discussion comment
5 years ago
Most bachelorette parties are not actually out to find strange men to actually do anything with. You'd have better far better luck crashing weddings.
Bring your own. Skip the clubs; they suck. Been there, done that.
review comment
5 years ago
The only thing I'll add about Summer from my notes, assuming she's the same one, is that she's pretty tall. That was a bit of a turn-off for me. I'm not saying she's bad looking, but I like 'em shorter. My two cents.
discussion comment
5 years ago
@pistola: I'll give it the full two days, but yeah, this one's looking very much over.
It's weird, too, because you guys have generally been anti-enhancement. They're both enhanced, but Nikki's are much more blatant. And yet, she's dominating.
Plus, are you guys not watching the clips? I mean, yes, Fritz is hot. But Brown can move! I would have thought that alone would tempt someone. Nope.
Maybe you guys don't like big hair? Maybe you guys are more into older women? Avluv over Harper was another case of that. But yeah, it's one-sided.
I'll file my vote now for Fritz as well, but man, this went really far in one direction and I did not expect that.
discussion comment
5 years ago
@Longball: Same film as the clip I chose. It was a tough call, but I went with the bike scene to avoid people voting for the the blonde in that clip.
But yes, that scene is hot, too. My goal is to pull a different clip each time someone advances, and given it looks like Fritz will advance, that one might be on the horizon.
discussion comment
5 years ago
So my SO is not bisexual, but she is somewhat sexually uninhibited.
She wants to, and we have, watched porn together sometimes. It gets her turned on and she's said she wouldn't mind if we did it more often, though I'm hesitant because, well, I don't want her to know how much I watch and how much I know about it (have you noticed the bracket?).
She has also said she'd like to go to a strip club sometime. Apparently she and some co-workers did a pole fitness class once for fun and she took to it so easily that she wants to install one in our house. It doesn't surprise me that she'd want to see the pros do it sometime.
@rogertex's joke above has a lot to do with why I've been even more hesitant to do this than the porn. Even though I don't club much in my hometown anymore, I clubbed enough in my hometown once upon a time that there's a good chance someone would remember me. Furthermore, I happen to know someone who knows my SO and I both from outside the club realm is now dancing at one club. It's why I don't go there much anymore, and I feel like it would get really awkward if we saw someone we both know.
That said, I could see us doing it sometime if we were out of town. I definitely think there would be ground rules, akin to @nidan's.
1. I'm there for her, not for me or the dancers.
2. Spend a lot of time talking to her. This largely goes back to #1.
3. Stick to the stage.
4. Discuss the dancing more than anything. My wife is into dance in general, including watching the various shows on TV and whatnot. Assuming we'd pick a nicer club, she could be impressed by ladies who can show off on the pole.
5. Steer any ladies toward her. Again, this goes back largely to #1. She probably wouldn't be impressed with any flirting because she's not bi, but if she could relate to the dancers on a more-real, almost friendly level, she'd probably enjoy herself. I assume she'd get dressed up for the event, so there's a decent chance the dancers might be more into her than she's into the dancers.
6. She's OK with me complimenting a woman whose hair & makeup game is on point, who is well put-together outfit-wise or who shows stage talent because she & I tend to have the same opinions on such matters. That said, you also have to call out the ladies who aren't well put together to balance it out.
7. If she decides she wants to spend some money, let her spend some money. She's pretty cheap on the whole, so I can't see her going to VIP, but if she really wants to get a private dance, it would probably be an experience for her. Granted, she'd probably come back a little shocked and laughing because, again, she's not bi, but I could see her wanting to try one with the right woman.
8. Relax. Act like it's no big deal. But don't act like you're as familiar with the game as you are. Don't take out your ID right away because you know they're going to ask. Be confused about where the bar or bathroom is. And so on.
