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14 years ago
ESL is that way in many places. Brooklyn has 4 or 5 clubs plus a massage parlor in a two square block area. WP has 3 clubs in close proximity near the interstate; two more over on the east side near the RR tracks, and C-Mowes and Chameleon shared a fenced-in parking lot in the old days. Both clubs burned and only C-Mowes rebuilt, but there are a couple of new clubs within a few hundred feet now. Centreville has three clubs at the intersection of a couple of rural highways. One club is male dancers only...so for most of us, it doesn't count.
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14 years ago
I don't go to the club too much during this economy because profit is off somewhat for this homebuilder, but I did venture in last month and got 10 dances from a new cutie. Fun, lots of meaningful groping! Nice hj!!
Went back a couple of weeks ago, and as she is sitting across from me with her hands slid most of the way up the legs of my shorts, she purrrs, "would you be my sugardaddy?"
I despise the very concept of "sugardaddy", but managed a sly smile and said, "sure, where do we start?" Listened to the "I'm $2k short for my boob job" story. I don't like the feel or appearance of most breast augmentations. The bartender even overheard her $2k story, and said, "yeah, better not tell Jerry that, he hates fake tits." This spinner could use a little lift on her 34's, but planned to get a pair of "slightly full 38D's"....slightly full??? Did two dances, and left.
Went by the other day, and noticed that my potential "sugar doll" wasn't there. I was told that she got fired when the owner caught her sneaking out the back door with a customer. And the owner wasn't even there; he was showing a buddy how he could watch the club's security cameras on his computer at his office.
What do sugardaddies look like...maybe a life size gingerbread man cookie.
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14 years ago
The recent shift from topless laps to bikini at the club I like has made for a vast unpopulated space where the club is. On a hunch, I dropped in today and was the only customer in the place for an hour. Took my favorite prude to VIP because all the rest were fatties that I don't get dances from. Apparently prudence needed money and performed a very skillful bbbj...we reached an important milestone in our relationship today!
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14 years ago
Twenty years ago when I frequented a bikini bar that offered minimal grind $5 lap dances; I think they had to keep one foot on the floor or something like that. Feeling boobies was not allowed, but a discreet hand in the bikini bottom was considered something of an extra, and was frequently done for an additional $5.
So one day I got a dance from a new girl. She wasn't the best looking girl in the room, sort of plain with an average rack. Midway through he first song, she wiggled her bottoms down just a bit, and I slipped my fingers in for a feel. Huh...this doesn't feel right. Where's the soft, moist object of my desires?? Not to be found. Continued probing, and finally concluded that this girl probably didn't have one. End of song...$5, oh, here's another $5...thanks, gotta' go. WTF...
Confirmed my suspicion a few days later with a dancer I knew well. She was certain the owner would fire this (presumably)mid-op tranny that day. Chick sans parts came by to chat later, and asked if I would be interested in OTC. I almost asked "what would we do?" But politely declined her offer, and tried not to dwell on my experience of a few days before.
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14 years ago
Not enough time or money to get dances with every girl every time, so I try to do dances with 5 or 6 girls at some point every month. I have my favorite(s), and everybody knows who they are, so it's expected that I will get dances from one of them frequently. Still manage to maintain a cordial relationship with the girls I don't get dances from, but of course they tend to become more standoffish with time.
Now that my favorite club has reverted to a bikini bar under the new edict, I don't know how any of this will play out in the future.
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14 years ago
I like dark haired girls. My experience has shown that they get wetter faster. I'm not sure if I have known very many "real" blonds. I seldom see redheads as dancers.
And now that we can't look at bushes anymore here in the Sho Me State, the real hair color is once again part of the fantasy.
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14 years ago
Known 5 dancers who died. 4 drug related: 2 OD, 2 suicide. One was domestic violence. I knew 2 of the 5 pretty well; it's an event that causes you to pause and express your sorrow even if you didn't know her well. The death of ones you know are more difficult to process of course.
Recognize that the chick who will be grinding on your lap later tonight is a human life. Don't forget to give her a genuine hug after you're done dancing...even if she's a R.O.B. Who knows, it might keep her from offing herself later in the dark corridors of addiction.
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14 years ago
Ooops, pushed post it too soon....
The really sad thing is that this law doesn't appear to do anything that will put the sex novelty and videos stores out of business, and thus remove their billboards. All it does for sure is probably cause a lot of strippers to have to get real jobs.
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14 years ago
There were a few bright spots in the Missouri club scene, which will likely be extinguished. Unnecessary law.
