Comments by driver01 (page 7)

Ah, now you want a dialogue? Are you sure you can handle this? I don't want to overtax that feeble mind you so love to put on display. Are all dancers whores? What do you think? And please try to construct a response that is at least a little thought provoking. All the old man, you're ugly, your fat, you've got acne, you need green courage, you need to spend lots of money to get women,etc and all the other bullshit you like to use to justify NOT paying a business woman for her services; well, we'll just assume you said it all again-- saves everybody a little time so you can really focus in on making a cogent point. Good luck. I am pulling hard for you to do well on this.

But my mother is a whore if she fucked you. No need to apologize.

My work is done here...I hate it when the game ends in a blowout...off to London for 10 days. So I will be returning after the imposition of your self proclaimed exile from this august website. Wish I could say I was sorry to see you go. But gauging the ethical standards you apply in dealing with business women engaged in dancing, I'm betting you'll be back. You aren't capable of keeping your word.

Well, in case you had any doubt about david's lack of mental acuity this latest post demonstrates that his mindless ramblings are not limited to stiffing working dancers- he's done gone geo-political on us... I wish he would just stick to commenting on things he knows because if that were the case, he would not be posting at all.

Oh man, this is like shooting ducks in a barrel--- david's says "Strip club regulars who pay for it and haven't figured out how to get it for free"... Once again, david's continues to propigate the notion that there is something inherently wrong with entering a place of business and paying for services rendered.... So, david's-- tell us. Are you a communist?

Retard? -- Ouch! So much for civil discourse...But then, the expectation of you is so low that calling me a retard kind of feels like a compliment. So, thanks! Now, just so we are clear on this. You go to strip clubs. You pay the admission. You buy the minimum number of drinks required and spend nothing else. Please correct me if I have it wrong, david's. If, however, my understanding is as stated, would you please enlighten us on exactly why it is that YOU go to strip clubs...?

Stop with the compliments-- you're making me blush. I guess when you can't win the debate-- just change the subject and move on...that's the david's way...LMAO-- And you call everyone else here a loser?? LOL.. Come on, david's-- man up will you. Let's see that fatuous and simpleminded brain power at work...

Nice try on the military bait-- not gonna bite on that one. No point since we have already established that you're a communist. However, I will once again remind the board of the frequently asked question that you continue to avoid answering(for obvious reasons). Why such an obsession on the subject of paying a stripper for sex? You claim to regularly fuck strippers for free while others here claim to have paid them for their services. The end result is the same, my little communist friend. You both fucked some whores. Fun?? Absolutely! But not much of an accomplishment either way.. It's rather obvious, despite your ruminations to the contrary, that reason and logic are not your strong suit. I realize that most of your posts are simply meant to be provocative- designed to get the name-calling assaults going in both directions. But I would think you'd a least pick an argument that has a modicum of merit- fucking stripper/whores for free is nothing to brag about. Some of us have actually been there and done that. It's no big deal... Now, if you ever manage to fuck Jenna Jameson next time she features at a club near you and you did it without offering her a dime--well, then you might have something to crow about and I'd be the first to give you your propers. But since we all know that you couldn't fuck your dog for free I don't think we will be reading about a davids/jenna connection anytime soon. Also, what's up with this gay thing you all of a sudden are spouting off about. Something you need to get off your chest? Got a little secret deep in that closet of yours you want to share? You keep painting these verbal pictures of parodyman and J.C. hooking up in the gayosphere that it is clear to me that these are just manifestations of your own inner faggotism. Come on out of the closet, david's. Be a man (well sort of). You'll feel so much better about yourself. All that anger and hostility in you will melt away.. Shout it out to everone that you are a PROUD COMMUNIST LOVING WHORE FUCKING DICK SUCKING BITCH! Come on david's, you talk way too much about faggotism to not be a closet homo...LMAO

Once again, you cannot make a cogent defense of your position relative to the question posed. Just ignore the indefensible and change the subject... For a guy who claims to bag stripper/whores for free, you talk an awfully lot about homosexuality. You know you really need to face up to the reality of your closeted faggot leanings and tendencies. It's ok, david's. You're among the closest friends you probably have on this earth(how sad is that) and we're here to help you through this process of self discovery. So stand up and proclaim to the world that you're a CAPITALIST PRETENDING COMMUNIST LOVING FREE WHORE FUCKING DICK SUCKING B-I-A-TCH.

