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I thought this was an interesting point. verbage /ver'b*j/ n. A deliberate misspelling and mispronunciation of verbiage that assimilates it to the word `garbage'. Compare content-free. More pejorative than `verbiage'. vs ver⋅bi⋅age    /ˈvɜrbiɪdʒ/ [vur-bee-ij] –noun 1. overabundance or superfluity of words, as in writing or speech; wordiness; verbosity. 2. manner or style of expressing something in words; wording: a manual of official verbiage. So perhaps the thread SHOULD be retitled VERBAGE Used In Reviews, since it usually is assimilated with garbage.

a 'friend' of mine went to see Teri Weigel in Charlotte,NC a few years ago and arranged one of her You Be The Star sessions where he go 30minutes with her in a hotel room, 'directing' his own video of her. Basically he got a chance to grope his favorite Playboy bunny and got jerked off by her. Cost $2,000.00 The next night he and I went to see her perform at the SC she was at and she acted like she didn't even know him! Matter of fact I paid $25 to take a picture with her just to rub it in to him. He response was, well, she did jerk me off. I said for 2 grand you should have been able to fuck her in ass and wipe your dick on her hair!!! Rip OFF!!!

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OK so I'm a white guy who likes black SC's. My first real 'extra' was one night during the winter. I used to go and get grind offs because there was a lot of police action in the area and didn't want to get nailed. There was a dancer who I liked for grinders bacuse she had great tits and would let me grind her down with her hips and play with her tits at the same time. She had tried a few times to 'open me up' but i never went for it. So one night, sort of late, I go in and shes working. We have a drink and she's had a few by then. We go to the VIP, which is basically a closet with a couch like chair. She starts her dance and BANG, the power goes out. No shit. The emergency lights come on and someone yells out that the lines probably snapped under the ice and an emergency breaker would kick on in about 3 minutes and to stay put. We were both standing, completely in the dark and I decided 'what the hell' I pull my guy out and put it in her hand. She stroked me for a minute and then shocked the hell out of me by kneeling and taking me in her mouth. She said between breaths that she knew I wasn't a cop so I was safe. She pressed me against the wall and went for broke. I tried to warn her and let her know I was close but she held tight and took all I had. Swallowed it down. She didn't JUST swallow, she swallowed and held on until I was done twitching. I was semi-hard when at the same time the lights came on and she was slowly expelling my member from her pretty red lips. We had several others and I even got to fuck her bent over the chair once. She was an ATF for a year or two. But that was the first real extra.

There are a few of my ATF's who were much more liberal with extras if they had a few before we VIP. I broke it down to an idea that if I paid for 3 drinks, it was cheaper than extending the dances. The absolute best BBBJ I have ever had was from a dancer who was tanked by her and my doing. I have only done a few FS and most of those were drink induced. I mean, I hate to catch some of Nones grease but its sort of a game. I like it. But be honest, yes we enjoy talking and hanging our but don't we all want to get that magic nut and go home?

I had a black stripper, an old ATF who quit a few years back, sip on a long straw with a Gin & Tonic while doing a BBBBJ (I add the other B for Black). That was kind of hot.

As a white guy who goes to black clubs I tend to stick out. Once they realize I'm not a cop they take it down a notch. I am never offensive and never attract attention to myself. I know the bartenders and tip them consistently, not excessively, but consistently. The dancers know me so they tell each other I am ok, and not a cop so I tend to get some good mileage from new talent regularly. I did have a pretty new girl become a regular because her friend told her I was a big shooter and she wanted to see How big she meant. First time I splashed a set of cans in the VIP. In my area the white and mixed clubs are pretty stuck up and cheapskates, rippoffs or police setups. I like the black clubs better.

I've had a few of the jack shack experiences, especially in Atlanta. In NYC where i grew up there were Peeps Show type places and i too had a few of the glass with hole experiences. I always covered up, but jacked right onto a babe when I was about 17 (oops should I have said that??) Rudy cleared all those places out. I don't even know of a Peep Show with windows and touching or anything like that anywhere in the US. Anyone else??

Black girls CAN be higher mileage...they can also leave you cold. As a white guy I know if they comeup to me they like to play. Latino's I have to agree have that upbringing that limits them on mileage. Asians are not plentiful where I have been but have heard some good things. Most white American strippers are a cross section of America, some are prudes and some will suck for a buck...black is my choice for mileage.

I had an ATF at a black club who I had gotten a covered from for a few months and told her my wish almost every time I nutted. One day she was a little drunk (HINT HINT) and told me I could as long as I didn't get it in her hair. Black girls have bright pink tongues...I had a perfect target and I was standing...didn't spill a drop and didn't get any on her 'face' but i did get the wish granted. Another Latino was giving me hand and lightly licking my nuts when I started to tense up...she kept right on going until I was done...she wiped up and went on about her business. I also nutted on a few ATF tits...anyone else??

