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13 years ago
@GoViking - I assume you're referring to places in TJ, Mexico. Indeed, it's quite cheap there. Within the US, there are certainly some places where you can have sex ITC for a few hundred, though in a major market like NYC Id say that is near impossible.
I personally think it is ridiculous but there are even clubs that do fine selling $1600 per hour private rooms, where there is certainly no sex either (*maybe* a BJ at the absolute most).
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13 years ago
@sharkhunter - this is why you always carry condoms with you. :P
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13 years ago
Not a fan...but I guess that is mostly because she is twice my age.
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13 years ago
@gatorfan LOL
I really don't see the big deal here, the child clearly doesn't know what the message is really about anyways. The parents could pass the place off as just being a bar if they really wanted to, it does not have to be revealed as a strip club.
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13 years ago
Uhh, yeah... That's not attractive.
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13 years ago
> At least until I learned from this site that so much more is available for so much less.
Definitely something I quickly learned as well. But sometimes it is nice to treat yourself to an 'expensive' night out at the club...if you can afford it.
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13 years ago
On average, it is difficult to have much fun if you spend under $100 - this is in NYC of course, where everything is pretty costly. If you go VIP (champagne room and whatnot) then forget about it (not something I do) - you're easily spending a grand at that point. So I guess this will depend market to market really, in some places you really need to spend a decent amount to have a good time, in other places...not so much.
Sometimes I've spent several hundred, but honestly it has been worth it for the good times had. Don't regret it, but am definitely cautious and will only splurge every now and then - not a regular thing.
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13 years ago
@GMD
> "Better"? What's better than pussy? :)
Well said. haha.
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13 years ago
No worries. I can say that in the relatively short time I've been here I've learned a lot too. Some of the my earliest posts may be pretty naive too. That is what the community is all about.
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13 years ago
Yeah - I definitely experience this too. Mostly because my 'ATF' also happens to be a top earner in the club. There are always other guys vying her for attention, taking her to champagne room, etc. Not a problem though, I let her max out her earnings with these guys in the club, and focus on seeing her OTC as much as possible.
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13 years ago
My 'ATF' is essentially the top earner at the club she's at right now, and let me tell you it took a bit to reach this level with her. It was somewhat costly to get there, but I am seeing her OTC (in the beginning, it seemed this was almost impossible to do) and things are quite nice. So it is not always bad, and you don't always end up as a PL/RIL. But it is not easy to get there.
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13 years ago
She is definitely good looking. Not the biggest fan of her face and I have definitely seen better, but overall a pretty hot dancer.
I am guessing that she is not a big extras girl, but who knows.
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13 years ago
Haha, I've gotten that before. Have been given quite a few drinks on the house (and I'm relatively new to the scene). Dunno if it's good or bad. But hey, some great times happening in there. Extras ITC where I never thought possible. Gotta love it.
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13 years ago
Overall I'd say it is better to minimize the drinking in the club. There are definitely some advantages to it - the girls will gravitate to you and that may not necessarily be a bad thing, especially if you're drinking with them and they're tipsy as well. Plus (at least this is how it is for me), the girls will start to look even more attractive. However, you may end up spending some more money (I have done it, but not too drastically) than you anticipated, not just in buying all the booze, but you'll probably spend a lot more on LDs, etc. Overall best thing is to drink minimally yourself, or not at all. But I would not hesitate to buy drinks for the girls.
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13 years ago
@gillydon - yes, that is definitely true. Either that or maybe some VIP passes. :P
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13 years ago
In places like Flashdancers NYC - where private rooms start at about $600 per hour and go all the way up to $2000, I am sure the club is raking in some serious dough. The crazy thing is that there is still quite a demand for all these private rooms, even at those prices. Mixed drinks can be as much as $20. It's NYC still, so general operating costs are high, but definitely not high enough for this sort of price gouging.
When I see this sort of thing, it really gets me thinking - sort of wish I owned the place. On that note, now that we're talking about average profits, has anyone from TUSCL ever looked at starting their own club? There are definitely a lot of logistics involved, but it seems rather lucrative if done right.
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13 years ago
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mjx01Aspiring Global Hound
A *few* tats here and there are OK and all, and a navel piercing can look pretty hot. But as it starts to get beyond that, it's too much so I can completely understand where the ATF status can get lost. I wish more girls who are naturally so beautiful would realize that they don't need to add all these things to their body - they look great already.
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13 years ago
Wow, $50 a dance is really a rip. As expensive as the NYC market may be for a lot of things, $20 per tune is thankfully pretty standard around here.
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13 years ago
To be honest the whole thing is definitely kind of sketchy. None of us can argue that this isn't going to help Obama though - it's excellent for him.
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13 years ago
> just like 'em best when they're naked.
Haha. Don't we all.
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13 years ago
Yeah, telling me that you're broke is not going to get you the dance generally, at least not from me.
Some tattoos can be OK, but I honestly prefer a natural body without that sort of thing. Having -a lot- of tattoos is not generally appealing IMO.
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13 years ago
Yeah, Adriana Lima is truly one of a kind. Amazing girl.
What got me here was the email really... if you are into one of the girls at the club this much, you should try to get their number in person and go for OTC. I always make it a point to try to get the numbers of the girls I like. It's really not all that hard with a lot of the girls. I don't think having someone passing your email is really the best way to go about this...
You can also always ask the club for her schedule. Maybe she's just on a short vacation. If they confirm that she has truly moved on, then perhaps she has either moved to a different club or is leaving this industry in general. If that's the case, she may not be willing to do OTC anymore either. Best thing to do is really to move onto another girl. Don't get yourself too hooked onto one - you're setting yourself up to be upset in the end.
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13 years ago
* Meant to say: in some cases it is hard not to think*
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13 years ago
Yeah man, chill out a bit for sure on this one. I bet this girl is really beautiful and all, but you need to get your mind off her. There are plenty of women out there, I'm sure you will find another favorite in the club. If you are interested in OTC, you should ask them in the club.
@GoVikings - yea, I do the same for myself. As long as you understand this concept you won't be fooled into thinking its anything more. In some cases it is not hard not to think about some dancers outside the club (especially if you are doing them OTC, haha), but you need to know where you stand in this relationship, as generally nothing more than a customer having a good time.