Comments by rl27 (page 4)

To me anything below a 7 is not worth it. I don't got for a club for average, and I grade on a steep scale. 1-4 Ugly and should not be dancing 5-6 Bottom tier dancers, should have hung it up years ago. 7 Above Average looking, decent body, but definitely far from perfect. Would get a dance from her, but only if there isn't hotter dancers available. If you saw her outside a club, would likely not turn her down, but in a club you would be looking for better. 8 - Hot looking, with a very nice body, very little wrong with her looks wise. An 8 is the the reason you go to clubs. You aren't looking for an average or above average, you are looking for hot, and she is hot. If she asks if you want a dance, you quickly agree. 9 - Extremely hot, almost perfect body. If she walks by, your head will turn and if she's on stage you will go up there and feed her dollars, and definitely will ask for a dance, and you will wait for quite a while for her to be available. 10 - Perfection. You and every other person in the club wants to get dances from her. If she asks you for a dance, you would dump the hot 8, and possibly even the hot 9 and head back. Not only will spend your entire budget you will blow right past it. If she's busy you will likely wait for several hours to get a dance from her.

I had a similar experience when I last visited. Day shift about 10 dancers, 70/30 AA to white, most of the dancers were "thick", and none of the dancers appealed to me. Probably around 8 customers, who mostly were 60 or older. Night shift was around 15 dancers 80/20 AA to white, a few more skinny dancers, only four dancers appealed to me, and all wanted way too much for dances. Place was fairly crowded, but crowd mostly young and not getting dances.

Here are some, often inconsistent rules I have seen at various clubs. Dancers must have at least one foot on the floor when giving dances. Probably some local city ordinance Dancers must never take there heals off when giving dances. Probably some local city ordinance. It would make more sense to require them to remove their heals, so as not to damage the chairs or couches. When the two for one dance is called, except for those in the champagne room, all dancers must leave the private dance room and head back to the dressing room for a line up. Requiring dancers to cover up tattoos with makeup, that often looks worse than the tattoos. At one club years ago, the dancers have to wear a dress when seated with you and when first going up on stage, yet can then get fully naked.

Yeah the one time I visited since covid restrictions were lifted, the club stopped the front area $25 dollar dances. Reason the dancers aren't appealing is all the good ones left since very few people are getting dances. Management needs to wisen up or it will close.

$20 access for cubicles, well that removes one incentive for me to visit, especially since the last time I was there a bit over a month ago several dancers quoted Flight Club level prices, and the one dancer I did try was not good.

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I can attest to Deena being problematic. Will agree to one thing then afterwards come up with a complete line of BS adding on charges. Last time I was there I she agreed to $150 no song count, then added on song count and additional charges because she went farther than what she said. The club needs to be boycotted until she is fired.

I know what Piano Man is talking about Billy Joel or BJ, but WTF is 88's and 7/11 type finish?

I place dancers in three categories age wise. 18-24 Usually has the largest mix of pretty and not so pretty. Ten years ago this age group was great, many were thin and fit with decent make up skills. However the last few years too many are on the heavier side. Most of have horrible makeup skills looking more like caricatures than hot. One negative of this group has always been the highest percentage of dancers who get by on looks alone. 25-36 In the more upscale clubs often the hottest are mostly in this age group. In the less upscale clubs, often the best balance between looks, friendliness and lap dance quality. In more upscale clubs many of the hottest ones are still getting by their looks and give average at best dances for high prices. Still this seems to be the prime age for most of my favorites, dancers who have been dancing for several years, know they are hot but also know how to treat customers like more than ATM's even though they may think this. 40-52 I skipped 37 to 39 since that is the point dancers seems to be on the fence between the 25-36 and 40+ dancers. In the upscale clubs these are the dancers who through a combination of good genetics, a healthy lifestyle and good plastic surgeons are able to still compete with the remaining dancer due to experience. Usually not more than two in most clubs in this age range. One of my favorites I knew from age 37 to 48. While her face and hands showed their age the last 2 or three years she danced, her body got better and better looking and her VIP dances improved immensely over the years, and a lot more intimate.

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Not giving out information on dancers or the clubs wouldn't have helped in this situation. The rapist followed his victims from the club to their home, one of whom was a waitress. And I don't know of any review where the waitresses are mentioned.

My perfect ten, is thin with a toned fit body. A nice breast, waist to hips ratio. Nice shaped natural boobs, or well done implants. No sag, and also no spherical balls if implants. A nice pretty thin face, nothing too out of shape. Now perfect tens aren't everything. There is also attitude. For instance there are a few pornstars who aren't exactly my ideas of perfect tens, Sarah Jessie, Anna Bell Peaks, and Shawna Lenee, I prefer their videos over porn stars who I think are tens.

