Your Definition of ATF

I think if she is the only reason I go to a particular club, she's my ATF.

For me it is the case now. I go to one and only one club and see her exclusively, which means I only ask LDs and VIP time from her, though I may stage tip a few other girls. And yes... I do hope to build a deeper relationship... Call my PL is anyone would like to :)

Here goes. First, I think many use the term for multiple dancers. I don't think that is the correct use, so I do not use it that way. I have an ATF and there was a deeper relationship till I cut it off. Stupid me! She hasn't danced in years, but I still see her socially at times.

The rest I enjoy are favorites, and they are favorites for different reasons as you mention. My two faves at the moment, one is beautiful, and we spend a lot of time talking. She is as close to an ATF that isn't one, and she gives good dances. The second, gives great dances, but I can't talk to her at all. vm knows them and can sort of talk to the latter.

There have been a lot of dancers I've had great conversations with, over multiple visits. Great, flirty conversations lasting a long time. Followed by some tremendous LDs/VIP time. I might go looking for them the next time I go to that club, or not. I might be in a mood to sample someone new. Just call me stripper commitment-phobic. But I define these as favorites, not ATFs.

ATF Advanced Tactical Fighter ATF(automotive) Automatic Transmission Fluid ATF Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms ATF Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (US Department of Justice) ATF Automatic Transmission Fluid ATF Advanced Technology Fighter ATF Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms ATF Armored Task Force (warfare game simulation) ATF Activating Transcription Factor ATF After the Fact ATF AJAX Toolkit Framework ATF Aviation Turbine Fuel ATF Acquire the Fire ATF After the Fire (Band) ATF ASEAN Tourism Forum (annual travel convention) ATF After the Fall ATF Advanced Tactical Fighter ATF All-Time Favorite ATF All Time Favorite ATF Arab Thought Forum (Palestine) ATF American Type Foundry ATF Above The Fold (web/print advertising) ATF As Trustee for (finance) ATF Amphibious Task Force ATF Fleet Ocean Tug ATF Arrived to Find ATF Air Task Force ATF Anterior Talofibular (ligament) ATF French Southern and Antarctic Lands (ISO Country code) ATF Automatic Track Finding ATF Across the Fence ATF ALMA Test Facility (Atacama Large Millimeter Array) ATF Albuquerque Teachers Federation ATF All Things Fresh (website) ATF Australian Temporary Fencing ATF Advanced Technology Fractionator (SeQual) ATF Articulation Task Force (Arizona State University) ATF Automatic Track Following ATF All Too Flat ATF Aviation Task Force ATF Automatic Terrain Following ATF Absolute Terror Field ATF Asynchronous Transmit FIFO ATF Auxiliary Tug, Fleet (Auxiliary Fleet Tug) ATF Anti-Tenure Factor ATF Across the Flat (geometry) ATF Administrative Task Force ATF Acceptance Test Facility ATF Area to Free (Cisco) ATF Astrometric Telescope Facility ATF Allied Tactical Force ATF Advanced Targeting FLIR (US DoD) ATF Aerodrome Traffic Frequencies ATF Animation Trace File ATF Aircraft Torque Factor ATF Automatic Test Facility ATF Area-Time-Integral ATF Adaptive Tracking Filter ATF Autonomous Thruster Facilities ATF Automatic Tracking Feature ATF Air to Torpedo Fire Control ATF Audit Transfer Files ATF Automatic Target Follow ATF Automated Target Folder ATF Average Transaction Frequency (credit) ATF Automatic Test Format ATF AUTOVON Test Facility ATF Alternate Treatment Facility ATF Aquatics Training Facility (US Army)

gf,

You missed one...

ATF A Typical FUCKIN'GAYTOR

Hmm. If you go to a club hoping to see that dancer. Check. If you see her and get lappers exclusively from her. Check. If you take a certain amount of money into the club and end up spending it all on her. Check. You leave after getting dances just from her. Check. You go to a new club for a change of pace and she sees you first and tells you she just started working there and you hook up again. Check. You go to the club and find out she no longer works there and you automatically think about scratching the club from your list. Check. You leave after finding out she is not dancing that night. Check. She is the one to bring up OTC possibilities. Check. Free MSOG. Check.

Going simply by the words of the term it ought to be the one dancer that you have enjoyed best.

I agree that many folks use ATF to mean their current number one. If their ATF leaves dancing they find another 'all time' favorite?

Personally I would regard using the term as a warning sign that I was getting too emotionally attached to a stripper.

"I've always hesitated to use it because I don't think I've ever had one."

Likewise. I don't usually use the term ATF because I feel like I haven't met her yet.

"ATF has always had a bit of a negative, you're-a-needy-PL implicit subtext."

There have been a few that might have become an ATF, but something always happened. She switched clubs, changed phone numbers, moved to another city, quit dancing, etc. Coincidence? Or could it be me?

