Comments by driver01 (page 6)

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I hear you theknifex (interesting moniker,btw). Why just the other day, a dancer offered ME $300 if i'd let her take me out to dinner and then back to her place so she could have her way with me. I was stunned! She treated me like a piece a meat- as though I could be bought and paid for like a commodity. It was an absolutely shocking experience...and then, like Bobby Ewing, I woke up.

LOL...good tip---

"There are so many things wrong with this that I don’t know where to start.... and your over use of capitol letters for emphasis..." Well parody, you might start by learning when to use the word "capitol" versus the word "capital."

Well... Looks like Parody set the bait and FS just keeps walking into the trap, so to speak. It's amazing how gullible one man can be... Add one more to my ignore list....lol

Yep AN...right on point. As to your closing in on ignore observation, while parody is not always very subtle when he baits his traps, I find it amazing that fs is not bright enough to avoid them. But then, here I am taking the time to comment on all this...yikes-- time to go to a strip club--lol...

Sucker?? Wrong question. Hey, you got her # and from your post, you never even asked for it. This is not an unheard of thing in regular bars, workplaces, social functions or even (surprise)strip clubs!-- Good for you! Having frequented more than a few clubs over the years, this has happened to me as well. A large part of the time a girl gives you her cell phone # because she felt comfortable with you and you tipped her reasonably well. The purpose more often than not is to give you an opportunity to call her to see if she will be working when next you plan to return to the club. Another less common though not unheard of reason is that she "works" outside of the club and is subtly letting you know that she is available for outside "extracurricular" activities(pay to play) should you be interested.The fact that she gave you a second job work # is an interesting twist and the fact that you are an out of towner doesn't bode well for a third and rather uncommon reason which would be she likes you and was interested in maintaining contact-relationship-friendship-boyfriend-fuck buddy-(pick one)... Taking her # when offered does not make you a sucker.... Calling her for any reason other than #1 or #2 might...Just my 2 cents.

Rather than be repetitious...see my comments under Pink Pony Tampa reviews....

I think Winston Churchill had it about right... At a dinner party he was smitten by a beautiful woman whom he had been seated next to and towards the end of the evening simply asked her if she would be willing to go to bed with him for 50,000 pounds(a huge amount of money back then). The woman smiled coyly and responded, yes. Churchill then paused a moment and asked, "would you go to bed with me for 5 pounds?". The woman's response?- "Absolutely not, what kind of woman do you think I am?"...Churchill's response was, "Madame, I think we have already established what kind of woman you are, what's happening now is negotiation...

Interesting Mr. Fondl...Let's turn it around though. I have been to more than my share of clubs, often with business associates(clients) or sometimes with like-minded friends. I am constantly amazed at the level of BS some of my clubbing companions try to pass off as truth, all in some juvenile attempt to convince the dancer of God knows what. I mean, come on-- these girls have heard every line in the book and then some. Many of the married guys play the Im single and looking line or they flash a lot of cash pretending to be loaded when the fact is they have nothing more than what is in their pocket. or they go for the sympathy dance with "I just got divorced" and its so hard--lol(that one actually gets some good mileage). My point is that while you may be somewhat frustrated with dancers who don't seem to be straight up from the getgo-I would simply say, just like the newspaper- don't believe everything you read(or in this case, hear). You can't blame a girl for being a bit guarded with some stranger who walks into a strip club looking to get a grind from a naked girl he's never met! Come on-- are you really looking for some intimate details of this girls life? Most girls you meet out in the real world tend to be a bit guarded about personal stuff(even where they live) until they know you a bit and feel comfortable with you. And in the strip club environment there are lot's of reasons to be less than forthcoming(more than a few R.L.'s loose in these places). I like your strategy of sticking with regulars as that seems to be the best way to establish your bona-fides with a particular girl. While there are always exceptions, I would agree that the more comfortable she is and the more familiar you become--the more likely that you will see more of the "real" girl in the dancer. Having said that, most of what you will find in the "real" girl will most certainly fall short of your expectations in some fashion. At least that's my experience. Stick with the fantasy-- it rarely diappoints.

The very first time I went to a strip club, I confessed to an unbelievably attractive dancer that it was indeed my first time at any type of establishment of this sort. I was right out of college and traveling on business. I must have appeared nervous and she kind of "adopted" me for the evening. Did not spend nearly what I now know would have been appropriate and had the time of my life. Never went back as I returned home shortly thereafter. After that I started frequenting clubs back home(this was many years ago) and each time I went to a new club I used that same line(this is my first time, etc). Got a lot of pretty good mileage as I behaved like a gentleman and took whatever was offered. At the time, I didn't even think of this as a BS line but looking back it most certainly was. Now, of course, one look at me and any girl not smoking crack would laugh in my face if I tried that line again...LOL. Nowadays, I find it much easier to just go in and be myself-- that's seems to work pretty well too.

