discussion comment
5 years ago
Let's close it up. I'm having trouble picking with this one. I suppose, if I have to follow my own rules about "in her prime," I go Richards. However, I'd definitely want to get to her before Sheen laid a finger on her.
I'm a little surprised this one ended up with no 'Neither' votes. You're talking one woman who was synonymous with Hep C and another who was synonymous with a guy who slept around with AIDS. Don't get me wrong; I threw their pictures up because they're both damn nice to look at. But I'm also impressed you guys have truly ran with the mantra of "in their prime" and not let what's happened since impact your thinking.
RICHARDS: 20
ANDERSON: 8
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Not only does Richards move on, she steals the title of top vote-getter thus far (20) from Carmen Electra (15) by a pretty wide margin.
It does seem like the Celebrity Bracket is drawing more votes, likely due to familiarity. It's easier for you guys to form an opinion about women you know. That's understandable.
Also, it speaks to the nature of the bracket that Pamela Anderson, maybe the biggest sex symbol of the 90's, is out in the first round. However, this was a tough draw.
Richards may be popular now, but let's see how she fares when she faces the winner between Salma Hayek and Jenny McCarthy in the second round.
discussion comment
5 years ago
The thing I've learned is to just enjoy the moment.
Is she faking it to get tips? Does she really like you? Who cares? An attractive woman is dancing with you. Be happy about that!
Also, if she says you don't have to tip me, just take that at face value, too. She's probably just being nice. Don't go on a rant and make assumptions about why she's there or that she must like you. Say something like, "No, I don't have to, but I want to because you're worth it," or something cheesy like that. Maybe you even get a phone number at some point. But instead, no, you turned her from a person into a tip jar, and you also made it clear a night with her was only worth putting the cost of breakfast into that jar. Great work.
She was a good hostess. He was an idiot. And yes, we do get taken by ROBs sometimes. But that shouldn't make us so bitter that we believe every girl in the club is a money-grubber. Enjoy the ones who aren't.
discussion comment
5 years ago
Bumping this again because folks are still taking about Upton/Guerrero for some reason.
discussion comment
5 years ago
Since a whole bunch of the closed threads got bumped, I'll try and put this one back on top of the heap.
discussion comment
5 years ago
Coathook.
One you put it in the locker room, it probably is only coming out when you tear the place down.
discussion comment
5 years ago
Part of the premise of our modern ethos is that you can't necessarily control wo you're attracted to, but you can control how you act upon that attraction. Most people are straight (heterosexual), some are attracted to the same sex (homosexual), some to both (bisexual) and some to neither (asexual). Yes, heterosexuality tends to be the dominant trait over time because it's the combination that produces children. But, in my view, as long as both parties are consenting, whatever floats your boat.
That said, we restrict minors' ability to consent because their decision-making ability probably isn't up to snuff yet. It's not any worse an idea than not allowing them to do any of the other things we don't allow them to do, like drinking or voting. Sure, when you get close to the line, you're probably just as capable as many adults of handling it. But there has to be a line somewhere.
So if you're attracted to minors, it is a problem, as you could be doing damage to them, particularly if we're talking younger than 16 or 17.
I again refer back to the articles above. You can recognize your attraction causes problems and control how you act on it. There's a reason Savage gives credit to what he calls gold-stars. They're recognizing they have the feelings, but also the problems they can cause and not acting upon them. They're putting the greater good ahead of their own wiring. That's what makes us human; we can put our brains in front of our instincts.
That said, the article does even have a suggestion for those people to help themselves, which is voluntary chemical castration. It sounds unpleasant, but if it allows you to take your mind off something you shouldn't and can't do, anyhow, maybe it's a good thing.
As for me, while I like the schoolgirl look, I like it on a fuller figure (i.e. bigger boobs), which tends not to be the really young girls. So I'm not really worried personally.
But as someone who believes sex should be less taboo, this is something we should be talking about and making sure we're getting right so that people can't use the excuse that pedophiles are out there trying to defile our kids to make all sexual behavior seem deviant. I don't consider bisexuality or homosexuality problematic. It's just sex. We take it so seriously, but really, if you're not doing it to have kids and being safe, it's just another enjoyable hobby to pass the time. But pedophilia is problematic. Giving adults who are considering engaging help to avoid doing so seems like a good idea.
discussion comment
5 years ago
I think these Dan Savage articles are going to be very helpful to any serious conversation that will happen o n this topic:
https://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=12927907
https://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=3347526
review comment
5 years ago
The thing about OTB is that, while extras may be available, you'll pay at least $305 for the room, and that only gets you into a small, dark room that's smaller and less comfortable than those Detroit curtain rooms. With that, there's no guarantee the dancer will deliver, or that she won't ask for a tip on top of the room fee. And yes, while there are options for bigger rooms available, you'll pay more for them. The bigger room used to be $355. $415 is insanity.
