OTC in SoCal clubs

Thanks in advance.

I know of some porn stars living in SoCal and they do escort sessions, well reviewed on TER. It is SoCal so the prices are sky high...Tijuana offers better value but i understand you want to avoid it. I would probably get tired of Tijuana myself considering I like variety and Tijuana is mostly hispanic women.

If your girl is popular she doesnt need otc money. She makes plenty. Afraid you're going to have to make a sky high offer.

what is a "sky high offer" ? probably more than they are worth

Real,

"Sky high offer" depends on the payee, not what others think.

Well, I know how much she makes on average. I haven't been clear on the post; I won't want to pay "sky high" amount. Though it seems like mikeya02 has the experience of paying "sky high" amount in socal for OTC sessions.

mikeya02: could you PM me more about your exp on socal OTC sessions please (if you had some)? And what exactly is your range of "sky high"? $1-2k?

i could care less about what someone spends for pussy, wtf do i care, i was simply wondering what he meant by sky high offer, $500/hr, $1000 hr?

@robbing1, how could you possibly know how much any dancer makes on average unless you are her pimp??

@Real123, I asked and got a reasonable answer. They say "strippers always lie", but there wasn't much for her to lie about that. Just trust me on that please, and please help me with my original post. NONE OF THE ABOVE answers my questions at all; I find this discussion section to be so useless because so many silly replies.

rob, that's because nobody wants to post that level of detail on an open Internet forum.

Also, just to be clear, when we read OTC we think of p4p sex, so I'm not sure why you needed to ask about the legality of it - prostitution is illegal just about everywhere except for certain counties in Nevada.

If you want to know about SoCal OTC, do a little research. The club reviews will give you some strong hints, and plenty around here have talked about places like COI. But don't get mad at us if we do not respond to dumb questions.

well said rick. seriously robbing, getting laid isn't an exact science, silly questions beget silly replies ;)

17 posts, so a newbie. Perhaps a bit of a break.

@robbing1 - like i said, unless you are her pimp and counting her money at the end of the night, every night she works, you have no way of knowing how much she makes, you are funny!

Yes, take it from the TUSCL "expert" with his ZERO reviews and 33 posts. Another newbie.

I wish that next to each members name they showed how many reviews and posts they had. Separate the newbies from the veterans. Yeah I know I could look them up but that is a nusiance when reading posts on the discussion board.

^^ i agree with shadow.

During the last revamp, I mentioned missing the numbers thing a few times. I don't recall anyone else doing so at that time. If we had numerous requests, founder might have returned the numbers.

Ok, I just sent the last 3 posts to F.

Robbing, Cheetah's is a nice "night" refuge for those beach beauties to earn some extra cash.

I have been out there on business a few times and believe it would take at least 3 bills to get one of them and even then it might not be enough. I think POP is more in Cali (like everything else) than here in Houston. I did my fav for $150 yesterday and have her booked at same motel on monday for $100. Met her at the Ritz a couple years ago been doing her ever since.

Just make your fav an offer and see what she says.

@Realist123, obviously I am not the pimp. I said I know how much she makes "on average." And I am just gonna ignore Realist123 of his effort of pinpointing trivia that has not much to do with answering my questions.

@shadowcat, you has such a good idea for a 69y.o. PL. Don't you think the editor/founder hasn't thought of that already?

mikeya02, @CTQWERTY, @Player11, thanks for staying on my topic. And you're right that CA generally has higher POP. I am actually hitting the club tonight, and I will ask the dancer about that. I'm kinda nervous about that 'cause I have not went over that OTC line before. Hopefully it won't turn out to be a big deal.

@rickdugan Do you think I am not uninformed? I know the legal boundaries, and I don't care about the Nevada. Also, I said I read and did some research to try answer the question myself. But I am asking for more personal experiences. It is your choice to provide that info or not on this board. Plus, there ARE people who wants to help by providing "detailed" info on this "open forum."

@people who think i'm newbie 'cause of low post/review numbers: I haven't been on TUSCL too long, and the number of posts/reviews do not completely reflect one's SC knowledge. Plus, I wouldn't want to have thousands of reviews/posts on TUSCL just to call myself vets. After all, we all are PL's. If you really want to call yourself vets, then be respectful to all the members regardless of their "rankings." I am not mad at anyone. I only said that some of the replies are "not helpful." If you don't want to provide help on the "discussion" board, then simply don't.

robbing, Where is your local club? What part of SoCal are you in? There can be differences in OTC opportunities depending on whether you're in San Diego, LA, OC, etc.

I would offer up that you visit zbone, but I don't think that you're gonna get the answers there that you seek. Zbone is great for ITC activity report, and finding out who the ROB's are. Not much detail on OTC stuff.

