Good Bands That Turned Bad

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shailynn
They never tell you what you need to know.
What are some musical groups that you once thought were good but turned bad? Also what album or time period did they change?

For me...

Red Hot Chili Peppers. The Rick Rubin produced Blood Sugar Sex Magik was a turning point for me. Was not a fan of that album but it was okay. Everything after that was garbage as far as I am concerned. Everything before that when they all were on heroin was awesome.

U2 - everything that came after the 80s and when Bono started wearing those stupid glasses.

Genesis - everything that was made after Phil Collins solo work when he joined back up.

Beastie Boys - first two albums were amazing, then they decided to play instruments. That wasn’t a good choice in my opinion. Still get a kick out of Paul’s Boutique to this day.

Nas and Jay-Z - like so many rappers once they became filthy rich it’s like they lost their edge. Everyone likes rap songs about the struggle, everyone rolls their eyes when it comes to rap songs flaunting wealth.

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bman66
4 years ago
Van Halen, everything after Roth was so so with Sammy. Classic lineup VH is the best! Still can't believe ED is dead.
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ime
4 years ago
Weezer
Offspring
Metallica

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sinclair
4 years ago
Guns N Roses - They went to shit when they thought it was a good idea to do an album of covers and Izzy left the band. The Use Your Illusion albums were their high water mark.

Drive By Truckers - Really dug the albums Southern Rock Opera, Decoration Day, The Dirty South, and A Blessing And A Curse. After Jason Isbell left the band, they went to shit. They became too preachy with politics and the female vocalist added for the next three albums was horrible. DBT seems to be fading away while Jason Isbell is having a successful solo career.
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Studme53
4 years ago
With a few exceptions, early stuff is almost always better.
With their first few albums they blow their creative loads that’s been building up their whole lives, so to speak.
After that they generally lose their energy and either repeat and copy themselves or go off in weird directions.
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goldmongerATL
4 years ago
Springsteen's albums from 72-84 were incredible. His last good album was 37 years ago. Maybe add The Rising in 2002.

Agree on several others mentioned.
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Warrior15
4 years ago
When I read the headline, I"m thinking this thread is going to be about drug use and trouble with the law. Don't all rock bands turn BAD at some point ?
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Cashman1234
4 years ago
There are so many!

I think Metallica is one that bought into a heavy metal formula and kept turning out very similar music after a certain point.

A short list would be -
REM - anything after Green was far too commercial and pop-ish for me.

The Clash - huge sell out and decline with Combat Rock.

Bruuuuce sold out and got too into the issues a long time ago! Darkness on the edge of town was one of his last great albums. I still love Atlantic City as a song - but Nebraska was too much political crap otherwise.

I still enjoy U2. But, I am in the minority. Although, when I heard the guitar intro to Sunday Bloody Sunday, I realized how much I missed their early sound.

Elton John is an artist who turned to shit several decades ago.

I think Kanye’s first few albums were excellent - and then he seemed to lose his way.

Beastie Boys fell away quickly - but I think it was impossible to keep that intensity and energy going for any amount of time.
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Cashman1234
4 years ago
One more comment about Bono. That duet with Frank Sinatra was bizarre!

Here’s a funny old SNL bit with Phil Hartmann as Sinatra!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7SdIJimk-w…

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DeclineToState
4 years ago
Van Halen after debut album (as pop invaded their rock). Album 1984 and song Jump was particularly ridiculous despite commercial success.
Def Leppard after 2nd album High n Dry
AC/DC after Back in Black
Surprised to not see anyone else trashing Led Zeppelin In Through the Out Door. Jimmy Page has called it "a little soft" and said he and Bonham didn't like it
On the other hand, I like all U2 - some albums better than others, but no bad album IMO
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misterorange
4 years ago
^^ Decline
In Through the Out Door I thought was a great album. A decade in the music world can be a long time in terms of musical taste of the audience. While it was a departure from the type of stuff that made Zep the dominant band for 10 years, it hit the #1 spot on the charts within two weeks of release. At some point you've got to understand the changing times and go with it. In the Evening, All My Love and Fool in the Rain are classics still heard all the time on radio. I'm Gonna Crawl was more of the more deep rooted blues tracks, reminiscent of the old Led Zep, and is barely remembered today. Also you've got to attribute a lot of the highly synthesized pop-sounds of the album to the fact that Bonham and Page were so consumed by alcohol and heroin, respectively, that they missed many rehearsal and recording sessions, leaving the bulk of everything to Plant and Jones. And who could forget the record sleeve artwork with the watercolors!
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rattdog
4 years ago
tesla started to decline as soon as they did they released 5 man acoustical jam.

whitesnake's decline begins when they kicked out john sykes.

some may say the rolling stones. mick taylor leaving the band and cutting out dance/disco tracks on black and blue and some girls signified many to be the beginning of overall decline of the stones. to me black n blue to me is an underrated album and some girls is a top 10-15 album of all-time.

