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Platinum Plus

West Columbia, South Carolina

Arrived on 11/11 at ~1:00. Was...

Arrived on 11/11 at ~1:00. Was very disappointed that Nicky was not working, but had a great time anyway. Got great dances from Guilty, Trinity, Jessica, and Kendra. Trinity is a pale little brunette with lots…

Club Paradise

Toronto, Ontario

Wow! There are so many dancers...

Wow! There are so many dancers and the lowest may be an 8. Amazing bodies, great dancing and fun personalities, you can't ask for more. For a good time jump up on stage…

Rick's Cabaret Raleigh

Raleigh, North Carolina

Was in the area last Wed...

Was in the area last Wed night so I decided to make another trip. Pretty decent crowd and I guess around 40 dancers. Couple of the girls told me the night before was terrible with…

Win Place & Show Bar

Louisville, Kentucky

i dance here, have been for...

i dance here, have been for almost two years, and i must say that we have some of the hottest women in lexington. the business flucuates like anything else, but we're definitely some lovely ladies.…

Cheetah Charleston

Charleston, South Carolina

Charleston has never been the greatest...

Charleston has never been the greatest place for strip clubs, but this club is about the best in the city, even though it was better years ago. On a recent visit I found…

Bon Bon

Berlin, Germany

Back in Berlin recently, so I...

Back in Berlin recently, so I gave this place another look. After my experiences a year or so ago, I didn't bother showing up until after midnight. The place as packed, and the…

Lusty Lady

San Francisco, California

Awesome; video booths, peep show dancing,...

Awesome; video booths, peep show dancing, and a 1-1 booth. Talk to a girl with no distractions while watching each other get off. She'll play with herself and with toys as long as…

Flamingo Club

Lawrence, Kansas

The Flamingo is difficult to find,...

The Flamingo is difficult to find, especially at night since there isn't a lot of street lighting once you get through town. There was a sign posted on the fence, but nearly impossible to…

Teasers

Utica, New York

Most of the dancers weren't worth...

Most of the dancers weren't worth looking at, but I was solicited by one reasonably looking lady and asked for her rates which were $5 for a lap dance or $100 for five dances in…

Baby Dolls

Abilene, Texas

With 2 stages and a good...

With 2 stages and a good number of girls working, you get a good opportunity to see what's available. The stages are low and allows you to stand face to cleavage with the ladies…

Playhouse Club

Romulus, Michigan

Stopped by on an early Thursday...

Stopped by on an early Thursday evening. Less than a dozen customers in the place and probably a half dozen dancers. The hottest woman in the place was the waitress. The dancers…

The Cabaret Nightclub

Brisbane, Queensland

Pretty average. There was no stage...

Pretty average. There was no stage dancing and the club itself was so shabby and run down looking. The lap dances were $5 for 30 seconds, $10 for one minute etc, and they were done…

Acropolis

Portland, Oregon

Not sure why this hole in...

Not sure why this hole in the wall gets such good reviews. Maybe the guys going here have never been anywhere else. It reminds me of that Patrick Swayze movie Road House.…

Fantasies Nightclub

Baltimore, Maryland

If you are unfamiliar with the...

If you are unfamiliar with the area, it is less in Baltimore, more in the Glen Burnie suburb. It is not a bad area actually. So, no worries for safety. Mostly highway getting there. It…

Pure Pleasure

Richmond, Virginia

went the other hight b4 7:00pm,...

went the other hight b4 7:00pm, got there for the happy hour. Beers were 3.00 and no cover. they has about 10-15 dancer. the girls don't have to wear pasties anymore. this a…

Hawaii Theatre

City of Industry, California

Good times can still be had...

Good times can still be had at HT. With a variety of willing participants, I am consistently able to find someone who satisfies my mood or meets my fancy. A bit expensive if extended VIP…

Goldrush Showbar

Atlanta, Georgia

went here late afternoon and not...

went here late afternoon and not really anything to write home about had adance from k. Thin tattoos and piercing all over which I don't like offered VIP for150 but declined stayed for…

Body Shop Gentlemen's Club

Rockford, Illinois

When I first went to the...