I have had a lot of OTC here in LA, but comparing my experiences to most is really apple & oranges, so I can't really offer too much advice there. Sorry.

lol oops - just saw in your first post that you're in SD. Isn't SD really low contact? If so, you'd think the girls there would be jumping at the opportunity to possibly bank OTC. But if the local PL's there are used to low-contact, and it's the only game in town, then maybe the girls are happy with what they make ITC, so they don't seek OTC opportunities. Just a thought.

I have to spout a little bit here. I am new to the hobby but it didn't take me any time to discover that I much prefer OTC fun after making the hook-up ITC.

Trust me. It is not hard to do. Just ASK!!

All these discussion threads about "OTC this" or "OTC that" are seriously boring.

Like I said; just ASK!!

Thanks lopaw on the contribution. I will try to discuss more about that by posting a brand new post because I figure I must be more specific with what i got around me.. =)

@robbing1. Unfortunately, your OP came across as though you might be LE looking for another stripe. Your persistent, argumentative and defensive style lends itself to the LE suspicion.

Keep in mind that most dancers are stripping because they lack any other marketable skill aside from offering their body for viewing, touching or penetrating. So it's flesh = $$ for most of them. If you are looking for sex with a stripper, all you have to do is say something like "gee, this would be a whole lot more fun if we were somewhere else all by ourselves", during a lap dance. With some strippers you will get a pretty quick understanding of what's available (or not), and with others it might be the next time you're in the club and get a dance from her. If you're not a real pushy a**hole, and you took a shower today, many girls will at least consider what you are suggesting, and give you some indication of their willingness to participate.

Negotiating a fair price is equally as simple. It's just sex. Done in private, on a clean bed, it has a par value of around $200 each. Ugly and fat girls get less; extraordinarily hot babes get more. San Diego prices might be 50% higher than South Dakota. But only a drunken fool would pay $1000 for sex...except with Vanessa Hudgens or Alexis Dziena or Megan Fox or.....

mmdv26: Do you really think those women are so much better at sex than the average run of the mill stripper/hooker? Or do you think the "star" factor makes it worth it?

For me, the answers are no, and no.

GMD, one thing i was wondering was that the looks of gals in your regular clubs. we was talking about San Diego gals, and IMO those gals might take advantage of the "star" factor. i truly think that girls in san diego SC are much better looking than ones in your clubs (is it kentucky)?

GMD, I think robbing1 is asking if Kentucky girls have all their teeth, lol.

robbing1: How many Louisville area clubs have you been to? I haven't even been in SoCal, much less been to any clubs there, so I have no basis for comparison, and unless you've visited clubs in my area, neither do you.

However, for the sake of argument, I'll concede for the moment that dancers in SD may in fact be hotter on average than girls here. My question was, is that extra worth 5 times what I pay on a regular basis, which is about $50 to $200, depending on what I consider to be a good value. Does that extra hotness, or star quality, translate into a tighter pussy, a more talented tongue, increased eagerness to please, or overall enjoyment to a factor of 5?

I'm guessing it doesn't, unless the looks are the thing for you. For me, sex is the think, and while looks is a factor, performance and willingness are way more important.

However, for the record, I will allow that many of the girls I've met have fewer than the full complement of teeth, even not counting wisdom teeth. One girl took her entire set out of her mouth one time, as an indicator of how good her blow job skills would be, I guess.

Most of the, though, seem to be intact.

GMD, I have not been to Kentucky clubs, so it wouldn't be fair for me to compare socal gals with Kentucky gals. But since you have been paying 50-200 for extras in Kentucky, I figured that the gal quality might be generally lower in Kentucky. To answer your question regarding on "value worth", I gotta try the gals in Louisville first..

For me, looks are a big factor because I'm still relatively young (no offense at all). However, looks are not the major factor. I gotta agree with "sex is the think, and while looks is a factor, performance and willingness are way more important."

Now, back to the "star advantage" concept; obviously there is not OTC sessions offered as much as Louisville from what I hear. You can see my recent post "Irony of San Diego." In it, I ask people how a certain San Diego club makes so much money without offering extras. idk too much about OTC, but the club literally restrict any ITC extras from happening.

Thanks for showing interest on my topic, btw.

"But since you have been paying 50-200 for extras in Kentucky, I figured that the gal quality might be generally lower in Kentucky."

You might say that, but without evidence, I don't know why you would. That's like saying because food is less expensive in KY, then it must taste better in SoCal.

Did you know that the tooth brush was invented in Kentucky? If it had been invented anywhere else it would have been named a teeth brush!

GMD, I said that for the "looks", not the "taste". Taste is one thing. But looks are another. For example, one must pay lots of money for high-end fried chicken restaurant. But that person might get the same satisfaction/taste (if not better) with KFC. Do you see where I am coming from?

Shadowcat, I LOL'ed big time with that teeth-brush comment.

@GMD I think most readers understand that the names I used are a convenient reference to a sexually desirable body type and face; but, some guys might place a greater value on f*cking (a person with) celebrity status.