Saw one of the girls at a restaurant...odd. She said the club was having money problems so they were taking on some financial partners, who wanted to make some changes. Expect late summer re-open.

I like to leave a little lighter than when I entered a club too, sometimes theres no way of having the 'freedom' to 'let it fly' or cover it w/a condom. I like to wear a dark pair of pants and a long shirt. a few of the girls understand this and work it for you...others just dance. I tend to avoid the low mileage places and have spent more time (And money) in the fuller service establishments. Freakiest thing I ever did in a club...got a BBHJ from a girl who offered a BBBJ (I declined) and she licked my stomach clean.

In my experience the scrunchers also are more prepared to service with extras. In a club where this isn't possible I just say no, and make her work for the money. This is why we read reviews here.

In a black club when it was dead late one Tuesday nite I had a series of back and forth VIP's with the 2 ladies there. Finally they had each gotten me up enough to start joking with each other like...'next' and hand me over. I joked about making it easy and just gathering up everyone, next thing I knew I had unloaded a double payment and got 2 songs with them both at once, in which they continued with their BBBJ action that they were doing solo....I was sure glad they EACH had a towel. We laughed and hung out for another hour.

I spent about 3 weeks in a place where there were Peeps Shows and a few with no glas,but small. I spent a lot of time in there over the 3 weeks, the strip clubs were sort of over priced and had plastic girls anyway. I met 3 girls in the Peep. 2 Asian and a black girl. The asians were business like with a lot of 'oooh wish I could do that for you baby' stuff. I enjoyed a lot of it, but went to the small no glass after a few days ad offered some more tip for some more contact. The bigger booths at the corners can fit 2 people. I was shelling out 2 dollar tips for 20 minutes every 2 minutes plus feeding the meter a dollar a whack so I offered her a $50 to come in and jack me. She thought I was joking, I tore the $50 in half and told her I'd meet her in the corner. About 6 minutes later there was a knock, sure enough, there she stood, with a robe on 'going on brake' She entered and simply got down to business. By the end of the 3 weeks they had each jacked me and the black one gave me 2 CBJs and a full service going away present. Let me tell you a 2 girl HJ in a corner booth at a peep show is hot! People can sort of see you but not totally, and theres lots of sweat in the booth cause its so small. I miss that trip...want to go bck.

Im a white dude and i love to frequent black clubs...usually early...cause the girls are a little more forgiving for me being white and all. I have an aold ATF CLub in NC(Sugarbares) which has seen ups and downs but I had a steady thing for about 2 years 3 days a week getting a HJ and occasionally a CBJ. I am very aware of what travels around clubs. Girls are too. I am still Disease Free but i freaked out on a girl, who wasn't my regular but had been 'told the deal' She takes me in the VIP and unzips me, I am getting into her speed idea. She SPITS on my Dick!!!!! and then starts stroking me. I freaked out, I got up, zipped up and went right to the mens room, which locks, and washed up. I left the club and didn't go back for nearly a month. When I finally got an email from one of my ATF's she apologized and said the girl was just trying to be sexy and smooth. I mean I do a TF every once in a while, but make sure I have a few towelettes for the lady, damn...I hate that crap, when the girls don't care any more.

Depending on the girl and depending on the mileage your after. I've had some great back dances from girls i didn't think had avoided the UgliStik as a child. I've also had some great ones. In a high mileage situation back is usually the norm, most girls would rather have you do your thing without having to look you in the eye at the same time. One of my FAV's did that a few times and spun round one night, which suprised the hell out of me, but it was a great ride.

I agree that most of the upscale clubs are a waste of money other than for eyecandy and window shopping. I have been to some second class clubs on the East Coast and gotten a lot of mileage. In one I had a girl who I saw regularly who gave great great bj's, I mean she knew what I was there for, she'd pick a nice long song, get me done QUICK and then hang out, sort of relaxing for a few. I saw her so often she asked for aride home one day, and I mean HOME to her house, she trusted me. She thanked me with a 2 girl session for one price the next time I came in, same rules but with the both of them. Her 'friend' was visiting her from Texas and has a cute little drawl. They lapped it up and sat down and chilled. Most mileage...Ive been offered the full deal, I just prefer the bj, much sexier to watch the head going up and down!!

Mileage is a big part of going to these places. I mean, lets be real. I like the black clubs because the girls are almost expecting to provide service to the customers. I like to go early, when everyone is fresh and awake. I hate dirty strippers or drunk ones. I have had a lot of variety in mileage. My ATF gave me her email and we met up a few times in different places outside the club. She said she liked me because theres not a lot of white guys in that club and I always treated her with respect (A BIG tip for guys) and maintained conversation. I have had some wierd experiences ranging from a BBBJ to a few Covered FS. Each one is different, but that WAS the point to the visit, get to the nut in the road. I have had a few Fav's who were great for the time I was in the city of the club, we had a good time and moved on. I even saw one of the girls from a nearby club when I was out with the wife...close one...she was COOL. Thats why some form of truth and respect is so important. I have given 2 girls a ride to their home or apartment or hotel room. Neither had extended contact after arriving there. I did get an AWESOME LD from one the next day and drove her home that night with some milk and cookies waiting when we got there. I did spend a lot of time talking with that one and she knew thats what the deal was. She said she'd done extras since she was 17 and stripping in SC (Actually got her first job because she extra'd the owner) and had never really had many guys take her as far as I had. A few, but not a lot. Very interesting conversation. Mainly though I go for the grind and those who aren't are lying.