9. Make the trip relatively brief and leave, unless she's truly digging it. Again, read her. Don't linger longer than she wants to stay.
discussion comment
5 years ago
At some point, you gotta say something. I mean, what's too late? When she's holding in her hand above her head because she's ripped it off? Even better if she spikes it like a football and does a touchdown dance.
I'd think you'd want to say something sometime before that, no?
discussion comment
5 years ago
This sounds like the plot of "From Dusk 'Til Dawn."
Mmm ... Santanico Pandemonium ...
discussion comment
5 years ago
Time to close it off. I'll file a vote for D'Errico.
D'ERRICO 17
VON TEESE 10
̶A̶n̶ ̶u̶n̶c̶o̶m̶f̶o̶r̶t̶a̶b̶l̶e̶ ̶d̶i̶s̶c̶u̶s̶s̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶r̶e̶g̶i̶o̶n̶a̶l̶ ̶g̶e̶n̶e̶t̶i̶c̶s̶:̶ ̶1̶
Donna D's C's best Dita's double-D's.
My theory was that Dita is more so a "woman's woman" than a "man's woman," as in moreso representative of what women want to think of as "being sexy" than actually being attractive to men, at least when you think about it.
I had a GF that was very into Dita's books and beauty tips. Yes, she has the Bettie Page thing going on, but I think @Longball is off base. Dita is obsessive about her look, her hair, her makeup, her skin, her fitness, her stage routines, etc., to the point of OCD at best and strict fussiness at worst. Consider whether you really want a woman who's that focused on herself. Honestly, I think @pistola's opinion might be more on-target than anything.
Granted, the 17-10 vote doesn't necessarily prove she's not attractive to you guys, and D'Errico is tough competition. But, she didn't win, and wasn't particularly close to winning, which also says something.
D'Errico will get the winner of a SI Swimsuit cover-model showdown between Rachel Hunter and Marisa Miller.
discussion comment
5 years ago
I have been with a woman who could, though she required a vibrator.
She, however, had a weak bladder, which meant, if she didn't use the restroom before the session, some of it could end up being urine. One time, she didn't, and that was a problem. Room smelled pretty bad for a while.
Other than that time, though, it was a neat trick.
discussion comment
5 years ago
"I would think if you are a porn addict, it would go hand in hand that you're a masturbation addict."
They can't go hand in hand because one of your hands is probably always in use.
The first time I found out what happened when you get stimulated enough came (LOL) watching a Cinemax movie at age nine in 1991. I'd fall asleep sometimes on a couch in our family room with the TV on at night, which was common occurrence in our family. I eventually figured out, if I woke up in the middle of the night, everyone else was asleep and there'd be good stuff on the pay channels.
I didn't even know what happened. I knew watching naked women resulted in something getting much bigger down there, then figured out it felt real good to touch it while it was swollen. Then once, during a scene with busty, wet women dancing around and removing their bikinis, kablow.
I thought maybe it got so swollen that it somehow burst. I knew I hadn't gone to the bathroom, and being the first time, a whole heck of a lot came out. It was like an explosion. I made a real mess of the couch. I frantically and quietly tried to clean up, knowing it was bad news if someone heard me, came downstairs and saw what was on TV. I also didn't know this then, but ejaculate is mildly alkaline, which damages some fabrics. So even though I was able to get it dry, it was impossible to fully remove the stains.
After the cleaning, the blood returned to my other head and I started to put two and two together to realize it was something to do with what they talked about in Sex Ed. A few nights later, I purposely sought out another Cinemax movie to try and make the same thing happen again on purpose. It worked and I realized it was awesome.
I think my record was six times in a night, which spanned two movies. I was still only about two-thirds of the way to the age of consent then, though.
So yeah. I'd say I've had an addiction to just about anything related to sex ever since. Porn, strip clubs, just seeing women naked, whatever. I remember hearing Tiger Woods' stories and thinking, "Psh, amateur."
The women gotta be hot, though. Actress hot. I don't settle.
discussion comment
5 years ago
Let's wrap it up. I'll toss a worthless vote to Meridian to make it closer.
