Advice for waitress dances?

22 comments

• san_jose_guy

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  7 years ago

  Never treat the women in strip clubs any differently than you would treat any other woman. So of course you flirt with them. Never act like money buys them or buys sexual services. It is merely a show of respect, for the fact that they are there to get money and pay their bills. Waitresses can be lots of fun. SJG
• Papi_Chulo

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  7 years ago

  If you're not a newbie you sure could have fooled us with a 6-part question, but it's ok
• ThinnestRazor2000

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  7 years ago

  Thanks for the reply; Just to be clear, the thing that I’m unsure of is when the flirting transitions into business so to speak. So after I’ve flirted with her for a bit, do I just bring it up directly after having sort of suggested it or do I just keep hinting at it? I feel like that’s the difference between success and getting like slapped.
• NaturalSelection

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  7 years ago

  Like newbie strippers, they don't know how to handle themselves in the VIP. They have a hard time saying no and setting limits. So. Ask her dance nude, then eat her pussy, make her cum, and tell her you want to see her after her shift. It just might work.
• san_jose_guy

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  7 years ago

  Most time and attention costs money in a strip club. And you can always make up any excuse to hand a girl money. Just don't make it like you think that buys her. So starting off with a gratuity is a good idea. But don't try to talk her into sex acts or sex acts for money. Treat her like you just met her at a college party. If it is to verbally get more explicit, or if there is to be talk about money, it has to start with her. The more open and honest and matter of fact you can be in letting her get to know you the better. It makes you the 1 in a 1000 which she deals with who is not a liar. The more she is listening to you, the better. SJG Lee Atwater, Nigger Nigger Nigger [view link] Paul Weyrich - "I don't want everybody to vote" [view link] In the fiction of Andrew Vachss, his protagonist Burke sometimes does jobs for Mossad. Though they make it look narcotics related, they execute ped*ph*les. [view link] The End of Public Education, 12/27 show [view link] Edwyn Collins [view link] Black Keys [view link] Miles Kane [view link] White Stripes [view link] Jolene [view link] Jefferson Airplane - White Rabbit and Somebody To Love, American Bandstand, 1967 [view link] Please Don´t Let Me Be Misunderstood- The Animals [view link] Sarah Connor - Son Of Preacher Man [view link] Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow - Amy Winehouse [view link] judy henske - high flying bird - 1963 from HOOTENANNY [view link] Jefferson Airplane [view link] Jefferson Airplane "The Other Side of this Life" [view link] Jefferson Airplane - Eskimo Blue Day (1970) [view link] Jefferson Airplane - Wooden Ships [view link] Have You Seen The Saucers? [view link] Jefferson Airplane with Signe Toly Anderson ( first album, Takes Off, Grace Slick was obtained later from The Great Society) [view link] [view link] [view link] House At Pooneil Corners, before the Beatles Roof Top Concert [view link]
• san_jose_guy

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  7 years ago

  "flirting transitions into business" It has to come from her, otherwise you are treating her like a prostitute. Don't EVER do that. Treat all women as civilians, and in all situations. Be sure it is a girl you like, meaning one you would want to be waking up in the mornings with. SJG
• ThinnestRazor2000

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  7 years ago

  Should I try some dives instead of more well known clubs where things are generally looser?
• Papi_Chulo

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  7 years ago

  Strip clubbing is not rocket science and does not require a college degree to figure it out. Everyone working in a strip club is there to make as much $$$ as possible, thus the absolutely easiest way to get something in a strip club is to just ASK, it's a BUSINESS and they are ther to make $$$ by providing services. You don't need to "flirt' with anyone since you are not trying to pick up anyone nor is the staff interested in being picked up - strip clubs are all about MONEY - certain staff will do certain things and certain staff won't, all you do is ask and they either are willing to take your $$$ and give you what you want, or not.
• ppwh

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  7 years ago

  1) Am I supposed to flirt with her first for a while and sort of suggest the idea of a VIP dance, or do I just ask if she’s willing and say it straight up? The former. It works out better if you can build tension before going back. 2) Since they are waitresses, I’m assuming pricing isn’t consistent. Do I name a price or does she if she wants to partake? Is it like negotiation, or do some clubs have actual rates for waitresses but they just aren’t advertised? From what I understand, either it's a dancer serving as a waitress and the price is the same as any other dancer, or "any female in the club can do a champagne room" in which case champagne room rates apply. 3) Is their anyway of knowing whether a club allows VIP waitress dances? Like do I have a better chance at like a dive or it doesn’t matter the quality of the club? You can ask the waitress. 4) My buddy said that one of the ones he did was fully nude and contact (like spanking and groping) and the others were semi nude. Do I need to discuss ground rules with waitress since they aren’t clear cut? And how would I go about doing that? You can ask: Can I spank and grope you if we go back there? 5) Provided I get the dance, so I expect the same service as a stripper or is like a different set of standards? All women are individuals, including the waitress. 6) Will the bouncer kick me out trying to get a dance from a waitress? I’m definitely not going to be rude or anything, but would they kick me out if that club forbids it or something? No. If she doesn't dance, she will say something like "I am your waitress" in a stern tone. You would have to be an ass who keeps harping on it to get a bouncer involved.
• Papi_Chulo

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  7 years ago

  Waitress dances is club dependent, some clubs allow them some don't, IME. Dancers gotta pay house-fees and other tipouts to dance in a club thus it would not be fair to allow waitresses to give dances whom do not have to pay the fees and tipouts dancers do. In my limited experience, I've had to pay a higher dance-fee for a waitress dance of which the club gets a cut to make up for the waitress not paying a dancer-fee - e.g. in a club where dances were $25, a waitress dances I think was $30 or $35.
• ppwh

