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14 years ago
Ranakam - Your setting yourself up to be a controlled cuckhold like the husband of a married stripper I have been doing about 3 years. I am approaching 200 sessions with her and POP is averaging $135. She describes her husband (third) as her soulmate and the love of her life on her FB page which I get to monitor daily. I did her the day before their wedding and as soon as she came back from the honeymoon. While she is a great fuck and super friend, I accept her for what she is (a prostitute).
You need to wake up and smell the coffee guy that your never going to own one of these gals - they do pretty much well what they damn well please. They do not believe in monogamy and the man who has more money than you is going to get to lease her for sex enjoyment as his mistress. She may stop stripping bc you mite be able to pay her bills but she wont stop the whoring with guys like me who are experienced strip club players. These girls get a lot of phone numbers during their stripping days. It is not uncommon for x strippers to go out with their x stripper gf for lunch at the mall and compare notes on guys they are doing for money. Mine does this I know with another one of her friends a married x stripper.
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14 years ago
At a club like Centerfolds - Houston (Westchase area) it is around $60 to go to the upstairs VIP (a pay as you go). Most of the girls at the club play and $200 can usually get you BJ / CFS. I have come there many times in the past, enjoyed their great lunch buffet and then some great sex with a view of the stage.
I have read a lot of the Hustle Hut SS from the bitches on SW about "upselling VIP." I have to laugh at that as unless they fuck, they wont be selling me anything. Nor will I pay more than say $60 just to take a gal in a vip room based on promises. I had some gal in LA try to sell me a $300 VIP promising to rock me. I asked her if I would get pussy and she played coy. I then offered $300 if she would meet me at my hotel room for BBBJ / CFS. She then walked off in a huff. Some of them out there are ROB's.
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14 years ago
Yes or they dont get paid. I dont pay some big amount just to take a gal to vip. In that situation if she wants to make money, she can see me otc at motel. I am ViP at a SE Houston club, consequently entry to VIP is free for me (otherwise $120). When I take a gal to vip the price of the serviced is negotiated before it happens. It may be say $200 for BJ then CFS. I might show her money or lay it on table. AFter service is over with she gets paid. Performance between different girls will vary. I usually go with one I have done before who was good.
Sometimes I will take a gal to vip and get a couple of dances then make her an offer for sex. If she does not play, I pay her for the dances, then I simply go downstairs and find another girl. Nowadays I simply will ask them if they play and negotiate the price of the service before I take them up to vip.
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14 years ago
Yes I also thought AM a rip off site like that site with the hot Russian girls then having to pay a fortune to email them. They could all be fake.
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14 years ago
Some of the gals are hot some aren't are don't even post photos.
I got to do a 24 yr old college gal screamer who did me CG twice for a total cost of $120. She said it had been awhile since she had sex. While she is an attrative sweet girl, but not a heavy weight big time star like a Ginger Lee.
I believe many of them will play for less than you think if they want to finds someone to get money from. Others probably expecting pie in the sky.
As far as finc data, the site does not verify it so one could give a slightly fudged up number.
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14 years ago
My fav is giving me 2-1-1 sex sessions otc (1st at $200-then next 2 at $100). Been doing her abt 3x week this way for awhile and this unfortunately keeps me out of clubs except when the desire for some variety and the SC expereince gets the better of me. Just had a $100 session today, it was great.
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14 years ago
While on business in LA I was at a club in Anaheim called Imperial Theatre. I ended up getting a bunch of dances from an 18 yr old tall brunette prob an inch taller than me (I am 5'11"). She was really hot, a UCI cheerleader and in this vip booth got to feel her really good. I offered her $300 for otc sex at my room but she declined.
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14 years ago
I am in Houston. Here are some actuals:
1. DancerA at Club 1 (SE Club - extras friendly) quoted me $250 for sex in VIP. She was very attractive brunette 20 yr old spinner. I passed as I had an otc session booked for next day at $100 with Dancer C.