O'NEIL: 10
MERIDIAN: 7
NEITHER: 3
̶M̶o̶d̶e̶l̶ ̶B̶r̶a̶c̶k̶e̶t̶ ̶D̶i̶s̶c̶u̶s̶s̶i̶o̶n̶:̶ ̶2̶
Linda O'Neil advances.
One side note from the discussion of the Model Bracket above: We've now had four of the eight first-round matchups in the Model region, which, admittedly, is much more hodgepodge than the other brackets. Consider who's beaten who:
Nadine (web model) defeated Sinclair (pornstar)
Brimhall (Playboy bunny/B-movie actress) def. Nile (pornstar)
Kozar (Playboy bunny) def. Reche (stripper)
O'Neil (web model) def. Meridian (pornstar)
In each of these cases, I'd say the women who don't go as far on camera won, with Kozar/Reche being kind of a wash. Still ... you guys all say you want women who do extras, yet you don't vote for the women willing to go further. I guess there's meaning to "you want what you can't have."
O'Neil's win will force us to hop in the time machine and go back to the year 2000 for her second-round matchup against Cori Nadine.
discussion comment
5 years ago
Golf, yes. I would say baseball, too.
I'll add auto racing. You have to understand your car, the track, the other drivers, how things change in time, and you have to do it at 200 mph over three hours in an uncomfortable outfit and helmet without fatigue, knowing a wrong move could end your life. I'd say that takes skill.
discussion comment
5 years ago
Ignore is awesome.
I don't mind that it shows the ignored threads, if only because the trolls tend to work in waves. It allows you to see when they've decided to get active without actually having to deal with it.
discussion comment
5 years ago
@Justin: The Model Bracket is the island of misfit toys. It could have also been called the Overflow, Potpourri or Hodgepodge Bracket, but Model seemed like an apt generic term.
We had more than 16 pornstars and B-movie actresses, while there were a number of ladies who didn't fit well into the other three brackets (Internet models). The lesser-known were filtered into the Model Bracket.
discussion comment
5 years ago
You have the money. You control how you spend it.
If you see a lady you want to spend it on badly enough, you will find a way to flag her down when she's free. Neither she nor the club will care how much you were spending before.
I see no good reason to spend money on women you're not interested in, even if that earns you a reputation as a non- spender. When it comes time to spend it, they'll take it. The only reputation you'll get spending your money foolishly wil be as a ATM PL.
discussion comment
5 years ago
It's actually in the dancer's best interest that, if you're going to turn her down no matter what, you do so quickly. It gives her more time to work on someone who might actually be a buyer.
I'm not saying you should turn someone down impolitely or rudely, but having a good list of excuses never hurts. "Sorry, I'm waiting on someone else," is technically not even lying.
If she doesn't get the message and keeps trying to work on you, that's her wasted time, not yours.
discussion comment
5 years ago
Yeah, I don't like this. This seems like it will encourage ROB behavior.
Not all of us are Wall Street bankers. I drive my rusty Taurus to the club. I have to save money on other stuff to afford clubbing like I want to.
You're going to get some new dancers after seeing this, looking at us like we're all asshole bastards who they feel a certain responsibility to get drunk and bilk for the good of society. Some already feel that way.
I do everything possible in my day-to-day life not to be the bad guy. I'm not a millionaire. I make decent money, but it's a far cry from six figures, much less seven. I'm just out to have a good time.
Seems like a movie for the folks on SW, not TUSCL.
review comment
5 years ago
Model review, Jack. I wouldn't expect anything less from you.
discussion comment
5 years ago
This one went very much one way early and I think a lot of people lost interest accordingly. That said, we at least had some amusing responses.
