Using Money to Manipulate
Any regulars here using the following strategy to win over strippers spend money on her to:
a) demonstrate that you have enough that you can waste some
b) demonstrate that you like her
c) by time to get her to talk to you and get to know the real you which is bound to like and at least become friends with and possibly even more!
Anyone try this on a large number of strippers: Trying to sneak in under the radar enough times so that it's bound to work one of these times?
What other manipluative strategies can money help you employ?
Why not just be upfront about what you want and not let money come into the equation in the first place?
Will strippers respect the sneaky type guy more or the direct type guy?
a) demonstrate that you have enough that you can waste some
b) demonstrate that you like her
c) by time to get her to talk to you and get to know the real you which is bound to like and at least become friends with and possibly even more!
Anyone try this on a large number of strippers: Trying to sneak in under the radar enough times so that it's bound to work one of these times?
What other manipluative strategies can money help you employ?
Why not just be upfront about what you want and not let money come into the equation in the first place?
Will strippers respect the sneaky type guy more or the direct type guy?
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Btw, just go off the phone with yer ma and she explained your anger to me: She told me you are convinced that I am you father b/c of that lie she told, and, hence, are angry at you for not spending on her so she could contribue to your upbringing (like sending you to a decent school which obviously did not happen). Anyway don't be mad at me: Truth is she would have just blown anything I spent on her on drugs anyway, and even if she had given it to you, she told me you would have just spent it on your strip club addiction. SO GET OVER IT ALREADY, DUMBASS.
(No need to reply here.)
ps: meant "blue" where I said "brown" above and vice versa.
2) As to dick size-- Like father like son...
Nice try, my bitch--thanks for playing:)
No driver, seems YOUR MOTHER was good for me. (Sorry can't resist if a guy sets himself up that bad.)
I do not try to get free dances which is what is for sale, so your whole analogy is flawed.
To use your analogy it would be like saying to the hot dog vendor at the baseball game: "I'm really not into hot dogs. How about a spaghetti dinner your place though?".
In the end all that matters is what work (consistenly). Keep theorizing all you won't why it shouldn't though. That's not going to change the fact that it does: loser.
I stand by what i said earlier. Your tactics are more appropriate outside of their work environment. And I say this applies in the "real world" too. Whatever business you seek to engage has a service that is valued and provided for a fee. When you go to the place of business one should expect to pay. There is nothing more annoying than someone who seeks a service or product and then refuses to pay for it. Dancers are no different in this than someone seeking say services for accounting or legal or medical or golf lessons,etc. At the end of the day, david's, all you're trying to do is pick up a chick. In this case, it's a dancer. I have no problem with that. My problem is that you somehow equate not paying them in the club and then fucking them outside of the club as some sort of accomplishment. And this is what makes you the idiot that you are. At the end of the day, you fucked a dancer. So has just about every other guy who posts on this board. I fucked my dental hygienist for free but I did pay for the teeth cleaning. Am i supposed to feel manipulated by the hygienist because she made me pay for her professional service before meeting me later that night and fucking my brains out? Dancers dance for money and for that they should be paid. WHORES FUCK FOR MONEY. What you seem to be so proud of is that you got to fuck a whore for free-- good for you.
One of my friends who used to work at strip club but no longer does and thus has no reason to lie tells me I come across as "sweet, intelligent, funny, normal". Same way I come across to women in normal clubs. Theorize all you want here in cyberspace. Tell each other you are right often enough that you start to believe it. Reality is all that counts for me. And your guys "guesses" and 'theories" as to reality are complete the opposite of actuality.
have a nice day,
davids
Maybe a hot dog salesman at a baseball game or something. You approach a beautiful woman trying to sell her a hot dog. She tells you that she is not interested in buying hot dogs, but starts talking to you anyway. She is interesting to talk to and she seems to be genuinely interested in you but you know she isn't going to buy a hot dog.
Now you may very well decide to sacrifice your $20/hr of hot dog sales to talk to the interesting woman, or you may decide the woman is critical b/c junior needs a heart operation next week so you'll come back and talk to her later, but in either case you can see how it's possible to get working people to talk to you.
Hope this clarifies things.
I have never said they are going to or that I expect them to talk to you for hours, that is a terrible strawman. If you are going to argue against what I say please try to be accurate as opposed to just arguing against something which is easy to argue against but is in no way related to anything I have ever said.
It's just that there comes times in the evening when they aren't busy, for example they have made their rounds and see that no one is buying. Or they are relaxing for a bit. Of if they are busy and still talking anyway, then they are obviously gaining enough out of the conversation that they deem it worth their while.
Anyway, the ultimate proof to the skeptics is this: Go out and try it yourself and I think you will be surprised by the results. Beleive you me, I was hella skeptical when I first tried myself, but it works in reality. You guys can do all your theorizing about why it shouldn't, but the but line is that: It works in reality. Try it.
1) Strip Club dancers are there for the purpose of making money.
2) Dancers, while working at the club, are practicing a time tested maxim. Men will pay money to see naked women.
3) A strip club, by definition, is just that. Men pay a fee for the purpose of talking to, dancing with and hanging out with a naked woman. No strings- no attachments- just pay your money and receive a service.
- So what is manipulative about a man paying $5, $50 or $500 to his favorite or not so favorite dancer to enjoy her service. It seems to me that by trying to get her to provide the services for free or for next to nothing while in the club, makes the patron the manipulator not the dancer. david's writes "Why not just be upfront about what you want and not let money come into the equation in the first place? This could be the most profoundly dumbass question ever posted on this site. Let's see, how does one answer such a question without appearing to be patronizing. Hmmm... Not possible- so here goes. It's a strip club! What I want is to pay a fee and have a naked woman dance for me. I realize this may be a hard concept to grasp but why should a dancer who is there to make a living, want to spend hours of her work time with a guy who is looking for her to dance for him for free? I can see it now-- "Hi, baby. I am a young studly kind of guy and I see all these old farts in here throwing money at you for dances- I'm sure you're tired of that and would rather spend your time over here with me. I won't pay you anything because I have this theory that all I have to do is tell you what I want and you will be thrilled to give it to me for free. I'm a real catch you know? Not like all these losers in here with $$ trying to pay you for your time."
What happens, david's, when you go to a restaurant and ask the server for free food. Do you expect it? Ha, well, maybe you do.. but most normal thinking people expect to pay for their meal when they go out to dine. Or try pulling into the car wash and saying "hey, I'm a studly young guy and I'd like my car washed for free-- no reason to let money get into the equation because I have this theory that if I just tell you what I want you'll give it to me." Amazing-- keep working on your theory because it needs a little refinement--LOL.
I will finish my thought with a personal observation. In my town(and in yours as well, I'm sure) there are a couple of after hours places that dancers tend to hang out in. If what david's is intending is to try and get some action from a dancer for free or to "get to know her better" or to "not let money enter into the equation", my suggestion would be to try your theory in one of these after hour places. A) she's not on the clock and not working so you are much more likely to find her out of "dance mode mentality". B) this is a perfect chance for you to mesmerize her with your charming young studly ways without costing her money like you would by not paying for her time if you were with her in the club and C) when she tells you to fuck off because you come across to her in real life as an asshole just like you do on this board you can satisfy yourself that next time you might do a little better by offering to buy her a drink-- money talks...bullshit is just that-- bullshit.