So by your logic (and I use that term loosely) you are the "fucking retard"...LOL

....and again, he cannot defend his indefensible position on the original question...duck and deflect and do your namecalling routine. Doesn't change the fact that you CANNOT DEFEND YOUR POSITION...This is just too damn easy.

LMAO-- I don't give a shit if you debate ME or not. By putting forth a proposition as you continue to do-namely, that entering a place of business and paying for the services provided by a dancer is somehow a"loser" thing to do as opposed to your modus operandi of not spending money on the girls working in the club and then trying to fuck a dancer/whore for free, is worthy of challenge. You put the proposition forward, not me. At the end of the day, one guy pays a working girl for her services--you stiff the working girl and fuck her for free. So, you both fucked a dancer/whore. SO FUCKING WHAT? david's, you are talking about FUCKING WHORES!!!!!!! What the fuck difference does it make whether you got a freebie from her or not? You fucked a dancer/whore for free-- GOOD FOR YOU!

Again, you have failed to make a cogent defense of your proposition. DUCK, DEFLECT and change the subject...Gee, what a surprise. Asking you to explain/defend your nonsensical proclamation requires only an answer, something you fail to provide(understandably so). I am/was truly interested in your point of view. Whether you debate "ME" was never the point. I just thought it'd be fun to hear you try and explain how you came to the conclusion you did. A debate by definition is "a regulated discussion of a proposition between two matched sides." You get buried every time you post something anywhere on this board and you couldn't match wits with me even if I was in a coma... so, stop flattering yourself- a true debate was never in the cards. You don't have the brain power. But seriously, david's - next time you fuck one of those dancer's for free, just remember the odds are pretty good that you're getting sloppy seconds or thirds or maybe even sloppy fourths from the tusclites of the world--Be safe and wear that condom-- lol. Sloppy 4ths, david's!! WOW! You da man! As you may or may not have noticed, I only pop in here periodically and post even less so. Unlike you, I do have a life and that life includes traveling the world. So while you are here bragging about fucking dancer/whores for free and spending your days chastising everyone else as 'Losers", I will be flying off to Japan and then to the People's Republic of China(you know, that big country in the far east that last time I was there was communist). I'll be sure and let them know that "no one calls anyone a communist since the end of the cold war". They obviously did not get the memo... Back in a couple of weeks....I hope while I'm gone that you either get over your obsession with homosexuality or come on out of the closet...The gay bashing of jc and parody and others is just not very clever. Maybe you can come up with something fresh. Think about it will you. It'd be nice to come back to something creative and rises above the level of your usual bullshit. I'll save you the trouble-- driver is a loser. Get real, dude. ..Retard..Loser retard...Retard Loser...Fucking retard...fucking retard loser..clueless...clueless loser...clueless retard loser...fucking retard clueless bastard...if i missed one, consider it said...