walt, I have had a few dancers who were cool with it, usually in the 'ethnic' clubs. I have had a few LD's that started as grinds but worked into a full service session. I have done the naked penis grind a few times and had a great time. I agree, the wetness is awesome on your member. I have also accidently and also 'accidently' nutted when doing that. Usually its just a laugh. I had a dancer in NJ who loved to have her kitty 'rubbed' with little Vern. She was in a dive and I went to see her about 6 times in a week on a business trip. About the 2nd time Vern spit all over her kitty and she went nuts(in a good way). Vern entered the abyss at will from that point on. I actually think I got her off one night when we did this, if I didn't who cares!!!

Perfume...lots of perfume. a little is fine but I don't need to wear it home. For the ones who are there to provide lots of mileage...small talk and real life talk after the deed, thats annoying.

The only 'Feature' dancer I have gone to see, specifically, was Teri Weigel. I saw her in one place and met her manager/husband Murrill, who told me to check out the web site for details on 'private' dances with her. She has a thing called 'U Be The *' in which you can star in a scene with her, if you tell what you want to do. I was told these range from $500-$2000, and thats CASH fellas. My friends Todd arranged a 'dance' sequence with her for the next town over's performance. The 'scene' was done at a hotel (NICE place) nearby, before a show one night. He only coughed up $750 but then again she was his spank girl growing up. She let him undress her and she let her fingers do the walking. He was glad he'd cranked one out about an hour before going or his 15 minute dance would have been over in about 2!!! I got to meet her at the club both nights and she was awesome. A lot of guys have had similar experiences with Jenna and Chynna but thats only heresay.

6. The bartender tells you he's too busy and to 'get your own' 7.The 'Right of Passage' for a new girl is a time in the box with you(VIP) 8.You find yourself looking for hardcore dance rap in music stores. 9.You cash your paycheck and the teller hands you a bundle of singles without asking.

OK So I have a developing ATF at this club on the East side of Town. Im a big white guy and shes a tiny tiny black girl. Her VIP varies but the manual method is always available. She laughs when I 'arrive' like its the goal of her game(Of course it is MY goal). So the other nite she does something she never has done before, unzips me and KNEELs in front of me. Shes giving me the fake out licking motions and blows hot breath on it. I was suprised how quickly I 'developed' and arrived. It never occured to me because I'm not a Peter North sort of 'releaser' but she started that little laugh and my 'product' hit her in the open mouth!!!!! Horrified, I started to get up and she suprised the hell out of me by going through to the end and pushing me back into the chair. Watching her finish me and then clean her face up was so hot I had to have more. I told her I wanted another VIP and she looked stunned. She said it was OK and I didn't have to feel guilty. I figured she was just being nice. I would have had another dance though...man that was wierd. If I was a new guy, I think she'd have had my ass tossed!!!

I have had some experience in this area. SOme of my best experiences have been with less than stellar beauties. In NJ there was a place near the prison in Rahway. There were knockouts in there and they had a cool LD VIP area with some privacy. The knockouts would be all tip me tip me tip me and eventually would settle down to a dull grind...literally. There was a little Hispanic chic with the best titties and a heart shaped ass. She had a sort of messed up face, like she had a lot of acne as a kid, craters and stuff. She danced a lot in the less lit area and got tipped well but never seemed to do much VIP action. She was nice and all and we talked, so I asked her about it. She said that guys wanted a pretty face looking at them. I said that I wanted to see the TOP of a womans head, not her face. She laughed and I said i was serious. I was like 19 at the time at got my first and only all out BBBJ. She was like crazy whenI said we should do a VIP. After a while I started going JUST to see her, I mean dfamn she had GREAT titties and her ass would stop you across the room when she was onstage, then she'd turn around. I did get to bang her about half a dozen times. I never suggested it, but it was always from behind, she knew I liked her ass and she used to like to ride. One of those blurrey area where you think you might get the chic off..and you might even care...just a little...later on the next day. Anyway, the ugly one did rock my world. Here in the south I notice that mainly the black girls have that work ethic. A lot of them have nice bodies but a face that makes you shudder. Almost all of the sisters I have given just an ounce of interest to that I KNOW don't get interest from other patrons go the extra mile for me. I have one dancer who regularly will shut the door and not wait for me to sit, just kneels down and gets me off! She appreciates it that much. A little attention is cheaper than paying more for something faker...besides once you get your nut do you really worry about where it went?