The passage of this bill was a knee jerk reaction to a very obnoxious group of porno store operators who put up lots of huge lighted billboards on rural stretches of I-70 between Kansas City and Columbia advertising XXX-Adults Only! These adult islands with vast parking lots to accommodate semi's were conveniently located on the interstate between the billboards. Some had dancers, most didn't. The garish billboards quickly caught the eye of the state house about 10 years ago, but freedom of speech issues prevented much action to curtail this obvious embarrassment to lawmakers.
In time, additional strip clubs opened in these remote places since the metropolitan centers had no areas zoned for such disgusting activities. Remember Baddjack's famous discussion of his experience at one of these "truck stop" strip clubs??
The guy who spearheaded this year's legislation for most of his political career(he terms-out this year)came from a socially ultra-conservative, religious orientation. He couldn't have done this all by himself tho; the bill boards got him the support he needed. The brightly lit "Totally Nude" sign emblazoned across the front of Temptations on the edge of the billion dollar renovation of downtown Kansas City didn't help matters either.
This law is partially the result of greed and poor decisions by amateur adult entertainment retailers and club owners.
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14 years ago
There's a whole lot of issues with most strippers. I don't want to hear any of it. I just want what I see to act like a real live sexual experience provider.
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14 years ago
Went to my favorite Missouri club late this afternoon. With the ominous new law set to take place at midnight, MFCS agreed to $80 bbbj because it might be our last opportunity...ever. She is an oral machine. All I have to do is relax and enjoy it. She's not done 'til I'm done!
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14 years ago
Dance like a machine with back towards me is a guaranteed single dance. If I chose to dance with her because it was a 241, then I will generally suffer thru a second song, but I try to envision a great looking pussy to put me in a better frame of mind.
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14 years ago
Here's a different angle on it:
http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/2010/08/missouris_strip_clubs_xxxxxxx.php
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14 years ago
Most girls understand where their "moneymaker" is located and can be persuaded to do ITC or OTC. ITC depends a lot on the club layout and the intensity of supervision present. OTC is entirely a negotiation with the dancer. Don't pay over $300 for OTC - remember, it's just f**king.
Once you find an ITC-friendly club, you can figure out the price scale...if you can't, the dancer will usually explain it to you. Remember, not all dancers do extras, even when it appears that it would be a "must" to compete.
When it comes to VIP/CR rooms, focus on paying for sex with the hot chick on your lap, not the owner's car. Sometimes the only way to nail the hot babe is in the VIP or CR, but it can be costly.
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14 years ago
In my voyeuristic travels around the internet, I have scanned CraigsList mw4mw section, and there are occasional references to swinger clubs. As MG implies, they don't encourage single males to stop by unannounced. You need to have a reservation, and they prefer that you be hung. Except for some nudity, this is an activity that is very different from strip clubbing.
PT's in Centerville (ESL) used to play host to a swingers group in St. Louis on Saturday nights - I assume that they still do. The group meets in a roped-off area of the club, they have a catered sit down dinner and then they would mingle with the SC guests, or they usually have a dance floor area where they can be by themselves with their neighbor's wife. Last time I was at one of these nights (10 years ago), they had nude male dancers on a separate stage. Some of the swinger chicks tipped these male dancers heavily.
...of course I observed this from across the room where I was at the stage with hot, nude WOMEN dancers. Swinger women like to sit at that stage too!!
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14 years ago
"Commercial" sex sounds really bad.
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14 years ago
mY mILEAGE dOES vARY. Always has, probably always will. Sometimes it's me, and sometimes it's them.
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14 years ago
Years ago, I paid in advance once. Totally air dance. I actually got up and left the club during the dance.
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14 years ago
Not sure what the subject line is about, but GMD, I think we should have an "Amazing Things Dancers Say Hall of Fame", and that quote should be the first one on the wall! How did you avoid passing out from laughter??
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14 years ago
Founder, Changes are very nice. I had to lose the ads tho - I get enough entertainment here from this great cadre of wordsmiths!
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14 years ago
So Smokey, did you momentarily envision that older guy at the bar as just another PL, thus your automatic slide into SC speak?? I don't know your stage name, but if it is something like Diamond, Luscious, Bubbles or Jiggles, I can imagine the recovery being hilarious.
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14 years ago
If your girlfriend is a porn star, then GFE might be like PSE for you.
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14 years ago
I typically pay $300 for 1-hr OTC. I have been quoted as much as a grand for an hour, and have paid as little as $100.
ITC is my preferred method of delivery these days. I have several dancers who will do FS(vag)for $200, and one of them will do FS(an) for $300. I skip all of them and go for the chubby AA girl who does BBBJ CIM spit for $60. She is truly a Hoover, so the whole deal can be done in a song or two.
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14 years ago
I guess no possibility of extra's, huh.