YMMV ... Is it possible that I am partly the reason my mileage varies?

I first entered Houston Dolls in 2004. From 04 to late 09, it was either high mileage or ultra high mileage. In very early 2010, something had changed. Girls were vastly ugly, and mileage went way down, and in my last trip there-who wants a full contact LD from a girl with more hair on her back and ass than an italian guy ?

A couple of posters stated recently that they had a good time, but it'll be a while before I return.

unless you are a total reject, it is up to the stripper. How hungry is she? I once saw a dancer give an extremely fat guy a dance. He was so fat that he had to use crutches to walk. I asked her "was his dick as big as the rest of him?" She replied "I don't know. I couldn't find it".

What's this, another introspective post? What is the world coming to?

I believe my attitude has quite a bit to do with it. I remember a couple of times I've been in my usual club, and nobody's doing much more than "Hi." Bartender says I look all uptight, and so I try to relax, and when I do, things turn around.

Strippers want your money and listen to all kinds of BS. Unless you acted like a total asshole, it wasn't you.

I agree with gmd that attitude does play a role, especially in my particularly game, which is OTC.

Dancers are human beings like anyone else. While money is obviously a huge part of the equation, my experience is that some dancers need to develop a comfort level with the prospect before they will agree and pull the trigger.

If you look miserable, nervous, or have some other personality issue she is likely going to wonder what the problem is, which in turn will make her nervous about you. Is he a psycho? Will he pay me? Do I want to be alone in a hotel with him?

I would guess that same would go for ITC. Will he lose his mind when he has me alone in a room? How will he react if he does not like it? Is he going to treat me like shit?

IMHO a friendly, quietly confident guy is going to have more ITC and OTC options every time.

My SO is an ex stripper, and I have had many conversations with her and her friends about what affects the girls in the club. Guys' attitudes would be in the top 5 list. The primary attitude they do not like is a guy being dismissive; i.e., treating them like a commodity.

I am convinced that a positive attitude is an important factor over the long run, but may not be the "rate limiting" one in any given situation. Club rules, peer pressure, and each girl's personal limits, may control the mileage, and your winning personality may not be sufficient.

I don't think it is that complicated. I know some guys swear by their "game" they run, but for me I just let my money do the talking. If a dancer does not show interest in being high mileage for me then I just move on to the next.

I do as samsung1 does. If the dancer doesn't like me as I am, that's fine, my money spends just as well elsewhere.

gator, you channeling Dougster today? ;-)

dallas, it's possible that your attitude can affect your mileage to some degree. I think it's just a variation on what I have observed about LDs -- the more the dancer likes the song, the better the dance is, and it's a win-win. In the same way, if the dancer enjoys dancing for you, that can show in different (and often fun) ways.

so, i was also wondering about the patron's physical attractiveness. how much does that affect the dancer's willingness to push the limits? if you've got a younger good-looking guy and an old ugly guy at the same club, on average, how does their potential mileage compare? or are the strippers so focused on the money that they don't even consider it much?

just my opinion, but I think that the size of the wallet and the overall attitude matter more. The stripper is concerned with $$$ first, but she also needs to know that she is going to be safe and well treated IMHO.

From time to time you will see the newer, younger strippers gravitate to young guys - no help for that. But most of the dancers know that these young guys usually don't have $$$ to spend and will tend to focus on guys with a few more years under their belts.

No, what I said is true. Strippers are like therapists, we pay for their time which means they don't change mileage unless our behavior is completely unacceptable. I don't think Dougster would say this.

A lot of different factors at play here. Both customers and strippers have mood swings. The club itself has mood swings, due to such obvious factors as - has LE been pestering lately? Did the manager's girl friend just kick him out and he is venting on the girls? etc. etc. If you re-read the OP you can see that dallas702 is all over the place in the premise he set up, and so are the responses.

Makes for interesting reading. At least nobody has called anybody a fag, etc., in this thread, or in any thread I've seen lately. I like that.

mY mILEAGE dOES vARY. Always has, probably always will. Sometimes it's me, and sometimes it's them.

mmdv26, but why does your mileage vary? Try a 30 day experiment of pissing in a jar and seeing if you can figure out when the mileage is better or worse.

gator: ...they don't change mileage unless our behavior is completely unacceptable.

I'd come close to agreeing with this. I'd say that mileage doesn't vary significantly unless your behavior is very bad OR very good. I get free extras in VIP from this one dancer just because I made such a good first impression. While I don't kid myself that I'm the "only one", she'd have to be crazy not to be charging most guys for the same stuff. And she's not crazy.

gator: I don't think Dougster would say this.

No, he wouldn't. But that was waaaaay less cynical than your first statement.

Saw a dancer on stage and I remembered getting a dance from her that was just average. Still, she was my type, and I got some nice interaction when I tipped her, so when she suggested a dance I agreed. By the end of the first dance my head was spinning. She's one of my regular girls now.

So, what happened that first time? Was it me? Her? (Or maybe my memory was just screwed up?)

steve, how long ago was it? Maybe she's been taking lessons...

Attitude makes the world go round. But it shouldn't make the lapdanance go awry. Sounds like a bad pun, but I wasn't trying.

If you're a regular at a club and you can't count on somebody consistently, just move on to a dancer you can count on.