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Black club VIP vs Mixed club VIP.

shadowcat
Atlanta suburb
From my experience most black clubs charge a room fee typically $25-50 and then the dancer charges by the dance usually about $10-20.
Whereas the mixed clubs seem to charge a room fee ranging from $50-100 for 30 minutes and the dancer then charges by her time rather than by song count. That can range a lot depending on services.

If the services offered were the same which option of payment would you prefer? I prefer by the time but I have had occasions where the dancer just wanted to rush through things so she could get back out on the floor. Of course they never get any repeat business from me.

My meager experiences with by the dance have found a lot of dancers dragging things out to get more dances. But if price is a major concern this is probably the cheapest way to get your rocks off and go home.

12 comments

  • san_jose_guy
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    7 years ago
    ^^^^^ Front room makeout session, and then when it is time for your own pants to come down, you invite her to the back room, for the ITC maximum.

    Then take her home with you and keep seeing her regularly.

    You won't have much of the above sorts of problems.

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  • joc13
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    7 years ago
    There have been times at Follies where I get so worked up from the floor dances that by the time I decide to go to VIP I'm like the old commercial with the owl:

    How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Jocsie Pop? 1, 2, 3, pop!

    Paying by the song would have been cheaper.

    Most of the time, though, I don't want to have to worry about counting songs, and just prefer the fixed amount of time. I just set my phone somewhere I can keep an eye on time.
  • san_jose_guy
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    7 years ago
    Fixed amount of time makes great sense, as does front room fraternizing, and the best of that is you picking the girl and letting a front room makeout session develop.

    Won't have problems in the back rooms when done that way.

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  • Papi_Chulo
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    7 years ago
    There are clubs, whether mixed or black, that dances are one price on the floor, and another price in VIP (e.g. from what I've read HiLiter in Phoenix comes to mind).

    In the black clubs I've hit (Atlanta and Miami) where I've done VIP, I have gone by block-payment every time except once that I went by song-count - $10/dance in VIP is the black clubs is sort of the "default" but not necessarily the norm - I've done VIP on more than one occasion at both Babes and Blaze in ATL and it was always a block-payment vs a per-song payment (and that would be either for VIP dances or extras - i.e. you can tell the dancer let's do 30-minutes of dances for $X or let's do extras for $Y, for 30-minutes irrespecive of songs) - done the same at the Miami black clubs and IME one gets the room for 30-minutes although more often than not they don't come back to check on you since IME the VIP rooms are not used that often so it's not as if there are people waiting for them - only once at Blaze did I have someone tell me my time was up, in the Miami spots I at times have stayed closed to an hour w/o anyone bothering me.
  • Papi_Chulo
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    7 years ago
    In the black clubs I hit I pretty-much always do a block-payment b/c dances are hard enough to keep track off on the floor let alone in the out of the way VIP room where my mind is usually much more "distracted"
  • Electronman
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    7 years ago
    I prefer a VIP session based on time to a session based on the number of songs.

    For some songs, it can be difficult to tell when one song ends and another begins. Also some clubs truncate the songs at 2.5 or 3 minutes, thus the number of songs adds up quickly.

    In many of the metro Detroit clubs, there is no obvious song count or timing --- just an agreement for services.
  • JackScott
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    7 years ago
    One thing I find interesting is that the strip club is a perfect working model of how capitalism, business, and the free marketplace works. There's that fine line between being profitable without alienating their customers. They have to consider whether it's better to provide value added services for a premium price or if it makes more sense to make their services affordable while making up the difference in volume. And it's also an active learning curve for the dancers. As mentioned above, some of them just want to get as much money out of you as they can for the least amount of time spent while others do a better job of selling themselves so they steadily have repeat business.So the dancers have to consider whether it's better "juice" someone who they may never see again or if they do better investing the time and patience that it takes to win a regular paying customer.
  • skibum609
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    7 years ago
    Spur of the moment so I don't have a preference.
  • san_jose_guy
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    7 years ago
    ^^^^^^^ Do you want to give your girls a nice fucking? Are these special facilities the key to that, at least for the first time, and then to start seeing her outside?

    SJG
  • Rickberge
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    7 years ago
    Yea I think Im a change my SC strategy. Instead of paying for songs, I will pay for time. I will only do this with dancers that I know will deliver (extras,etc.. ). Keep some money just in case I want to test drive a dancer for one or 2 songs.
  • Cashman1234
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    7 years ago
    I’ve stayed away from vip and it’s associated fees for a few years now. When I did vip - it was usually the time - and it was ok.

    I’m indifferent to the options. In my view - when I get to vip - I want to relax and not count dances. So the time option might be preferable.
  • san_jose_guy
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    7 years ago
    Mr LDK82 wrote, "I don't go in strip clubs to fuck or even seek intercourse. straight up outercourse. I go to escorts and civvies for intercourse. That way, I'm already OTC."

    So then why spend your time and money at strip clubs at all?

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