Headline: DAVIDS PAYS FOR EXTRAS...read all about it! LMAO. I was just about to call it a night when I clicked on davids name and actually read some of his reviews. It appears that our agitator is guily of that which he chastises everyone else for...I wish I had taken the time to read this before. Perhaps, everyone else who is a regular reader of this board already knew this but this is news to me. Here is but one of his many reviews and comments on the subject...If you need to see it as originally posted- click on his name and the REAL DAVIDS, a loser like us...lol davids writes of Rick's... "Wow! What a club! This has always been the best club in Seattle but it has now become EASILY the best. You are insane to go anywhere else. I have been an evening regular at Rick's for about a year. About 50% of the girls here are serious about making sure you have a good time and keep coming back. Extras are easy to find. Some of the best looking girls will give them too, but some will not. Some girls charge you extra for them, but if you are patient you should be able to find a good looking girl willing to do the extras for no extra charge (I recommend tiping these ones, though). Be careful though, not every girl in here is willing to give you very much. This is true of some of the prettiest ones who seem to want to coast in on their looks: Erin and MaryJane come to mind. As has been said if you aren't *really* enjoying that first dance move onto the next girl: don't be a chump and hope it will get better; it won't. Also be careful of the following "trick": the dance is kind of mediocre up until the end of song when it suddenly gets real good. This b*tch is a hustler. Another "trick" is when they occasionally try and get your heart rate up there, but back off as you are about to have some real fun (this will make me unpopular here but Sharee and Joey are examples of girls who like to use this trick). Ultimately the great part about Rick's is this: there is no need to deal with the hustlers in here at all. There are plenty of pretty girls who are going to give you a very good time and not even charge you above regular price. Treat them well and they will (at least act like) they appreciate it. Some of girls here will engage you in conversation, which is alwasy fun, but usually it's not excessive. Most are looking to get down to business rather quickly. Only a few downfalls of this club: it is easy to spend too much here. Also the situation with extras is probably unstable. Rumors abound of cops making arrests. (The owner is a local crime figure, but it appears even the (presumable) bribes aren't keeping the vice at bay.) As more girls who don't want to are forced to do extras to compete and the other clubs feel the heat and word leaks out to the general population, expect a backlash against the club. It is quite possible that this place will get taken down altogether. Also I have no experience with the day time crowd, but I have seen some night timers saying they moved in from the day because they could not compete. Perhaps there is already some internal backlash, which could contribute to what I predict will the clubs ultimate demise for being too good. (I feel the situation at the beginning of the year was more stable, you could find extras, but had to work for a bit at it, so there was less danger of a general take down then.) Management also appears to be cracking down a bit, but it has not had much of an effect yet. So go out there and enjoy this club while you can. I don't expect this good thing to last forever.

Don't have time to educate you on China. I travel there 4-5 times a year and you would not believe what goes on that you never read or hear about over here.. But you are kidding yourself if you think the men in power there are anything but ruthless. The state has a controlling interest in everything. You know you are a "guest" the moment you are "invited" to do business with them. Freedom as you and i know it, does not exist...but this is a discussion for another day...Short on time Happy to know you're a reformed pay for play participant. I guess that makes you a reformed loser...just like me. I played that game for a while after my wife passed away at the age of 31. No, I'm not an old man--just turned 37 and now have 3 girlfriends in 3 different countries. But to tell you the truth, you pay for it one way or another. Sometimes, the pay for play route almost seems more honest. You want an hour of fun so you pay for it and go on with your business. No flowers, no late night calls and it costs less than dinner at the Palm. I can see how this works for some people. And it worked for me during a tough period in my life...No need to flame me anymore on this--I won't be flaming you...I'd be happy to just let it go... Off to the airport...

Bullshit. Many if not most of the dealers I play with are players themselves. Now management is another story...

david's...do you mean something along the lines of the proverbial "what she really means when she says...?".. Kind of like when a woman says NO she really means YES(or is it when a wman says YES she really means NO--damn, I always get confused on that on--lol)

Yep...been there done that. This was several years ago-- Was visiting a club on a regular basis and was spending the bulk of my time there with one particular dancer. Although I knew she had a recent ex-bf who was reluctant to acknowledge is newfound "ex" status, I was unaware that said ex was tight with the club's DJ- very tight. Spent several quality evenings with this girl off campus and it was good. But then wherever there is good in a strip club, something bad is lurking nearby. The bad came in the form of a brick through the windshield of my Mercedes. Happened in the parking lot of the club on a busy night. Turns out the DJ caught wind of my dancer's off campus escapades with yours truly and shared that info with the "ex." It turns out the ex often hung around the outside of the club and I had been pointed out to him as the "guy messing with his woman." The irony is that when my dancer found out about what happened(from the DJ- not me) she felt so bad that she actually tried to pay me cash for the repair--LOL. Certainly did not need nor want her money but I got a kick out of a dancer trying to hand me $500 in cash! Never seen that before or since.

I'm with you Parody--- and rest assured that payback can truly be a BITCH. Several weeks went by before I was able to ascertain the whole story on the windshield so I was unaware at the time that her ex was responsible. When I was ultimately told by one of the bouncers the real deal about what had transpired I was more calculating in my response. Why do yourself what you can get others to do for you... so... I dropped a dime to one of my cop buddies and he "just happened" to roll by this club on one of the nights that the ex tended to be lurking around outside of the club. It's amazing how this happens but my buddy and his partner "just happened" to see the ex "loitering in an unauthorized place." After they id him they ran his license and wouldn't you know it- the guy had an outstanding warrant for $1500 worth of unpaid parking tickets. (he also had a record including assault, burglary and urinating in public). Damn shame that my cop buddy had to haul him back to jail on a Friday night because in this particular county you don't get to see the judge until Monday to post bail. After all was said and done, I felt justice was served. And the best part was that he never saw it coming...

