Sugar daddys piss me off...

Playing Devil's Advocate for a moment, I'd rather that a stripper end up as someone's sugar baby than as much sadder alternatives (i.e. druggie, dead, stripping forever, etc.)

there's plenty of fish in the sea.. err.. club. ;)

It is easier to find a wife in a convent than a stripjoint.

dougster makes a good point. I would say for every stripper that does find a sugar daddy there are 2 that get stuck with a loser boyfriend.

Also with the internet, it is now easier to find a sugar daddy. There are dating websites that have the theme of sugar daddy relationships. You can even submit to a background check and income/asset verification to become a verified sugar daddy.

^^^my bad...not "dougster", I meant "dudester"

Shadowcat: It is bad enough that they run the POP up ITC

Arbeeguy: Gosh, Shadowcat, you have bragged many times how you can get girls for less than the going rate because of your skill, your charm, and the CANDY. Now you complain because some big spenders help the girls out by giving them EXTRA money? Woweeee. I think you should appreciate these guys. After all, the gals have to make a living. Some guys pay a little less than normal, some pay a little (a lot?) more than normal. So it all evens out for the gals. I hope your girlfriends in the club don't find out that you resent the extra money they get from the sugar daddies.

Peace.

Well shadowcat, prepare to be pissed off even more. As someone who could easily be called a Sugar Daddy if I chose to go that route, I could give less than a good crap if my spending habits in SCs annoy you. I worked like a demented fool for 45 years to create my wealth. I am now spending some of it as I choose. If you find that annoying move on to a different hobby.
What do you want - SC Socialism? North America is a capitalist society. Price for services is always determined by the market. If you are priced out of the market shop somewhere else.
Shadowcat, I enjoy your reviews and the banter with you on discussion boards but you really annoyed me with this post.

I agree with SC . More that it elevates the expectations. If you're not doing a VIP you're "cheap".
The tales of spending ( $ 500 cash as a birthday present) and $1000 in VIP for someone she saw one weekend 6 months ago is difficult to compete with. Good for the girls bS for the customer.

The girls work to benefit themselves, not the PL.

My sympathy tends to run toward the Sugar Daddy: Congratulations! You've just bought yourself a stripper mistress/girlfriend! Enjoy the headaches.

Fun topic. I like to play this song when driving to the club:

I've got male intuition
I've got sexual ambition
I'm the last great tradition
Let me state my position

The older I get
The better I was
It's all just a show
It's all just because
The show must go on
What else can it do?
I'm gonna drop the load on you

Sugar, sugar daddy, Sugar

Got the money got the moves
Got the looks and the breaks
Got the shirt got the shoes
Got what it takes

Sugar, sugar daddy, Sugar

Whoa!
Holy schmoly
I'm a one man army
Yeah, a one man mob
Woo-hoo
I'm the McDaddy
You don't send a boy to do a man's job

Sugar, sugar daddy
Sugar, sugar daddy

--"Sugar Daddy" Tom Jones (written for Jones by Bono and Edge of U2, inspired by a meeting of the friends in a pub in Dublin)

I think the difference between a sugar daddy and a PL is that the sugar daddy will not notice $20k missing but a PL will.

Am I the only one that read between the lines and thinks Shadow is rubbing Harrydave for pulling a dancers to be his wife?

I don't go to the club too much during this economy because profit is off somewhat for this homebuilder, but I did venture in last month and got 10 dances from a new cutie. Fun, lots of meaningful groping! Nice hj!!

Went back a couple of weeks ago, and as she is sitting across from me with her hands slid most of the way up the legs of my shorts, she purrrs, "would you be my sugardaddy?"

I despise the very concept of "sugardaddy", but managed a sly smile and said, "sure, where do we start?" Listened to the "I'm $2k short for my boob job" story. I don't like the feel or appearance of most breast augmentations. The bartender even overheard her $2k story, and said, "yeah, better not tell Jerry that, he hates fake tits." This spinner could use a little lift on her 34's, but planned to get a pair of "slightly full 38D's"....slightly full??? Did two dances, and left.

Went by the other day, and noticed that my potential "sugar doll" wasn't there. I was told that she got fired when the owner caught her sneaking out the back door with a customer. And the owner wasn't even there; he was showing a buddy how he could watch the club's security cameras on his computer at his office.

What do sugardaddies look like...maybe a life size gingerbread man cookie.

I hate it when a dancer tells you she wants you to be her sugardaddy and you don't even know what that means. I had a young 21 year old dancer do this to me when I was in my older 20's or early 30's. Maybe she was just playing with me but she did constantly get me to spend a bunch of money on dances from her every visit. I don't believe I was spending more than 100 for several dances so maybe she was playing with me. The only time I still remember that she got really pissed off at me was when she mysteriously thought I should buy her something (paying for her contacts she wanted to get). I thought why should I? She got pissed and I had no clue why. I thought some girls are just plain weird. I told her I was not any sugar daddy.

Now if someone wants to dance with one of my favorites I don't mind that she's earning enough money that night to help keep her coming back to the club. I would like to spend some time with my favorites but I understand they need to make consistent money in the club or they'll go elsewhere looking to make money.

Is this the same Shadowcat that makes his TUSCL buddies ask his permission to get dances from his ATF?

Oooops. Sounds like I hit some nerves.

I don't spend less than the next guy. I just get more for my money.

steve, that is a self imposed rule started by her. Since she basically quit dancing two years ago, she has only danced for 2 other customers. My TUSCL buddies TUSCL_Brother and snowtime.

I just throw this shit out there to keep the pot boiling...

<I just throw this shit out there to keep the pot boiling...>

It worked! :)

Dancers are there for money. If you're paying more moolah the gal will stay. So why would tthe dancer leave her sugar daddy for a few cheap get high mileage dances. That would free her sugar daddy to possibly spend money on someone else and may like better. These gals have bills to pay. Not trying to offend you, but you sound like a ripoff customer getting something for nothing. Good Luck.

Well I'm ok with shadowcat. I believe he's merely saying he doesn't like sugar daddies who make strippers quit working. If the dancers are living off the sugar daddy and don't even need to work in the club anymore, nobody else will see them either. Plus if the sugar daddy is just merely giving them enough to get by without working, he's going to cause them major grief because the former dancer may not be doing anything to improve her situation. Unless she gets married to the sugar daddy. Then she'll be entitled to half of everything he has.

Eventually one of those sugar daddies may come on here and talk about how this one pussy cost him tens of thousands of dollars because he had to marry her. I haven't heard that one yet but I know there's probably a story out there.

shadow, be comforted in the thought that those guys are not that common, at least IME.

I think most guys that can do so end up not, for a variety of reasons. More than anything, I suspect that this doesn't happen too often because he doesn't want to commit so much to one girl becuase there is so much variety out there that could be sampled for the same.

I am in farmer's corner and will admit that, about 2 months ago, I came close to putting a girl on the payroll. My reasons for not doing so revolved around subsequent ITC stupidity on the part of her friend, but had things kept rolling along then she might have been another 1099 for my company, at least until I got tied of her ;)

I also probably overspend a little in the Southern clubs, but it greases the skids for me and saves me a lot of BS negotiating and "get to know you" horseshit.

If one can do, he does, but I do not think that there are enough guys doing this stuff in these times to push the price up in general.

George....evil I tell you...you're evil. :)