2. DancerB - 6 sex sessions itc at $200, one at $100. She is 20 yo blonde spinner. All at club 1 except one at Centerfolds for $200 - I had to pay a $55 upstairs VIP entry fee there.
3. DancerC - Young married 28yo HW, used to dance at Club 1, she is currently giving me 2-1-1 sessions (1st at $200, next 2 at $100). Been banging her at motel abt 3x week and closing in on 200 total sessions over last coupla years - POP this yr averaging $135. All is otc as she no longer dances, she had put an ad years ago on seekingarrangement.com saying she required 5-10k month. She prob gets around $1200 mo from me over last coupla years. So much for her pipe dream.
Dancer D - 20 yo blonde spinner at Club 1 - 2 sex sessions in VIP at $200. She indicated she had been on backpage but no longer bc club will fire them if they post on bp. She does do otc but Dancer C keeps me so tied up with the 2-1-1 deals and is such a good fuck. She gives fantastic HJ foreplay before and gets on top during sex leaning fwd thrusting and has nice tight pussy.
In summary I have done Houston strippers both itc and otc over the last 7 years anywhere from $100 - $300. This is FS sex with usually a little HJ or BJ foreplay thrown at first. Entry to VIP at club 1 is $120 unless your VIP member like me (free entry).
Do not pay some expensive VIP fee and unless the Dancer will play and do extras do not take her to VIP or CR period! A lot of them are ROB so negotiate the extras price upfront. Ask her if she plays to get a feel if she is an extras girl. Strippers in Houston who dont play have tough time of it as they are facing fierce competition from extras girls and Backpage whores who offer $60 half hr specials. I think in a city like LA where there is more money POP will be much higher.
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14 years ago
As you become more experienced as a player you will be able to get pussy from strippers who will do otc at a good price. You will learn more in negotiating extras like FS. I have had them start out at $200 - $300 and talked them down to $100-$200. Just lay one or two Bens on the table and show her the money and say "Honey we can go up to VIP and do sex now at this or you can wait for your big spender (who prob doesn't exist.)" It will be hard for her to turn it down. Hey its easy money for her and all she has to do is give you pussy (no cost to her).
Once you get food at this your not just a player but a top gun!
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14 years ago
If they will meet you otc they will qoute you a price and call or text you to hook up. If interested in otc with her make her an offer (or agree on price) and get her phone number (this is critical). If she wont give phone then she prob fos abt otc. Others prefer ITC bc they are probably assembly line whores and see the club as a place where they play with 2 or 3 customers and then make their quota for the day.
If ITC business is good for them they have no motivation to play anyway. They will have a steady stream of players coming in they can fuck one right after the other. I had one tell me she can fuck ten men a day as long as she has half hr rest. Sometimes you will luck out and find one who will play otc and give you good reg / frequent flyer discounts itc like I did with WR1. Other gals, really hottie hardbodies will sitck to say a high figure they know they can always get like $300 from guys who can't get pussy otc, especially if it is payday. With WR1 who I meet entirely otc now that she has quit dancing and gotten married working in sales job POP is $125 average.
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14 years ago
I really think its too broad of a term. I perefer the term Heisman WR or RB.
There are two kinda Dancers IMO - WR's - girls who play and RB's girls who don't play but may give good dances. Irregardless what the bitches on SW say, they are all sex workers.
I run a 4WR, 1RB offense. So WR1 is the girl who plays I do the most, then for variety I have WR1-3. RB1 gives good dances but does not play. Recently at a club where I am VIP a 20yr old really sexy attractive spinner, H offered me FS in VIP at $250. I took her name (but deferred) and may do her sometime but I have WR1 with POP averaging $125. I took 3 really sexy dances with H getting to feel her really good. She moved my hand to her crotch area and I got to feel her there too at same time she was feeling my cock thru my pants saying "lets go up to VIP". When they will let you feel their pussy, thats a sign they will fuck. Being VIP I dont have to pay the $120 fee to go up there. I am sure I would have fucked her for $250 if I did not have WR1.