Well, Mr. Clean and Sober--your point as it relates to strip clubs is...what exactly? Personally, I think you are preaching to the choir here. Now I can only speak for myself but I think most of my Tuscl brethren may very well agree with the following perspective. Most are not shy about invoking the name of the almighty when inside the confines of their local den of iniquity. In fact, I have heard many a patron call upon the good Lord every time any stunning young dancer makes an appearance on stage. It is said that the phrase "Oh my God" was actually coined by Benjamin Franklin whilst in attendance at the lascivious Hellfire Club in London(today- kind of a cross between Mitchell Bros in SF; the Bunnyranch and Skull&Bones). So, if it's good enough for one of our most prominent founders, ole Ben, it is certainly good enough for me. God may have been banned from schools, from high school football games, from city hall, etc...But I am proud to say that we Tusclites are lovers of all things patriotic & refuse to bend to the politically correct and the intolerant anti-religious zealots who would try to remove God from our strip clubs! I spit on them and am confident that our little group will never give into them. God Bless America and may God Bless the Pink Pony...

In the words of the sportscaster Dick Enberg, "Oh-h-h My"....I fear my words may have been misconstued. I would invite, in fact, encourage you Mr. Parodyman to reread my post. It might help you to read it slowly as it may be a bit too nuanced for those with limited comprehension skills. For someone whose moniker is a literary play on words I am dismayed to see that despite your claim above to be "an artistic and creative person" you fail to recognize what clearly was written satirically and with a touch of irony. My understanding was that there was a requirement of at least a 9th grade education in order to participate in the discussion board section of this site-My mistake. And thanks Mr. Fondl for the assist but I assure you that the simple-minded ramblings of Mr. Parodyman are more of a reflection on him than on any of his targets. Of course, it may be possible that Mr. Parodyman just skimmed through my post above and honestly did not comprehend that tongue was planted firmly in cheek(no, not the butt cheek-lol) in my original musings. If so, I retract most of this rebuttal and leave you with the words of Mark Twain--"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

Style? Hardly...LMAO. Thanks for proving Mr. Twain's point. I think I'll defer to others the merits of your argument versus mine... And since quotations of others whom have gone before us seem to be unsettling to you, I'll leave you with this (with a nod to Mr. Twain) " In the first place, God created the feeble-minded. This was for practice. Then he created Parodyman"... Point- Set- Match.

Everytime I get a 3 for $50 it is serious and monogamous. I give 100% to making the relationship the very best it can be. I'm faithful and attentive. I try to be a good listener and while we're together I never even think about other women. Fortunately, each relationship only lasts about 10 minutes.

"Is that your money clip or are you just happy to see me?"

david's,david's,david's-- this is truly getting boring. Just because you keep repeating the same clap trap over and over does not make it so.You keep trying to equate picking up a girl in a regular night club as being the same as cheating a working girl/dancer out of making a living. Let's turn the question around and ask, "Why do you go into a place of business and refuse to pay for the services you are seeking?" You keep trying to equate picking up a girl in a regular night club as being the same as stiffing a working girl/dancer.

What about customers who try to manipulate strippers by not paying for their services? I have read many of david's posts and am amazed at his lack of understanding of exactly what a strip club is? This is not a flame and I am not intending to start a war by implying he seems to have a rather amazing lack of acumen on this topic. Let's set the premise: 1) Strip Club dancers are there for the purpose of making money. 2) Dancers, while working at the club, are practicing a time tested maxim. Men will pay money to see naked women. 3) A strip club, by definition, is just that. Men pay a fee for the purpose of talking to, dancing with and hanging out with a naked woman. No strings- no attachments- just pay your money and receive a service. - So what is manipulative about a man paying $5, $50 or $500 to his favorite or not so favorite dancer to enjoy her service. It seems to me that by trying to get her to provide the services for free or for next to nothing while in the club, makes the patron the manipulator not the dancer. david's writes "Why not just be upfront about what you want and not let money come into the equation in the first place? This could be the most profoundly dumbass question ever posted on this site. Let's see, how does one answer such a question without appearing to be patronizing. Hmmm... Not possible- so here goes. It's a strip club! What I want is to pay a fee and have a naked woman dance for me. I realize this may be a hard concept to grasp but why should a dancer who is there to make a living, want to spend hours of her work time with a guy who is looking for her to dance for him for free? I can see it now-- "Hi, baby. I am a young studly kind of guy and I see all these old farts in here throwing money at you for dances- I'm sure you're tired of that and would rather spend your time over here with me. I won't pay you anything because I have this theory that all I have to do is tell you what I want and you will be thrilled to give it to me for free. I'm a real catch you know? Not like all these losers in here with $$ trying to pay you for your time." What happens, david's, when you go to a restaurant and ask the server for free food. Do you expect it? Ha, well, maybe you do.. but most normal thinking people expect to pay for their meal when they go out to dine. Or try pulling into the car wash and saying "hey, I'm a studly young guy and I'd like my car washed for free-- no reason to let money get into the equation because I have this theory that if I just tell you what I want you'll give it to me." Amazing-- keep working on your theory because it needs a little refinement--LOL. I will finish my thought with a personal observation. In my town(and in yours as well, I'm sure) there are a couple of after hours places that dancers tend to hang out in. If what david's is intending is to try and get some action from a dancer for free or to "get to know her better" or to "not let money enter into the equation", my suggestion would be to try your theory in one of these after hour places. A) she's not on the clock and not working so you are much more likely to find her out of "dance mode mentality". B) this is a perfect chance for you to mesmerize her with your charming young studly ways without costing her money like you would by not paying for her time if you were with her in the club and C) when she tells you to fuck off because you come across to her in real life as an asshole just like you do on this board you can satisfy yourself that next time you might do a little better by offering to buy her a drink-- money talks...bullshit is just that-- bullshit.