When I first went to the Body Shop I was frisked by a large black man who sits his fat ass in the stool and has no sense of humor. But that is not…

State Street Station

Rockford, Illinois

Went here and dropped over $200...

Went here and dropped over $200 on a friends party.. Then later on a hanus stripper told me that I could use her phone to call a taxi. She brought me downstairs and then…

The Crazy Horse

San Francisco, California

I am from PDX. So I...

I am from PDX. So I was looking forward to a stripclub experience with a 2-way LD. I was not disappointed. I have been here only once before. The cover charge was $25. But you…

Booby Trap

Pompano Beach, Florida

My first visit since February generated...

My first visit since February generated mixed results, as you can see from my rating scorecard. The value rating is "10" because I got a two-girl table dance (actually in the front corner at the end…

Mons Venus

Tampa, Florida

Writing a Mons Venus review for...

Writing a Mons Venus review for TUSCL is like giving a Super Bowl analysis the week after the game. It's tough to add anything that hasn't been said many times before. By now anyone who…

Industrial Strip

Hammond, Indiana

Have not reviewed in quite a...

Have not reviewed in quite a while, but the life at the IS is certainly thriving. Many, many new girls who are very worthy, plus, fortunately, some of the duds have either left or been dismissed. The exception…

Pure Platinum

San Diego, California

San Diego is not the best...

San Diego is not the best town for clubs especially if you have been elsewhere. However, it is a very nice place, no cover during the day and less pressure than most Pure Platinums.…

Cloakroom

Washington, D.C., District of Columbia

I went to this dive after...

I went to this dive after work one evening. It was a good place to chill out. No cover, and no dances. Girls show their goods on stage, and if you like…

JJ'S PUB

Campbell River, British Columbia

Went here on a slow night....

Went here on a slow night. i think its a hit or miss type of club. the danxers didnt seem ro be engaged in what thet were doing at all..all in all i will try…

Uptown Cabaret

Charlotte, North Carolina

Absolutely the best club in Charlotte…...

Absolutely the best club in Charlotte… It gets really busy during the football games. Maybe due to the bad economy or something the moment I entered this beautiful girl started a massage in my back…

The Landing Strip

Tulsa, Oklahoma

Not a bad club. Went...

Not a bad club. Went on a Thursday night and it had a real neighborhood bar feel to it. The dancers weren't bad looking and I just wanted to smoke a cigar and…

Chelsea's

Athens, Georgia

This was my first time back...

This was my first time back to Chelseas in almost 2 years. None of the girls were the same as I remember but that was to be expected. There were a couple girls…

The Crazy Horse

San Francisco, California

Went on a saturday afternoon. Not...

Went on a saturday afternoon. Not many dancers on stage, but I like it this way as the mileage tends to be way more than if it was crowded. Took a dancer by the name…

Front Room

BJ: stripper or wino?

You go to a strip club hoping for at least a BJ. You know that it will cost a minimum of $20. Most likely $50-100. Just for the sake of argument.Why not just pick up a wino on the curb,…

Front Room

What does DOM mean?

I hate to look stupid but its not in the glossary. I read a review where the reviewer mentioned he ask a dancer for DOM and she refrused and walked away so it must be some kind of extra.

Pony Too

Madison, Alabama

I took another trip to Jimmy's...

I took another trip to Jimmy's on a Friday. I am always impressed by the beauty of some of the women. They had the three stages in action, and each dancer did one dance on…

Imperial Showgirls

Anaheim, California

Wanted to see how business was...

Wanted to see how business was on a Tuesday. This place was bought (with lots of BORROWED money) by a publically traded company that owns many clubs around the country. The stock (VCGH) has been…

Scarlett's Cabaret

Washington Park, Illinois

Talk about Field of Dreams! ...

Talk about Field of Dreams! This place is in the middle of a corn field, yet it is really one of best clubs I have been to. No joke, corn on three sides! Now, from…

Mons Venus

Tampa, Florida

This is one of the best...