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14 years ago
Many dancers are x cheerleaders as my atf. Frankly, I simply prefer them nude.....
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14 years ago
If a dancer is HIV positive, she certainly won't be sharing that knowledge with anyone. Take a look at the lifestyle of your ATF: Is she an IV drug user, is her pimp / BF from a high HIV risk ethnic group, is she doing you without a condom.....
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14 years ago
I would say 1-2 hrs. My last visit was to the club about 2 weeks ago (I am ViP). I went on a Sat nite about 7pm finding the club not too crowded and just chilled for awhile. I then asked the coctail waitress if M or T were there (gals I had done recent itc FS with in VIP). T was available and I approached her at the bar. T (WR2) is 20, blonde spinner, and was in red sexy bikini outfit. She was excited to see me ($200 for FS) and had to do a dance set then we would go to VIP for fun. She is a good fuck but have not seen her otc. The sex is CG style and she does do HJ or BBBJ to warm you up. I dont do these gals itc as often bc WR1 (sexy 28 yr old petite blonde cheerleader type w big boobs) who I meet otc averages $135 POP. I watched T thru her dance sets knowing that when she was done we would go to VIP and I would get to fuck her. It gives you a rush sorta like a naval pilot ascending to the flight deck getting ready for a sortie. I tipped her a number of times. I took her up to VIP and fucked her and it was real good. She mentioned she had been on BackPage but does not do that now as club would fire her. We exchanged phone numbers and she said she would meet otc for $200. I was probably there for 1.5-2 hrs. In the meantime WR1 has kept me busy with sessions 2-3 times a week. This has the impact of reducing my club visits.
I do not spend too much on dances unless out of town in more expensive POP city like LA. In addition WR1 keeps me tied up offering bargain POP ($150-$200 1ST session of week then $100 any additional sessions that week.)
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14 years ago
I know of a number of them who have died in car accidents. A lot of these gals live for the moment and die young.
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14 years ago
I ask them if they play or work outside the club. Then I may make an offer. If they play, they may even proposotion you or quote a rate.
A gal I did itc for $200 in VIP told me she would see me otc for the same amount but I would have to get the room. Another I took to VIP said she did not "play" and after one $20 dance back downstairs I sent her.
The bottom line is to simply make her an cash offer (specifying what you want) which will float her boat. You can open the conversation about how her week has been and if mentions rent or bills then say "Well honey I can help with that but this is what I want...." Never, ever give them handouts or loans. If the drama gets too thick just enjoy it for its entertainment value.
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14 years ago
I would try to work on them for otc then.
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14 years ago
Yes the psycological con is part of their game and many are really good at this. Its easy for some guy to fall into the trap that she is somehow his GF especially if she is pressing those buttons.
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14 years ago
I agree with Chanel. She seems smart in picking Friday and is there to catch the on the way home from work married crowd. Those 2 for $20 dances sound like a great deal. I am sure she is at the mall on Saturday with her $200.
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14 years ago
I have been out there on business a few times and believe it would take at least 3 bills to get one of them and even then it might not be enough. I think POP is more in Cali (like everything else) than here in Houston. I did my fav for $150 yesterday and have her booked at same motel on monday for $100. Met her at the Ritz a couple years ago been doing her ever since.
Just make your fav an offer and see what she says.
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14 years ago
I believe she was expecting you to make an offer (for sex). If you have her number and would be willing to do her for $X then simply call her and make an offer. Trying to "date" them is a fools errand.
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14 years ago
My fav who I meet otc has a FB account and I am sure she prob uses it to get business.
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14 years ago
I don't believe race determines if a gal does extras. IMO its more likely the club.
I don't do black gals (much higher HIV risk and the Harris County stats confirmed this) - this is not race related decision just a personal risk avoidance stategy.