1)"reality is all that counts to me"... says david's. Then why spend so much time there. Reality is what one escapes when entering a strip club. That is the reason for their success. 2) You fail to grasp that you are indeed the manipulator. You enter a place of business under false pretenses. While you claim "they can leave at anytime" and "you even encourage them to" (very big of you, by the way), you are on a mission to engage them in their trade without compensating them. Part of their trade involves talking and investing some time with you with the hope if not expectation that ultimately you will tip them or pay them for a dance. When you fail to live up to your end of the deal that makes you a cheap bastard and a manipulator, albeit a poor one. And if you frequent a club often enough, all of the girls will know this about you. I'm not saying you are alone in your efforts. There are a ton of guys that go into clubs and just watch and talk to girls in the hopes that they can "win them over with their charms". Do you think you're the first guy to have this illusion? Happens all the time. And the sad part is that you believe somehow that by not paying them for there time somehow makes you different when in fact, all it makes you is a lowlife. Please GET THIS-- these girls dance for money. They are there to pay there bills, do their drugs or pay tuition and get money,etc. Talking to you or any other patron is part of the job all designed to extract money from your wallet. You seem to imply that there is something sinister about that. Like, "just be honest about what you want and leave the money out of it"..come on, man. It's all about the money for them. And there is nothing wrong with that. What's wrong and you don't get is that you're trying to stiff them(no pun intended) and manipulate them to get something for nothing. You are the manipulator, you're Not being honest. If you were you would not go into a place of business looking for freebies. I stand by what i said earlier. Your tactics are more appropriate outside of their work environment. And I say this applies in the "real world" too. Whatever business you seek to engage has a service that is valued and provided for a fee. When you go to the place of business one should expect to pay. There is nothing more annoying than someone who seeks a service or product and then refuses to pay for it. Dancers are no different in this than someone seeking say services for accounting or legal or medical or golf lessons,etc. At the end of the day, david's, all you're trying to do is pick up a chick. In this case, it's a dancer. I have no problem with that. My problem is that you somehow equate not paying them in the club and then fucking them outside of the club as some sort of accomplishment. And this is what makes you the idiot that you are. At the end of the day, you fucked a dancer. So has just about every other guy who posts on this board. I fucked my dental hygienist for free but I did pay for the teeth cleaning. Am i supposed to feel manipulated by the hygienist because she made me pay for her professional service before meeting me later that night and fucking my brains out? Dancers dance for money and for that they should be paid. WHORES FUCK FOR MONEY. What you seem to be so proud of is that you got to fuck a whore for free-- good for you.

Wow... Now I know where I got my extraordinarily studly good looks from and why strippers find me so irresistible! ...Thanks Dad!

I love it...lose the battle of ideas so rather than continue the thread...you start another one and keep repeating yourself. I guess when you keep getting bitch slapped enough and demonstrate over and over your inability to comprehend the difference between what is possible versus what is proper or your failure to recognize that fucking a dancer/whore for money or for free results in the same thing...you fucked a whore! Good Job! You're the MAN!

I may not qualify to answer this if the baseline for qualifying as a "senior" means anyone older than you. I know I'm younger than you are since it is now clear that you're my daddy...lol

Bring it on daddy...Bitch slappin you is just too easy. The lack of mental acuity you display on a regular basis makes your repetitive proclamations evanescent. It's obvious you are giving it your all trying to hang in there but face it david's, you just don't have the brain or word power required. Come on, my bitch...you are such a disappointment to mom.

1) In any place of business, I pay for services rendered. No freeloader here. 2) As to dick size-- Like father like son... Nice try, my bitch--thanks for playing:)

So disappointing, david's...I know you can do better than this. I realize you are outmanned, outsmarted and outclassed but really, to deny responsibility for fathering your offspring is even lower that your lack of respect for the whore/dancers you keep trying to fuck for free...