This is one of the best clubs I've ever been to that lives up to that image of what strip clubs are supposed to be. Lots of gorgeous natural women from different backgrounds. My associates…

Larry's Villa

Las Vegas, Nevada

Scary neighborhood with a lot of...

Scary neighborhood with a lot of construction going on. Good parking RIGHT by the door should have been a clue to how dead/bad it would be. One very ugly girl on stage with many big…

OG Gentlemen's Club

Las Vegas, Nevada

This place has changed huge in...

This place has changed huge in the last couple of years. It used to have at least a bit of traffic in the daytime and that was when the most mileage was available.…

Playhouse Lounge

Burlington, New Jersey

Still far and away one of...

Still far and away one of the best clubs in the state. Good variety of dancers-- something for everyone. Most are pretty friendly and not nearly as aggressive as you'll find in a lot of…

Peek a Boo

Portland, Oregon

I stopped by just before closing,...

I stopped by just before closing, just one 20year old Japanese girl was working. She was pushing hard for a show but I got a dance from her 15 for the room and 35…

The Club

Tyngsborough, Massachusetts

The club seemed to one rectangular...

The club seemed to one rectangular room. The club was rather dark (as are most strip clubs that I have visited), but clean. Small tables were placed around the club floor. Near the front,…

Keepers Gentlemen's Club

Milford, Connecticut

Easy to find once we arrived...

Easy to find once we arrived got charged 5 dollar cover. The stage setup is very unique and very hot bartenders. Drink prices are reasonable and the girls didn't hound me for private…

Starz

Gardena, California

This is one of the best...

This is one of the best club to get lap dances at, most of the girl will realy give you your money worth. Best time to go is at night, even though you get better…

Ken's Gold Club

Nashville, Tennessee

Stopped by for the hell of...

Stopped by for the hell of it on a Tuesday afternoon and was pleasantly surprised by a dancer named Faith. Got a few dances from her before leaving satisfied. This is a decent…

On The Border

Franklin, Wisconsin

I was in Chicago on business...

I was in Chicago on business and had to go up to Milwaukee so I thought I would stop in and give this place a try. Easy enough to get to from the highway…

The Library Las Vegas

Las Vegas, Nevada

One of the dancers told me...

One of the dancers told me last friday quite a few cheetah dancers got busted and were handed given ticket by the undercover cops. I believe she believed there were like eight of them. Although…

Titillations

Bloomfield, New Jersey

I have to go along with...

I have to go along with Jersey Dan's review. It's good that there is a club that finally realizes that, although hags also have to make money, it is time for them to depart. Girls are…

Starz

Gardena, California

Visited the club this past weekend,...

Visited the club this past weekend, was just trying to get my feet wet, since I am new to Cali. Not too bad though a lot of above average to good looking women there,…

Maximus Club

Austin, Texas

The best thing about the Landing...

The best thing about the Landing Strip is the lapdance happy hour. 10$ till 5 or 6 (not 100% sure). The club is nice very open not a lot of provacy but the girls are…

Déjà Vu Minneapolis

Minneapolis, Minnesota

Went there a Wednesday evening and...

Went there a Wednesday evening and stayed for a couple of hours. Totally worth it! The girls are very attractive, half are 7-9 and half slightly less. Drinks are sort of expensive…

Lulu's

Cleveland, Ohio

I have spent more time in...

I have spent more time in this bar than I care to remember. It is my favorite bar and fits me like a well worn glove. It is not a high class bar…

Men's Club of Charlotte

Charlotte, North Carolina

As usual, the Men's Club charges...

As usual, the Men's Club charges $10 admission. Beers are $7.50. Table dances are $20. The club is very well lit and the dancers are almost all extremely attractive. The problem with the…

Platinum Plus

West Columbia, South Carolina

Went here on a monday night,...

Went here on a monday night, and of all the strip clubs I've been to, this is the best. Right as I walked through the door, I was greeted and when I sat down…

Mynx Cabaret Hartford

Hartford, Connecticut

The low rating may in be...

