcohol, food prep, immigration, noise ordinance or labor violations than for prostitution.

Since I'm not an extras customer, I'm not overly concerned about clubs going from extras to clean. However, my libertarian streak doesn't want that for the rest of you (or the dancers that want to earn money that way), and as a capitalist I want more competition, which means good clubs staying open.

What happened in Torrington?

Tolland CT. Owners/managers of Electric Blue got busted for tax offenses and trafficking and lost their liquor license. There was no "raid". No apparent connection to TUSCL. Place is still open

I don't like saying this but we got to be careful what we post. and this concern goes against what I really enjoy reading.

When local LE is pathetic enough to prioritize vice arrests, they will be looking at strip clubs. I doubt what we say here makes much difference to that. The bigger issue is that this form of entertainment is as dependent on dancer cheating as well as PL cheating. One thing I'm not sure of is what percentage of dancer SOs know her work name. I stay on the safe side, and assume they know it. I'm careful about how much detail I give about what a particular dancer did (unless she's a liar).