While it's becoming clear to me that OTB is somewhat extras-friendly, you're going to pay more than you would in Detroit, and maybe even the south side of Chicago. OTC seems to be becoming more of a possibility there, too, but I was quoted $600 for it the last time I was there.
Wisconsin is an extras desert, particularly since The Hardware Store and TNT had some bad stuff going on. In the desert, you may be tempted to pay a lot for just a sip of water. You gotta step back and let the big head do the thinking. Is one BJ or HJ worth the price of a new laptop? Two Xboxes? A round-trip national flight? Four decent TVs? A weeks' worth of dinners at some of the region's best restaurants? With top talent, maybe, but I think OTB's talent, while decent to good, isn't as good as Chicago's, Detroit's, Vegas' or that of many other places where extras are the same price or less.
Just because Wisconsin extras are rare doesn't mean you should entertain them simply because you get a rare chance if the prices are crazy. It's difficult in the heat of the moment, but you've got to keep things in perspective.
review comment
5 years ago
A club in each of the 50 states is an interesting journey. Kudos to you just for trying.
Hippo is an ... interesting ... choice for Wisconsin, as it's a little off the beaten path. When the building went by the name Stars, it had a weird backstory. It was in trouble with more morality-minded members of local government and almost lost its liquor license in the last couple years, but also earned brownie points from the locals for taking in folks in need of shelter during a recent bad weather/roads situation. That said, for a more typical Wisconsin experience, visiting any of the Silk clubs, Beansnappers or Wisconsin Dolls probably would have been more representative.
It's good to not only see a review of the Hippo and how it's changed from Stars, but to see one from someone who's got a lot of club experience. However, it's also noteworthy that, ultimately, it doesn't sound like much has changed, notably the amount of contact. As such, there may be better Wisconsin options elsewhere.
review comment
5 years ago
You don't get the chance to go back and edit a review, Steve. Learn the lesson: Add lots of details, up front. Write like you're writing a newspaper column. See my reviews for examples; they're mostly well-voted for a reason.
discussion comment
5 years ago
The phrase "one for the road" used to literally mean getting one more drink to take with you. The "road beer" used to be a far more common thing. You'd buy a bottle at the end of your dinner or visit to the bar to drink on your way bal to wherever you were gong.
I like beer and drinks, but I rarely get smashed. I know my limit and, cliche as it may be, if anything, I drive a little more carefully when I'm buzzed because I know I'm buzzed and definitely don't want to get pulled over.
So yeah, if I were in a state where it was legal, sure, a good, cold beer in the cupholder on a warm summer night would probably feel just as good as the AC.
discussion comment
5 years ago
Closing time.
This ended up being the least voted-upon poll yet. In a way, it kind of makes sense, though: Folks are busy on the weekend, it had two lesser-known names and the novelty is wearing off. I feel a little bad about closing it, but we gave it the two requisite days, so be it.
My closing vote goes to Brimhall.
BRIMHALL: 8
NILE: 4
NEITHER: 2
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You know, when a few of you guys go crazy over one girl, it makes me think that's a sign of a bigger trend. In a way, that's been the case in both of our Model Bracket showdowns thus far. A lot of you liked Ashley Sinclair when I made her my profile pic, and a lot of you went gaga for Nile when I put the pictures up. And yet, both are gone in the first round. Sample size, and having a point of reference, matters.
Brimhall moves on. She will face the winner of what promises to be an interesting showdown between Gia Genevieve and the Potter twins.
discussion comment
5 years ago
Bumping this just so it's clear this is the active thread.
discussion comment
5 years ago
@shadow: It would be cool to have someone say, "Not guilty. Show me all the proof you want. In fact, I'll tell you. I did it. I paid her $300 for sex. But you know what? I feel no guilt about it. I'll pay your stupid fine. Heck, I'll serve the time if you want me to. And I will probably go out and do it again because I don't think there's anything wrong with it."
They'd say that's not how guilt/non-guilt works in the court, but it would be nice to see someone take a stand.
discussion comment
5 years ago
Time to bring it to a close.
I get the deciding vote. And I'm with @beekers: Harper is cute and the better looking girl of the two, but Avluv is a little nastier and more willing. I went to see Harper feature. She kind of ignored me and only focused on a bachelor party group that was there. Never had a chance to see Avluv in person, but I think she would probably be more personable and talented. Dillion, consider this revenge for not taking any of my dollars stageside.
Avluv it is for me and that tilts the scale in a comeback victory.