In my mind, there can only be ONE ATF. She is your All Time Favorite as the label states and stands out in your mind over all of the other dancers you've even enjoyed, danced and spent time with ITC or OTC.

I have an ATF... spent about three years with her, she was my ATF from almost day one (actually, it was day two). She was the best and we had great chemistry and had some truly great times. She is the one that I've written about many times in these discussion topics. I don't expect the title will ever be given to any other.

I do have other favs, though, both prior to and since. I refer to those that I am seeing now as curr favs (current favorites). At the present time, I have three that I would call CFs. One of which has the potential to compete for the ATF title, but honestly, it's doubtful. I'm not saying that this CF is not that great, it's that my ATF was that perfect.

I did have one that I'd classify as an ATF but she has long since retired and we've lost track of each other.

These days I have several faves spread across multiple states and clubs. At times 2 or more in a given club. Works OK because if a fave becomes territorial before long she is no longer a fave.

There can only be one ATF. I lost the one I had, when she became my best friend.

To paraphrase the immortal Connor MacLeod, "There can be only one..." If you have more than one ATF, you're using the term incorrectly. My ATF is no longer dancing (well, as far as I know) or seeing me, and until someone comes along that outperforms her, she will remain my ATF. There's a girl I'm seeing now that comes close, and who definitely qualifies as a favorite, but she hasn't yet superseded my actual ATF.

ATF equals going steady in high school.

At least many seem to agree with a point I've tried to make many times. There can only be one ATF. Doesn't matter if you still she her, know of her, or even if she is still alive. All others are favorites.

sc,

gridget is still your ATF until someone supplants her!

I have a sense that most responses so far to this topic express some emotional attachments, which is not usual for most other topics where sexuality dominates the tone. This reinforces my belief that this industry is not all about getting laid.

The babe that moved down south to work at a casino. Ahhh, I miss you.

I think you can have multiple ATFs. Like it wouldn't be weird if you said "My all time favorite basketball players are Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, and Lebron James."

I'd say she's an ATF is she's among your favorites of all time, which means you've usually made trips to the club just to see her, and think about her a lot.

I really think its too broad of a term. I perefer the term Heisman WR or RB.

There are two kinda Dancers IMO - WR's - girls who play and RB's girls who don't play but may give good dances. Irregardless what the bitches on SW say, they are all sex workers.

I run a 4WR, 1RB offense. So WR1 is the girl who plays I do the most, then for variety I have WR1-3. RB1 gives good dances but does not play. Recently at a club where I am VIP a 20yr old really sexy attractive spinner, H offered me FS in VIP at $250. I took her name (but deferred) and may do her sometime but I have WR1 with POP averaging $125. I took 3 really sexy dances with H getting to feel her really good. She moved my hand to her crotch area and I got to feel her there too at same time she was feeling my cock thru my pants saying "lets go up to VIP". When they will let you feel their pussy, thats a sign they will fuck. Being VIP I dont have to pay the $120 fee to go up there. I am sure I would have fucked her for $250 if I did not have WR1.

gillydon,

Of course you are correct if you say All Time FavoriteS. Of course they would need to be completely equal! Would that be possible? Highly unlikely, IMHO.

Player,

You say, "I really think its too broad of a term." We are talking about a single woman! How is that to broad? No pun intended.

"I run a 4WR, 1RB offense."

Isn't that an illegal formation - too many (wo)men in the backfield?

Sure is a "broad" term!

i find it funny that back in my early days in tuscl's discussions i questioned the oxymoronic use of the term atf in a thread and not a single tuscl'er commented and now i find this. yes i'm rolling my eyes.

Damn, I learn something new every day. I thought it was all time fuck.

Given some of the comments above, perhaps "CF - Current Favorite" should be added to the glossary. Not sure if people would use it, though.

I got tired of typing curr fav... I like CF... actually, I think it's catching on, as I've now seen it on a few posts and comments (besides just mine)...

How about "The Girl I'm Fucking at the Moment Until a Better Option Comes Along"

TGIFTMUBOCA?

Well, I'm guessing that this may be a little impractical as an acronym, but for some reason the terms "fav" and "ATF" just give me the douche chills.

Player, I gotta' say I enjoy your posts, but if "fav" or "ATF" give me the douche chills, then expressions "are you a player?" of "do you play?" give me downright douche spasms. ;)

Must be a Houston thing. I fuck girls OTC from clubs all over the country, including Dallas and Fort Worth (but never made it down to Houston yet), and I can guarantee that if I used one of those lines in trying to secure my date for the night most of these girls would look at me like I'm high.

Not trying to take shots here and your gig obviously works for you, but do you really say it like that to them?

"I can guarantee that if I used one of those lines in trying to secure my date for the night most of these girls would look at me like I'm high."

@rickdugan - I guess you just don't have Player11's roguish charm.