"I'm a Feminist, But I'm Also A Victoria's Secret Model Too"
shailynn
They never tell you what you need to know.
Uh, I don't think it works that way. Is that like me trying to claim I am Vegan but also say in the same sentence I had some McNuggets at McDonalds today?
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Amazing.
Please explain how that works because I must be missing something here?
I'm a hard core monger and also a feminist. Most civvie women would consider me a traitor to womankind and claim that I am more guilty of oppressing and victimizing sex workers than men are. They would be wrong, of course but that's how they reflect their feminism. That's not my kind of feminism. My feminism is all about equal opportunity and fair wages, not sexual suppression.
Here's one test--- should a man have the right to make a living in whatever manner he want, even if it uses his body and physical characteristics. Surely he can be an athlete, or a laborer, both of which take advantage of a man's physical characteristics or capabilities. How about a male model or a male stripper or gigolo?
With this model of feminism, I don't see anything inconsistent about espousing equal rights and responsibilities across the sexes and still making a living as a model, stripper or even as a sex worker.
If you look at the numbers, the third wave is almost universally rejected (depending on the survey 70%-90%) by both females and males alike yet is what is being taught in universities and pushed as the Utopian movement in the media. Sadly, the advancements made over the last 100 years + of equality feminism are being disregarded as passe by the more for lack of a better term radicalized anti male / anti establishment modern feminism. IMO.
There was a time that an ERA era feminist was glad to have a man hold the door for them, then in the late 70's early 80's the change in ideology started to occur and women would get offended by what was once considered a polite gesture. I make this point as an example of the rejection on third wave feminism...when was the last time you held a door open and got chewed out for it?
The validity of her statement depends on the era you were born, educated, came of age and form of feminism one embraces..
I wonder if they would want “the good old days when men paid attention to them” back?
Just like anything else, too much isn’t a good thing. There has to be a happy medium.
Totally agree. I've often wondered the same thing. Unfortunately, I think most women can hold out a lot longer than we can. If we choose to "play chicken" with them, our species will end for sure LOL
The puritanical feminism is just one strain.
And unfortunately most of our South Bay White dancers would be well described as shit heads.
SJG
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I call bullshit on this. LOL
Not all strains of feminism are anti-sex or puritanical.
SJG
*Real* feminism is simply about being in control of one’s own life, without being limited by social conventions or other people’s notions of what a woman should be or do.
*Real* feminism allows a woman to be a construction worker *and* a housewife. If *she* desires it.
The first strain is more from the Victorian Era reform movement.
The second is more from Simone de Beauvoir's 1945 'Second Sex', and is developed in the same way as is Existentialism and Marxism.
SJG
And of course we all understand this, Wives and Mothers versus Aunts and Lovers. And then Good Girls vs Bad Girls.
And yes, most women do seek to be able to transcend these restrictions.
And yes, this is a strong current in feminism. And those who follow it are not going to want to restrict female sexuality and sluttiness.
SJG
As with any other movement, others have coopted the term for their own political purposes. Some to attack feminism by painting it as something it is not and others to lend support for their own fringe ideas that would get no support otherwise.
We mongers and PL's should support feminism. Women should feel empowered to undress for those willing to pay them.
It's like talk of equal pay. The latest wave of feminists like to talk about equal pay like at 76 cents to the dollar instead of equal pay for the same jobs and work. 76 cents to the dollar groups the pay of everyone, female waitresses compared to male engineers and everyone else and then arguing that's not fair that one gender doesn't makes as much as another gender on average. They don't argue for a female engineer to make as much as a male engineer doing the same work because you don't find much difference if any. I can imagine this progressing at the detriment of men by our government cutting funding or adding funding for females who want to major in higher paying degrees. Both men and women might apply to study and women in the future might work the laws in their favor at the expense of men by claiming unequal pay across the nation and cut funding for scholarships or use tax payer money and restrict funds for males to study STEM degrees. I see the latest wave of feminism as anti male. The younger male ME generation I read has rejected marriage in large numbers and women will pay a price I believe. I have a negative view of feminism based on all the anti male unfair policies feminists have been imposing all in the name of equality. I usually stay quiet since it seems like the feminazis have won.
I'm ok with progressive taxes and equal pay for equal work but I don't care for all the feminazis talk about unequal pay of waitresses versus engineers and everyone else thrown in. If I make more money, I'm ok with paying more tax. When I was younger I was ok with the possibility of getting drafted for combat but never liked the idea of the draft. I still don't like the idea of drafting young females for combat. I expect the US to be one of the first countries to do so to be equal when we are not in many ways. Each sex has advantages in general. Ok I'm rambling on after waking up in the middle of the night. Sorry.
Yeah, what flagooner said.