AVLUV: 11
HARPER: 10
NEITHER: 4
Avluv moves on in what I consider a bit of an upset. Experience beats out young and cute. You guys had your reasons, though.
That said, this part of the bracket feels weak. Avluv moves on to face Kira Kener, who advanced in a contentious showdown against the late Shyla Stylez. Whoever emerges from the group of Eva Angelina, Briana Banks, Jessie Jane and Madison Scott has to like their chances of reaching the Pornstar regional final when they take on the Avluv/Kener winner in the Round of 16.
Lastly, in a treat for those of you who actually take the time to check the results, here's a capper for the thread: A scene with Harper and Avluv together. I should have posted this to begin with.
https://www.cumlouder.com/porn-video/aaliyah-love-dillion-harper-and-veronica-avluv/
discussion comment
5 years ago
In this day and age, we should almost be happy they were using prostitute services and not harassing/banging their students/players.
I bet these guys were model faculty. They probably still are. You can like sex and still be a good person.
discussion comment
5 years ago
When you get home, throw your pants (or panties) in the oven and heat to 400 degrees. If you get bread, I think you've got one.
discussion comment
5 years ago
Closing time, not to mention that this one seemed to die on the vine for some reason. You guys must have decided to hop in all those other threads to ease your anxiety about the market today.
I'll add a Guerrero vote, but it won't be enough.
UPTON: 14
GUERRERO: 7
NEITHER: 2
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Kate Upton moves on pretty easily, though we found a few loyal Guerrero fans.
There's a good chance we'll have a SI cover model showdown in the second round, as Upton might be staring down a matchup against Rebecca Romijn. However, Romijn first has to get through her matchup against GoDaddy girl and former WWE Diva Candice Michelle.
discussion comment
5 years ago
I think WhoDey is onto something.
First off, while I do think clubs have declined some, I don't think they're in trouble. Various factors have meant they've had a bit of a market correction: Widespread broadband and Internet porn, Tinder, economic disparity, all the same stuff causing young people in general to have less sex. But they're still around and many still do well.
That said, if there's one thing the bracket is teaching me, it's that you guys do like variety. I may like those blondes, but you guys like variety. Also, I think young folks also like their own little obsessions. Clubs can do well to add the accoutrements we laugh at sometimes, ranging from WiFi to video games.
The clubs will find a way to survive. As long as there are horny guys looking for a place to privately embrace their horniness, and women and club owners willing to make money off that, there's a place for clubs.
discussion comment
5 years ago
Far hotter, not fat hotter. If I wanted fat hotter, I'd stay in Wisconsin. (Obvious joke.)
discussion comment
5 years ago
TBH, I club very little in Milwaukee anymore. The Silk clubs are having some issues, possibly related to their expansion from one club in Milwaukee to three. I feel like the talent's been diluted to problematic levels. There wasn't that much to begin with.
I prefer to club in Chicago or Madison. Worth the drive. Fat hotter talent in Chicago, and if I get hot and bothered in Madison, GH is there to finish me off.
discussion comment
5 years ago
One near me has one.
One has to remember that there are more than a few folks who club with no intent to buy dances. Party groups that want to feel a little wild by going to a club but aren't actually looking to get wild. The table gives those folks something to do.
Plus, yeah, it gets a few of the girls off their phones and interacting with the customers a little more.
discussion comment
5 years ago
Wisconsin and extras do not mix well at all. This is one area where Midwestern sensibility is a problem.
Also, I think there are a few clubs that have been a little extra vigilant on their already strict rules since The Hardware Store and TNT were closed after they were found to be the workplaces of human traffickers.
That said, if you pay the $305 or $355 for a room at OTB on the south side of Milwaukee, stuff has been known to happen with the right girls. This will not happen at any of the Silk clubs.
I had one experience at Club Bristol that took me by surprise. Dunno if it was a one-off or not, but the girl still works there on an irregular schedule. I can't tell you if and when she'll be in because I don't know, but she usually works day shift.
If you're looking for a sure thing, then yes, visit a place like the Geisha House.
If you're looking for a sure thing at a club, go to Detroit.
discussion comment
5 years ago
I'm bumping this one because, somehow, folks keep going back to the Electra/Witt thread. I get it, they're hot, but still.
This is the active one for the time being, kids.
discussion comment
5 years ago
LOLOL.
I'm realizing as I go that some of these are way more challenging than others.
Like I said above, Upton has the name recognition, but if you know Guerrero's work, she's tough to pick against.
This is as compared to another matchup we have coming, Pamela Anderson vs. Denise Richards, where, given how things have gone, I'm predicting the 'Neither' choice has a good chance of winning.