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7 years ago
Some of the clubs in the suburbs (near the airport or in Dearborn or south of the metro area) still have private VIP areas and offer decent value entertainment. A few suggestions, broken roughly into three tiers:
Top tier club:
Flight Club:
Medium tier clubs:
Landing Strip
BTs Dearborn
Subis
Cricket
Hustler
Lower tier clubs:
Bogarts
Henry VIII, North and South
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7 years ago
Regarding joc13: It will be interesting to see if other companies abandon Detroit in favor of other more entertaining cities.
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7 years ago
Unintended consequences?
There was a time when I used to avoid travel to or through Detroit. But then I discovered the merits of the Detroit strip club scene (with help from TUSCL among other sources) and started going out of my way to schedule meetings and other activities that took me to Detroit. If many others follow my pattern, this effort will have some unintended economic consequences for Detroit (business bankruptcy, conference and convention attendance declines, less travel and less tax revenue). I'd like to think that our political leaders had considered these factors, or at least had the foresight to track the economic impact of these efforts to regulate the strip clubs--- I know better than to give our political (and moral) leaders that much credit.
One other unintended consequence is that it will drive some of the dancers to other, less safe venues to ply their trade (as in the streets, escort sites, etc.).
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7 years ago
^ Let us know how that research project goes, Juice.
Best "medicine" for low sex drive--- novel partners (as long as they are of legal age and reasonably sexy!) and novel sexual experiences.
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7 years ago
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flagoonerEverything written by this member is a fact.
Where three consecutive "on topic" discussion posts is a miracle.
This site is so slick, you won't need lubricant anymore.
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7 years ago
OTC has its merits but it also has this downfall--- if you don't "click" with your OTC date (or she is much less attractive than you expected from her modeling photos), you're kind of stuck.
With ITC, if you don't click with your ITC date, you can always cut your losses and go back to browse the club looking for a better match.
In the situation you described, you might be been better off to stay in the club.
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7 years ago
I agree. No dancer names but I do recommend an exception to that rule if you encounter a ROB.
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7 years ago
With regards to flirting, there is much to recommend being personable, maybe even tactfully flirtatious, with a dancer or a waitress. This is a business where the dancer is not required to approach a particular customer. Nor is she required to offer everyone a dance and is certainly not required to accept a request for a dance or extras from a specific customer. Sure dancers are there to make money but they still have some choice regarding who to dance for. For many dancers, that choice makes strip clubs much more tolerable and safer than being an escort. The same goes for a waitress even if she is typically assigned to wait on specific tables. If you are personable and charming, you'll have a much better chance of getting her to accept your offer for a private dance.
That said, you can still be pretty direct with the waitresses. I've had good luck with compliments and tactful but direct inquiries. I've also had better luck when the club was not too busy. After all you are asking the club to pull a waitress off the floor and it helps if they are adequately staffed for the customers in the club. That said, I had one situation where I had to pay something like $20 to get the manager to allow the waitress to take a break from her duties and provide me a private dance. But ii was worth it. This woman was beautiful and sexy. She was relatively new to the strip club business and had privately contemplated dancing. Turned out that she was not shy in the VIP and I left as a happy customer.
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7 years ago
From trainwreck, why your Mom and I are divorced:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNfUhSnJk4U
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7 years ago
Metro Detroit is pretty simple. A small VIP access charge to the club, typically 10-20 dollars (but more in a few clubs) and a fee that is negotiated with the dancer. Dancer fees depend on the club, the dancer, the services negotiated and especially the negotiating skill of the customer. That said, it is not unusual to go home happy for $200 or less. Often times the dancer pays a per song fee to the club out of her take.
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7 years ago
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san_jose_guymoney was invented for handing to women, but buying dances is a chump's game
One of your most succinct, on topic posts ever! Well done.
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7 years ago
Now if the clubs offered an option to take a nap and wake up for round #2????
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7 years ago
MrDeuce has been a busy man and has some disposable income! Well played!
Accomplishments this year, all ITC: extras with 12 different dancers, mostly BBBJs and CFS. On rare occasion, covered Greek.
Good to have some goals. Mine:
1. convert a particular dancer at one of the clubs that I visit to an ITC extras girl. This is a goal nearly every year, but with a rotating list of dancers. Sometimes I'm successful, mostly not. But that's the nature of goals.
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7 years ago
Are petite women typically tighter than larger women? Maybe that’s why I prefer spinners.
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7 years ago
My how porn has changed.
I can recall being really excited with National Geographic included photos of topless African women.
Or maybe I've changed!
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7 years ago
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shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
I agree with lopaw and wave 2 feminism (see eyeofodin). I think of feminism as being defined by equal rights, equal responsibilities and equal wages (for equal work). It is a civil libertarian model extended equally to both men and women.
Here's one test--- should a man have the right to make a living in whatever manner he want, even if it uses his body and physical characteristics. Surely he can be an athlete, or a laborer, both of which take advantage of a man's physical characteristics or capabilities. How about a male model or a male stripper or gigolo?
With this model of feminism, I don't see anything inconsistent about espousing equal rights and responsibilities across the sexes and still making a living as a model, stripper or even as a sex worker.
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7 years ago
Love the quote from the newspaper article:
"Andrea has always felt called to work with youth and is very excited that God opened the door for her..."
Let's chalk this one up to missionary (position) work.
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7 years ago
Most dancers have no idea that 'Queen for a Day" has nothing to do with LBGT life style.
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7 years ago
Yet another reason for me to give money to the ACLU and not to either of our major political parties.
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7 years ago
I prefer a VIP session based on time to a session based on the number of songs.
For some songs, it can be difficult to tell when one song ends and another begins. Also some clubs truncate the songs at 2.5 or 3 minutes, thus the number of songs adds up quickly.
In many of the metro Detroit clubs, there is no obvious song count or timing --- just an agreement for services.
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7 years ago
Don't forget to hold the beer consumption as a constant factor in your comparison.
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7 years ago
The rush to judgment without any due process or verification of accuracy of the accusations is very troubling. It could end up discrediting what is otherwise a long overdue accountability for unacceptable abusive and coercive behavior. Think what will happen if (and when) some of these allegations are revealed to be spurious and self-serving. Will it cast a shadow over all of the other accusations and the accusers? "Trust but verify" and "due process" principles need to be inserted into this movement.
Also, there is some need for nuance-- telling an off color joke or propositioning a female coworker (once and politely) is not equivalent to a pattern of harrassment and physical or power based coercion of a sexual nature.
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7 years ago
It would certainly dampen my enthusiasm for strip clubs if we get to a stage where we have to ask the dancers to sign a legally binding form that gives their consent to be touched during a lap dance.
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7 years ago
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joc13firmly on the Atlanta United bandwagon!
If not mistaken, a few barber shops have featured topless stylists. Besides you can have some fun under one of those barber shop capes with a motivated stylist.