With apologies to our former President, "it all depends on what your definition of the word DATING is"...lol

What about if a stripper DOESN'T make love to you, does that mean she DOESN'T like you?

Hmmm. So the objective is to "impress" a dancer??? And here I thought all along the idea was for a dancer to "impress" ME enough that I might be persuaded to spend my $$ on her. Silly me--lol.

Pick one-- a matter of semantics-- parsing of words -- Bill Clintonism-- whatever. It is what it is. If you pay a dancer money and then receive sexual services, legally you have engaged in prostitution. Many a dancer has been busted and convicted of prostitution in the Tampa area withOUT engaging in "intercourse." The law does not make a distinction between a hand job or blow job or intercourse. One girl here even tried to use the defense that the compensation she received for her services were for the "lap dances" only. Told the judge she charged $25 per song and the undercover paid her $100. She lapped for 4 songs and gave the cop a hand job only because "he seemed like a nice guy, not because he gave her $100." For some strange reason, the judge was not persuaded and she was convicted. You guys crack me up-- "Your Honor, I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT WOMAN, THE NAKED DANCER in the VIP." Good luck- that defense may make YOU FEEL better about what you're doing, but you have definetly engaged the services of a prostitute and that makes you a JOHN-- not that there's anything wrong with that--lol.

Doc says-- "I personally wouldn't dismiss any woman as a "whore" anymore than I'd routinely refer to some person as a "masturbator." Most people have masturbated at one time or another but it would be abusive to label a person such, based on one activity in which they engage." Excuse me for pointing out the obvious, but let's look at this a little more. We're on a stripper message board- just a bunch of guys shooting the shit, so to speak. Where else is a more appropriate forum for politically incorrect commentary?? And, as I am sure you will concede, sometimes politically incorrect speech can be right on the money in it's analysis. A spade is a spade not a diamond, heart or club. Secondly, the word whore is a noun that by definition means "a woman who practices promiscuous sexual activity for hire". Context is relevant here- Doc, if you drink a coke as part of your daily diet, YOU are a cola drinker. That is an accurate statement when in context. No one would suggest that saying DOC IS A COLA DRINKER captures the full essence of you as a man. Clearly, you are a bit more complex than that. But when determining if a person drinks cola or is a non-cola drinker, it is true that DOC IS A COLA DRINKER. Do you feel like you're being "abused"?? Likewise, using the word "whore" for a man/ woman/dancer/escort is entirely appropriate when in context, as it is here when describing a person who practices the definition of the word. Clearly, a "whore is a much more complex human being than any one word. But it would be disingenuous to suggest that a dancer giving you head in the Vip in return for $$ is not "whoring". Doesn't make her less of a human being, just means that part of her includes whoring. You seem like a "glass is half full kind of guy"-- which is the kind of guy this world could use more of. Looking for the best in people and treating others with respect are admirable traits worthy of acknowledgement. People are complex beings and no one word or phrase captures them in their entirety. I hope my assumption of you is accurate but it is only an impression based on what you have written. And that is all I know about you. Is it wrong to make such a leap and categorizing you as I did? Based on what little we know, you are also a "masturbator" and a "John". Welcome to the club-lol:)

Fondl- "As we've discussed ad naseum before, there are a lot of nouns that are considered pejorative and not used in polite company..." Exactly right! I guess it boils down to whether an anonymous stripper website message board is considered polite company. Is it? Is it really? I mean it is a STRIPPER WEBSITE! How many conversations do you have in "polite company" discussing even one-tenth of the subjects written about here on a daily basis. For most, the answer is obviously very few to none. Doc, you said it best when talking about how various groups get a pass when they use perceived derogatory language to describe themselves. I hope you also observe that they usually get the same pass when using that same language to describe others whilst in their sphere of influence. Dancers calling other dancers "whores" comes to mind... My point, I guess, is merely that we are not in "polite company" here. We are in our own tribe talking as men who enjoy strip clubs, strippers and PUSSY (hope I didn't offend anyone- don't use that word in "polite company, by the way-lol)