OTC in SoCal clubs
robbing1
I have been a regular at my local club (in San Diego, see my reviews for specific name). From reading on TUSCL for awhile (recently read "SC networking"), I have finally brought myself into another question: To what extend are there OTC activities with clubs in southern California? I tried to answer it myself by searching for posts about it, but I'd like to hear more recent stories about it from y'all TUSCL vets.
I know about the clubs like the old Hawaii. But I'd like to know more about the OTC acts in socal (excluding TJ). It seems to me that other states of the good ol USA have dancers that make more dough from OTC sessions, as opposed to making $ by dancing. However, the gals at my local club do not seem to do any OTC sessions.
As an entry-level PL, I have been getting LDs only since last summer. I have found my ATF (does "ATF" also work for non-OTC dancer?), and I have been wanting to ask her out for some outside fun. She is one hot stoner + stunner, and she's pretty chill sometimes offering me some edibles (u know) inside the club. To you all guys, it might sound so easy saying "just ask her out", but I don't exactly know what the "game" is in socal clubs. Thus, I am asking y'all for any experiences like this in socal.
Have any of you vets gotten OTC sessions at fairly popular SC in socal? And to what extent, does socal law restrict the gals to offer OTC? And MUST you be the one asking first about it?
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"Sky high offer" depends on the payee, not what others think.
mikeya02: could you PM me more about your exp on socal OTC sessions please (if you had some)? And what exactly is your range of "sky high"? $1-2k?
Also, just to be clear, when we read OTC we think of p4p sex, so I'm not sure why you needed to ask about the legality of it - prostitution is illegal just about everywhere except for certain counties in Nevada.
If you want to know about SoCal OTC, do a little research. The club reviews will give you some strong hints, and plenty around here have talked about places like COI. But don't get mad at us if we do not respond to dumb questions.
Just make your fav an offer and see what she says.
@shadowcat, you has such a good idea for a 69y.o. PL. Don't you think the editor/founder hasn't thought of that already?
mikeya02, @CTQWERTY, @Player11, thanks for staying on my topic. And you're right that CA generally has higher POP. I am actually hitting the club tonight, and I will ask the dancer about that. I'm kinda nervous about that 'cause I have not went over that OTC line before. Hopefully it won't turn out to be a big deal.
Do you think I am not uninformed? I know the legal boundaries, and I don't care about the Nevada. Also, I said I read and did some research to try answer the question myself. But I am asking for more personal experiences. It is your choice to provide that info or not on this board. Plus, there ARE people who wants to help by providing "detailed" info on this "open forum."
@people who think i'm newbie 'cause of low post/review numbers: I haven't been on TUSCL too long, and the number of posts/reviews do not completely reflect one's SC knowledge. Plus, I wouldn't want to have thousands of reviews/posts on TUSCL just to call myself vets. After all, we all are PL's. If you really want to call yourself vets, then be respectful to all the members regardless of their "rankings." I am not mad at anyone. I only said that some of the replies are "not helpful." If you don't want to provide help on the "discussion" board, then simply don't.
Where is your local club? What part of SoCal are you in? There can be differences in OTC opportunities depending on whether you're in San Diego, LA, OC, etc.
I would offer up that you visit zbone, but I don't think that you're gonna get the answers there that you seek. Zbone is great for ITC activity report, and finding out who the ROB's are. Not much detail on OTC stuff.
I have had a lot of OTC here in LA, but comparing my experiences to most is really apple & oranges, so I can't really offer too much advice there. Sorry.
Trust me. It is not hard to do. Just ASK!!
All these discussion threads about "OTC this" or "OTC that" are seriously boring.
Like I said; just ASK!!
Unfortunately, your OP came across as though you might be LE looking for another stripe. Your persistent, argumentative and defensive style lends itself to the LE suspicion.
Keep in mind that most dancers are stripping because they lack any other marketable skill aside from offering their body for viewing, touching or penetrating. So it's flesh = $$ for most of them. If you are looking for sex with a stripper, all you have to do is say something like "gee, this would be a whole lot more fun if we were somewhere else all by ourselves", during a lap dance. With some strippers you will get a pretty quick understanding of what's available (or not), and with others it might be the next time you're in the club and get a dance from her. If you're not a real pushy a**hole, and you took a shower today, many girls will at least consider what you are suggesting, and give you some indication of their willingness to participate.
Negotiating a fair price is equally as simple. It's just sex. Done in private, on a clean bed, it has a par value of around $200 each. Ugly and fat girls get less; extraordinarily hot babes get more. San Diego prices might be 50% higher than South Dakota. But only a drunken fool would pay $1000 for sex...except with Vanessa Hudgens or Alexis Dziena or Megan Fox or.....
For me, the answers are no, and no.
we was talking about San Diego gals, and IMO those gals might take advantage of the "star" factor. i truly think that girls in san diego SC are much better looking than ones in your clubs (is it kentucky)?
I think robbing1 is asking if Kentucky girls have all their teeth, lol.
However, for the sake of argument, I'll concede for the moment that dancers in SD may in fact be hotter on average than girls here. My question was, is that extra worth 5 times what I pay on a regular basis, which is about $50 to $200, depending on what I consider to be a good value. Does that extra hotness, or star quality, translate into a tighter pussy, a more talented tongue, increased eagerness to please, or overall enjoyment to a factor of 5?
I'm guessing it doesn't, unless the looks *are* the thing for you. For me, sex is the think, and while looks is a factor, performance and willingness are way more important.
Most of the, though, seem to be intact.
For me, looks are a big factor because I'm still relatively young (no offense at all). However, looks are not the major factor. I gotta agree with "sex is the think, and while looks is a factor, performance and willingness are way more important."
Now, back to the "star advantage" concept; obviously there is not OTC sessions offered as much as Louisville from what I hear. You can see my recent post "Irony of San Diego." In it, I ask people how a certain San Diego club makes so much money without offering extras. idk too much about OTC, but the club literally restrict any ITC extras from happening.
You *might* say that, but without evidence, I don't know why you *would*. That's like saying because food is less expensive in KY, then it must taste better in SoCal.
Shadowcat, I LOL'ed big time with that teeth-brush comment.
I think most readers understand that the names I used are a convenient reference to a sexually desirable body type and face;
but, some guys might place a greater value on f*cking (a person with) celebrity status.