Papi, I noticed the similar things at the first two clubs I visited so far, and reviewed both. At both clubs at least 80% of the dancers are new. Even though both clubs have a different vibe, I have noticed several commonalities between both. Not enough veteran dancers, and the majority that are there are not the top tier talent, only two out 50 between the two clubs so far. Looks wise, the new dancers hired are for the most part pretty, and their facial makeup is far more natural than the typical overdone stripper look, less tattoos, and very few with implants, all of which are a good thing in my book. However body wise far too many are very out of shape. Far too few dancers working the floor. Likely due to not enough remaining veterans to show them the way, considering that the one club which had more dancers working the floor, also had more of the higher tier talent. Far too many dancers are just sitting around talking to each other looking bored. Some of this is likely due to not enough customers, but sitting around looking bored won't help. Stage skills from most dancers is lacking. Stage skills, which has been declining the last decade or so, were for the most part entirely non-existant. Private dance skills were very lacking. I am not just talking about air dances, but dancers not knowing how to be sexy when dancing. Many customers seemed confused about if you can tip. Some if this is the club's problem, at both clubs it took over an hour for the DJ to tell customers they can tip the dancers on stage. Normally this isn't needed, but the pandemic has made many people cautious. Dancers also seemed confused about tipping, several dancers at both clubs looked surprised when I walked to the stage to tip, and one was even hesitant, and said she wasn't sure if she was allowed to tip. That is the club's fault.

"I might've imagined it, but I think I overheard some grumbling among the dancers about it being slow, and the general vibe was tinged with desperation and resentment" I noticed the same thing two weeks ago when I visited, and the owners or management are to blame. First the club got rid of the $25/song dances. No sane person is going to pay $40/song at a club in Ohio, and most wouldn't pay it in a more permissive city. The second is getting rid of the dancers coming from stage during the dance review any more, and the dancers don't walk around asking for dances. Which means they don't get dances. If the club is that stupid, then it's going to fail.

1) Don’t go to a strip club if you are broke... I don't, that doesn't mean I am going to spend money if none of the dancers appeals to me. 2) If a girl sits with you and you like her: ask her if she wants a drink and tip her for her time if you don’t/can’t get a dance. If a girl sits with me, it's likely I am already considering asking her for a dance. If I don't get a dance then it's likely her attitude problem, in which case I have no reason to tip her. 3) If you find a girl you like: make an effort to see her on stage. That's a given. First if you see a hot girl on stage you like, approaching her for a tip is typically the easiest way to ask for a dance. 4) Don’t ask what her real name is, we have stage names for safety reasons. Never do, and personally I don't care if Anastasia's real name is Betty, in fact if I knew her sexy Anastasia was Betty I probably wouldn't be as inclined to get a dance. 5) A strip club is not like speed dating... I don't go there to date, I go there to get a lap dance, and if it's the right type of club to get off 6) Please don’t touch without asking... This often depends more on the club than the dancer. In the right clubs, you don't even have to ask, because the moment the dance starts you are already past third base and heading home. 7) Don’t try to haggle dance prices. Not typically a problem. In most clubs prices are already set, and in clubs where it says "prices are set by the dancers" or something similar, if he prices are too high then I say no and go on, in which case if there is any haggling it's the dancer doing it. 8.) Don’t ask how our boyfriends/partners/spouses/families feel about us dancing. Never do, since I don't care. Even so, I still hear far too often about how some dancer broke up with her boyfriend or got disowned by her parents for dancing. 9) Don’t talk shit about the other dancers. In my experience it's usually the dancers talking shit about other dancers. 10) Don’t ask us if we can find cocaine/drugs. Never even enters my mind. If a dancer is getting too many questions on this, maybe she should choose a different club. 11) If you want to watch the game or talk to your buddies or there for the bar, you should go to an actual bar where the bottled Budweiser is much cheaper. Stop pretending and stop consuming our labor for free. If I am at a strip club to watch a game, it's not going to be for "the big game," but usually a known blowout match say such as OSU vs the Akron Zips. That way I can take in some of the game while watching hot ladies on stage, and getting some dances once the score is 21-0. Also in some clubs game day has a lot more 2/1 dances. 12) Don’t just watch and/or stare. It’s extremely rude. Depends on the context. If there is a hot gal on stage doing an amazing dance, I will just watch because I don't want to interrupt her routine. Once she takes a slight break then I will head up to tip her, unless my jaw is hanging to the floor stunned at the sheer awesomeness I just witnessed. If it's a guy watching a dancer give a dance to another guy, then yeah that's rude. 13) No photography or videos without the dancer's explicit consent. It is illegal to take photos or film and you can get sued. No argument there. 14) Even if you are a friend of a dancer, please tip her. If your friend was a waitress or bartender you would tip her, there is no difference. No argument there. 15) Don’t out a stripper if you see her in public, online, or in person. Also protect her safety by keeping the name of her work place private. No argument there. Although that does go both ways. Once had a dancer working the cash register at a department store during Christmas ask me if I was going to be at the club that night.