ROMIJN: 16
MICHELLE: 3
NEITHER: 1
B̶r̶a̶c̶k̶e̶t̶ ̶T̶a̶l̶k̶:̶ ̶3̶
̶B̶U̶R̶K̶E̶:̶ ̶1̶
̶G̶U̶E̶R̶R̶E̶R̶O̶:̶ ̶1̶
̶A̶ ̶s̶e̶l̶f̶-̶f̶u̶l̶f̶i̶l̶l̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶p̶h̶e̶c̶y̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶s̶a̶y̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶h̶o̶t̶ ̶w̶o̶m̶e̶n̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶u̶n̶a̶t̶t̶a̶i̶n̶a̶b̶l̶e̶:̶ ̶1̶
̶T̶o̶b̶i̶a̶s̶ ̶F̶ü̶n̶k̶e̶-̶l̶i̶k̶e̶ ̶p̶o̶s̶t̶i̶n̶g̶:̶ ̶1̶ ("Those are blue, too!")
̶I̶n̶t̶e̶r̶-̶p̶o̶s̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶s̶m̶a̶c̶k̶:̶ ̶1̶
̶A̶ ̶c̶r̶a̶b̶b̶y̶ ̶t̶r̶o̶l̶l̶:̶ ̶1̶
̶B̶o̶t̶h̶:̶ ̶1̶
Romijn scores the largest margin of victory we've had yet (13 votes), while the Go Daddy Girl is gone, daddy, gone.
Romijn seems like she kind of taps into the group's mindset. Meanwhile, I must admit, I never knew what a Refund Gap was before, though again, I've made it clear I don't mind fake boobs, and I also wouldn't ask for a refund. A good bra, or a pair of arms, puts 'em back together, anyhow.
We will have a Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition cover model showdown in the second round when Romijn takes on Kate Upton.
discussion comment
5 years ago
Let me clarify: I've never been on a set or anywhere near one. But I do read about how it's made, some of the slings and arrows those productions deal with, etc. I do know about regular film production, and a lot of the concepts are the same. It's just what's going on in front of the camera is different. I won't pretend to be an industry insider, though.
If this article from earlier this year is to be believed, and I have no reason not to believe it, then no, they have no secret unfamiliar to us PLs. They do need to rely some on ED meds, and they have bad days like all of us. But no needles or implants. They're just gifted and skilled.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/exposing-male-porn-stars-dirty-little-secret-do-you-want-to-pop-a-pill?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link
Remember, doing it on camera isn't just doing it with a pornstar. It's doing it under hot lights, with a bunch of dudes in the room manning cameras and sound equipment, all depending on you to perform to get what they need.
Imagine the pressure of performing well that one time a 10 agrees to extras in the VIP. Now imagine a bunch of people watching, and everyone's paychecks depending on you staying hard, but not cumming, for a few hours. Not easy. Those guys are pros, even if they do rely on help.
discussion comment
5 years ago
@pistola: Even with 64, there are omissions, and Burke is absolutely one of them. Victoria Silvstedt occurred to me the other day, too. A number of more-recent pornstars as well. We may have to have another bracket at some point, then a "super bracket" between the survivors of that one and this one.
But this is already a big enough project. We'll take some time off after we finish this one. As it is, this is tracking to take four months time. I'll think about doing another one for 2020. So many women, so little time.
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@heaving: So I'm purposely not revealing the bracket or seeding because I don't want seeding to influence votes. Sometimes, just seeing someone's a 3 makes you think you should vote for them over a 14. I don't want that weighing in.
I did seed the bracket, but I randomized the matchups so they come up in no particular order, and when I post a matchup, I just list the ladies alphabetically. All I'll say is my seedings haven't been as accurate as I thought they'd be. But just like in March Madness, seeding doesn't matter when you actually start playing the game.