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Studme53
4 years ago
Agree on Bruce - he first 3 albums were outstanding and he was a cultural phenomenon - on the cover of Time and Newsweek the same week!
Only place to go is downhill after that.
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DesertScab
4 years ago
Thank God Cher hasn't turned bad!

I disagree with Cashman1234 about Elton John. He is getting better as his ass gets looser!

I love that young filly Taylor Swift! She's embracing my trans queen brothers and letting her freak flag fly!
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Muddy
4 years ago
There’s really so many. Because bands have the challenge of beating what made them famous in the first place. You have your whole life to write your first album so they saying goes. I mean who is still out there making awesome shit? That ain’t rhetorical either I’m interested in knowing so I can check it out for myself.

Just a few commments on above. I don’t get Peter Gabriel Genesis. It’s puts me to sleep. Phil Collins Genesis is just so much better.

U2 had some good songs in the 2000’s like Vertigo and City of blinding lights. That last album really sucked by them though.

Agree on Springsteen.
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bman66
4 years ago
Aerosmith is another band that sounded a lot better when they were on drugs. Have not had a good album since ROCKS. Many bands put out there good stuff when they were stoned and only good for a few albums.
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Cashman1234
4 years ago
I thought Guns and Roses set the bar almost too high with Appetite for Destruction. They seemed to get too caught up in their greatness and put out Use Your Illusion - as I think there was lots of infighting once they got big.

Sadly, I think Axel still thinks he’s a huge star!
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crosscheck
4 years ago
To see Aerosmith go from the band that did "Toys in the Attic" and "Rocks" to becoming a band for 13 year old girls...painful.
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Muddy
4 years ago
I like 80’s/90’s Aerosmith, they definitely had some good hits in there
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rattdog
4 years ago
joe perry said lightning strikes is one of his favorite all-time aerosmith songs. that's huge considering he didn't write that song.
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SteveSutton
4 years ago
Bon Jovi .... great 80’s cock-rock band ... terrible adult contemporary or whatever their latest crap is band.

Def Leppard ... amazing first 2 (maybe 3) albums, then also not much.

Motley Crue as well, Poison ... pretty much any of my 80’s bands I suppose. Good thing they all had amazing first and second albums!

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datinman
4 years ago
Boston - hugely popular first album. Then they just kind remade the same album over and over.
Elvis Costello - Great first few albums. Hit a wall at Almost Blue and rarely has had a good song since.
Yes - great first 5 albums. Everything after sucked. They are still doing oldies cruises.
Joy Division - Great Band! New Order - not so much.
The Pixies - reformed in 2014 and really shouldn't have.
Kings of Leon - three great records. Toured with U2, went pop, and have sucked ever since.

Totally agree with sinclair about the Drive By Truckers
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shailynn
4 years ago
^^^ wow all of that is spot on.
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skibum609
4 years ago
Toys in the attic was Aerosmith's 3rd album. They went from mama kins and dream on to a parody. The Ramones lost it. Doobie Brothers. Chicago. Its hard to repeat....
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elmer
4 years ago
These two bands didn't turn bad they were horrible from the start
Red Hot chili peppers and Allison in Chains.

Two years ago a relative purchase tickets for Allison in chains I went because I felt obligated. Spent most of the time in the lobby but could still hear their crappy ass sound
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PredragDr
4 years ago
"Allison" in Chains? Is that the female cover band for them!? Seriously it was downhill after Staley passed.

A lot of longtime rock bands go softer because the vocalist's throat can no longer hold up. I think of Tool and AFI.
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elmer
4 years ago
^ they couldn't be any worse
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Cashman1234
4 years ago
Allysin Chains is a porn star. I’ve never heard her sing in her scenes.

She was cute and hot about 10-15 years ago.

https://www.pornhub.com/pornstar/allysin…

I wonder if there’s any correlation to bands/artists jumping the shark once a porn star uses their name? I know there’s a Brittany Rears, and there’s a girl who looked like Miley Cyrus.
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gammanu95
4 years ago
METALLICA

Eminem
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Daddillac
4 years ago
I agree with most of what everyone said... I am surprised no one mentioned Dread Zeppelin, the Reggae band led by lead singer and Elvis Impersonator Tortelvis...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZHWy6W0…
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gammanu95
4 years ago
Offspring. Not only did they sell out and become Nickelback, Jr., but their concert was awful.
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elmer
4 years ago
Why is it that Nickelback is so disliked?
I like a lot of their music and I have been to a couple concert.
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datinman
4 years ago
Clapton. It may have been a hit, but that bossa nova version of Layla ruined the great original for me.
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rl27
4 years ago
AC/DC - Started out good, but turned into a caricature of themselves
Queensryche - Good up until the mid 90's, then Geoff Tate lost his vocal range, then was kicked out and the current singer just isn't as good.
Metallica - Still my favorite band, but their song writing peaked at And Justice For All. Black Album was OK, but from Load to St Anger had to be the worst group of songs by a once great band. It looked like they may come back with Death Magnetic, then came the aptly titled Hardwired to Self Destruct.
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