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  7 years ago

  > e.g. in a club where dances were $25, a waitress dances I think was $30 or $35. Not bad!
• Jascoi

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  7 years ago

  one time on the road i stopped at a sc in the south and did a lapdance with the smokin hot shot-girl... seems that the dance was 20% higher.... and she was playful and HOT!!
• ppwh

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  7 years ago

  > one time on the road i stopped at a sc in the south and did a lapdance with the smokin hot shot-girl Help a brother out! I get it if you don't want her stretched out by juicebox69's coke can, but as a Burt's Bees guy, I'll leave her in pristine condition.
• Papi_Chulo

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  7 years ago

  If she's hot enough for custies to want dances from her and she's a waitress means she's probably not interested in giving dances and/or may not be good at it. In one particular visit I was not feeling the dancers and decided to experiment with 2 waitresses and one shot girl, all 3 pretty-much did not know what they were doing w.r.t. dances although they tried - and one of the waitresses I got dances with was def the hottest chick in the club
• ppwh

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  7 years ago

  > If she's hot enough for custies to want dances from her and she's a waitress means she's probably not interested in giving dances and/or may not be good at it. Either that or she doesn't have time to waste with the pathetic customers pawing at her, but is more than down for a dance with a RICH STUD.
• Call.Me.Ishmael

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  7 years ago

  In order... 1) Flirting not necessary unless you like flirting. Just ask "Can get a dance with you?" Pretty quickly, you'll find out the club's policy. 2) Pricing being variable or consistent depends on the club, if waitresses are even allowed to give dances. 3) See item 1. 4) Ask her "What's allowed and what isn't?" Just like dancers, they set their own limits. 5) Depends on the club. Depends on the waitress. No set standard. 6) No. Just don't be a dick.
• shadowcat

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  7 years ago

  One consideration has to be license requirements. Some cities require dancers to be licensed.
• Liwet

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  7 years ago

  Waitresses need all the same licenses as dancers do in order to work in clubs.
• Electronman

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  7 years ago

  With regards to flirting, there is much to recommend being personable, maybe even tactfully flirtatious, with a dancer or a waitress. This is a business where the dancer is not required to approach a particular customer. Nor is she required to offer everyone a dance and is certainly not required to accept a request for a dance or extras from a specific customer. Sure dancers are there to make money but they still have some choice regarding who to dance for. For many dancers, that choice makes strip clubs much more tolerable and safer than being an escort. The same goes for a waitress even if she is typically assigned to wait on specific tables. If you are personable and charming, you'll have a much better chance of getting her to accept your offer for a private dance. That said, you can still be pretty direct with the waitresses. I've had good luck with compliments and tactful but direct inquiries. I've also had better luck when the club was not too busy. After all you are asking the club to pull a waitress off the floor and it helps if they are adequately staffed for the customers in the club. That said, I had one situation where I had to pay something like $20 to get the manager to allow the waitress to take a break from her duties and provide me a private dance. But ii was worth it. This woman was beautiful and sexy. She was relatively new to the strip club business and had privately contemplated dancing. Turned out that she was not shy in the VIP and I left as a happy customer.
• Subraman

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  7 years ago

  My true advice is: bitch, get over the fucking waitress and this juvenile "I can't get her so I want her" thing! Just teasing, of course, you can want whoever you want, but with only rare exceptions, it's self-defeating ridiculousness (especially the faux-pride in "getting" the "unobtainable" waitress) when better experiences can be had anywhere. But if that's how you're wired, that's how you're wired. In general, nearly every instance I know of guys getting dances with the waitress end in some level of disappointment -- and worse yet, high $$$ disappointment. There are exceptions, I've read (right here on tuscl, I think) of the rare unicorn awesome waitress experience. But for the most part, expect to pay a lot for a disappointing dance, plus expect some probability that she'll lead you on and tell you that you can do a dance later, during which time you will obviously well over-tip her, and then at the last minute "my manager says I can't, they changed the rule"... happened to a buddy of mine, she played him good. All of THAT aside, different clubs have different rules as far as taking the waitress in the back, so you'll have to find out at the club. In every club I've been in that allows this, it works like this: 1. The waitress gets a premium on the dance price 2. There MUST be a regular stripper in the back, too, which means you're also paying for that regular stripper, unless you have a wingman who will pay for the stripper and you'll do your dances together 3. It's completely at the waitress's discretion as to whether she accepts the dance. So while "flirting" might have connotations that are a bit too romantic, in some clubs it will pay to be personable, charming, and unthreatening, so she'll be more likely to say yes
• mark94

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  7 years ago

  Having waitresses dance can diminish drink service and cause conflict with dancers. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it at a “nice” club. At the other extreme, I know one dive club where all dancers double as waitresses. So, what’s the fun in that ?
• san_jose_guy

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  7 years ago

  In most places strip club dancers do not need licenses. First thing to do is find out why she is a waitress and not a dancer. Maybe she is not sure yet if she wants to dance, maybe she is getting acclimated. Or maybe she is backing out because she now has an SO. You want to find this out. Get her onto your lap, waitresses can be fun. Not yet learned how to do the hard hustle. May not know all the rules yet. You don't have to push it to a dance. Front room makeout session, then maybe the back room, but maybe civilian dating, ASAP. Offer contact info and get contact info out of her. Always treat her as a civilian. Often waitresses are intrigued by the sorts of attention which dancers get. Seen this often and engaged with them. Often easier to talk with the waitresses than the dancers. SJG Karl Marx [view link] North Korea accidentally hit one of its own cities with a missile, report says: [view link]