Here's the results thus far, though, in the order they've occurred:
B-Movie Bracket
Stacy MORAN defeats Kitana BAKER, 8-7 (1 vote 'neither')
Pornstar
Megan RAIN def. Lisa ANN, 10-7 (1)
Celebrity
Kiana TOM def. Nicole KIDMAN, 14-8
Model
Cori NADINE def. Ashley SINCLAIR, 12-5 (4)
Pornstar
Kira KENER def. Shyla STYLEZ, 9-6 (7)
Celebrity
Carmen ELECTRA def. Katarina WITT, 15-8 (3)
Pornstar
Jenna JAMESON def. Madison IVY, 12-7 (5)
Celebrity
Kate UPTON def. Lisa GUERRERO, 14-7 (2)
Pornstar
Veronica AVLUV def. Dillion HARPER, 11-10 (4)
Model
Cynthia BRIMHALL def. Isis NILE, 8-4 (2)
Celebrity
Denise RICHARDS def. Pamela ANDERSON, 20-8
Model
Heather KOZAR def. Suzana RECHE, 9-7 (5)
Sheer luck of the draw, but we've got a lot of the Celebrity Bracket matchups already, while we've barely touched the B-Movie Bracket.
As it is, the opening round is going to take about two months, with 32 matchups taking two days each.
Of course, if you want to see the entirety of the field in pictures, just check the 'Pictures' section of my profile (which was kind of the original point).
discussion comment
5 years ago
Poll's closed. Moose out front should've told 'ya.
KOZAR: 9
RECHE: 7
NEITHER ̶/̶D̶I̶C̶K̶ ̶P̶I̶C̶S̶: 5
̶B̶o̶t̶h̶:̶ ̶1̶
̶I̶n̶t̶e̶r̶n̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶a̶l̶ ̶r̶e̶l̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶:̶ ̶1̶
I wondered how much name recognition would make a difference in these polls. This was a good test. Given you guys seemed to know Kozar, but not Reche, and that seemed to be a deciding factor for some of you, it's fair to say it does make some difference.
Kozar moves on. She'll get the winner of the matchup between Karla Kensington and Brooklyn Lee.
discussion comment
5 years ago
First off, let me echo everyone else that's said they're glad you're OK. Don't let some of the idiocy, trolls, etc., here make folks think we don't share a hobby and want to see what's best for each other. We're here to help each other out, and it sucks when one of us get put in this spot, because it could be any of us, and most of us are just out for a good time, not to hurt anyone.
This is where I'm tempted to get on my soapbox about SESTA/FOSTA. If this sort of thing was more out in the open, ladies could probably only get away with this once or twice before they got a bad review on TER and everyone got really leery going forward. I haven't engaged in the non-club version of "the hobby" since TER went away because I simply refuse to see a woman at least a few others have vouched for. I didn't do it that often when it was around, anyhow, because clubs tend to have far better talent at more affordable prices, anyhow, and so many reviews are so bad. But without it, I just don't trust anything I see.
I tried SA briefly and it didn't afford me the kind of anonymity I wanted. Sorry, also not for me.
I think, if you do this enough times, you get ripped off once or twice on occasion just because the odds say you will. I had a woman in a Vegas club promise me the moon and the stars and delivered nothing, earning her a spot in my ROB Hall of Fame. Even when you do what you can to keep it from happening, it still happens sometimes.
Takeout. One spa-type place. The occasional trip to Detroit. I've found those are the easiest ways to get off with the least chance of bad stuff happening. You do what you can.
discussion comment
5 years ago
@loper: I'll count your vote, but ... Reche is Spanish. As in from Spain. As in she might not have ever stepped foot in North America.
Soooo ...
discussion comment
5 years ago
I'm with JA.
I struggle to see this being a problem. What's the worst-case scenario? They track down your IP and figure out you're watching porn? That makes you, what ... just like every other person on the planet with access to Internet? And if you're paying for porn on top of what you pay for your device & internet, you're paying too much.
Hell, maybe it's a good thing. It'll out the stupid folks, or if it is IPs, it'll allow us all to finally say, "Yeah, we all watch it, it's no big deal."