For a while the clubs were closing at 10PM or midnight, so I stayed away. Now they are back to closing at their normal time, and I finally visited again a few weeks ago. Contact in the Columbus clubs are about what they were before the pandemic, which being Columbus isn't saying much. Columbus Gold right now is your best bet for pretty dancers and a decent dance. Next door Vanity in their infinite stupidity decided to do away with the $25 / song dances and only offer $40 / song dances in separate rooms. No dance is worth that much, especially in Ohio. I haven't been to Palace in Lowellville in a while, but from what I heard the dance prices doubled, and the number of dancers you can count on 3 fingers at most. Even at it's best if I happened to be up in NE Ohio visiting Relatives to watch the Browns / Stealers Game or Brown / Ravens game I would head over to Erie, PA rather than Palace or Akron. I haven't had much luck getting extras in Cleveland clubs for years. Rest of the times if I am in the mood for extras I'll take a short trip to Detroit on the weekend.

It's not usually age, but lifestyle that sends a gal to pasture. I have seen dancers who were still smoking hot into their early 50's, and dancers who were hags by 25. I have also seen dancers who danced well past their prime still bringing in the dough. There was this one fugly redhead dancer with a flabby large belly, floppy wrinkly saggy tits, and a fat wrinkly butt. Sure her tits were huge but they also hung down well past her belly button, with as big as her gut was that is saying something. She emptied out the club many of a time when she went on stage, yet she still had plenty of regulars who got dances from her. It took a full four years before either the club wised up, or she quit due to lack of dances.

Not sure why they charge so much for a bottle of water. It was $8 most of the times I visited, then became $10 back late 2019.

I knew three Gabby's. Two were named that because they were gabbers. The other looked a bit like the tennis player Gabriela Sabatini, so the club suggested the name Gabby.

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The sentence "Which is why none of the dancers were getting dances, other than a few during the 2 for ones, and even then there was none" Should have ended with ", and even then there was none who got additional songs after the 2/1."

As PinkSugarDoll said, most of the hottest girls don't have to fuck guys to make money, but what she didn't say is in some clubs, that's 90% of the dancers. The reason is they don't have to. The dance prices are way overpriced, because the clubs can get away with it due to all the gullible tourists. I have been to Vegas a few times over the years, and if there is one thing I can say, is there are no extras in the club. Sure I have gotten OTC offers at Deja Vu and Rhino, a few times, but they were for far more than what a typical Escort charges, and made some of the brothels seem reasonable. So you won't have to worry about that, unless your best friend's guy is willing to spend $1500 or more to hookup with a dancer, which is what most of the dancers wanted when I was there. At that rate, you can find a hot porn star.

BlondeRX, have you even been to this club? I had been going to this club since it originally opened under the name Pure Platinum many years ago. This visit the club seemed to be a completely different club. While I had heard that the pandemic had affected most of the clubs, It really affected this club, and from the looks of it, is because the Management or Owners shot them selves in the foot. While it wasn't always crowded, there was still always a good group of customers and dancers. Normally there would be at least a dozen dancers sitting with customers. This visit, out of nearly 25 there was only three, I am not sure how you got from the comments that I came for the 2 / 1 dances. May be it was the line "Shortly after the first 2/1, the first of two dancers stopped by." This was not during the 2/1, but maybe a song or two later. The comment was talking about how none of the dancers did anything during the two for one. Vanity did not have them come down the stage, while next door Columbus Gold did. Neither did the dancers roam around ask if anyone wanted a dance. Not one, moved, they just sat at the bar with sour expressions looking bored. Again that isn't normal for this club. Normally this club was a lot more fun than next door Columbus Gold. Not this visit, I have seen more enthusiasm at a funeral. That is not normal at this club. Compare this to Columbus Gold next door, which really isn't the best run club, regardless how pretentious they like to act. CG was crowded, and people were getting dances, while Vanity was like a black hole sucking up all energy. Very few cities, if there are any, are worth $40/song dances. Columbus is certainly not one of them. Which is why none of the dancers were getting dances, other than a few during the 2 for ones, and even then there was none. So "he pretty girls (as per your description) weren’t in the mood to devalue their services by giving away free lappers," doesn't even count, because none of them were getting dances. Unless the clubs wakes up and re-adds back the main room 25/song dances, which is the going price in Columbus, the club won't last.