The low rating may in be in part due to the strict laws in CT, but they were several things I did not like about this club. The main thing is that it seems that…

Spearmint Rhino Las Vegas

Las Vegas, Nevada

I can't believe the complaints and...

I can't believe the complaints and whining I read on this board about this club. I go in on a Thursday night at about 9:30 and right away, on my way to a seat, I…

Casa Diablo Original Blood

Portland, Oregon

First time visit and think that...

First time visit and think that this has great potential. It is just out of Portland but just takes 5-10 from downtown. Traveling north it is on the west side of the street and little…

Vixens Gentlemen's Club

Martinsburg, West Virginia

Still my favorite place to visit...

Still my favorite place to visit in the DC area. Yes you can head to Baltimore for the strip but for my time and money I will make the drive out west. Truly…

Brass Rail Tavern

Toronto, Ontario

Came back, and this time much...

Came back, and this time much busier. There were several people sitting at chairs at the long dance rail, but not tipping the dancer on stage. Lots of dancers sitting with customers at…

Mario's Showplace

Webster, Massachusetts

Had not been the club in...

Had not been the club in a couple years. I was intrigued because of several favorable reviews on this site. Arrived around 4pm on a Thursday afternoon with a friend. Sat on the…

Upper Brass

Toronto, Ontario

I was disappointed with this club....

I was disappointed with this club. I was expecting a much higher caliber of women for the $20 cover and $7.50 bottles of Canadian, but most of the ladies appeared to be in their…

Front Room

Anybody ever have any luck on Craigslist?

Do any of you guys cruise the CL postings? Not specifically for paid sex, but maybe even for a date or eventually a casual encounter? I have a friend who posts on CL and…

Front Room

When do you read/post on here?

Morning, noon or night? Do you have to wait until your SO is out of sight? On my work days it is always after 7PM. On my off days it can be anytime. Nobody looking over my shoulder.

Front Room

Ugliest dancer before make up.

Sparkle. I have seen her in the parking lot in broad day light. Petite. Nice body. But a face that only a mother gorilla could love. I think that her BF might be a gorilla. He has been 86'd from…

Starz

Gardena, California

Stopped in about 3 in the...

Stopped in about 3 in the afternoon. By mistake I went in the "back door" which is along the street. I bypassed the front which kept me from finding out more about the club. I…

Hawaii Theatre

City of Industry, California

Went by on a Sunday afternoon....

Went by on a Sunday afternoon. Good selection of girls. Usually did 2-3 songs on stage, with at least the last one being nude. All of them would give you a good view, with some…

Vegas Cabaret

Tamarac, Florida

I have been to this club...

I have been to this club during the day and at night. There were few girls working during the day, but they did give great dances. I also visited this club on a…

Mac's Two Lounge

Billerica, Massachusetts

Great place. Fairly clean, not too...

Great place. Fairly clean, not too seedy. $10 cover charge, $5 SODAS (this is an 18+ club). Lots of punks, but they're not really threatening. $20 lap dances in a corner couch, not very private.…

Ecstasy Theatre

Santa Ana, California

Too expensive for 50$ VIP dance....

Too expensive for 50$ VIP dance. Plus cover charge and two drinks makes no sense to go there. I do get more private dance in other clubs for the amount of money spent here. Girls…

Night Trips Tulsa

Tulsa, Oklahoma

Went by on a Thurs night,...

Went by on a Thurs night, cover was $5 dollars, parking as was previously noted free. Pretty standard stock on the drink selection. Layout is very open which is good for tipping not so good…

Dream Palace

Tempe, Arizona

Not sure what the deal is...

Not sure what the deal is with this place. The parking lot had a few cars in it, but I was the only one in the club when I came in. The waitress…

Rick's Cabaret

New Orleans, Louisiana

Before I begin my review of...

Before I begin my review of Rick's, in all fairness the strip club business has not been the same since Hurricane Katrina. There are less, good-looking dancers for one thing and the prices have…

C J's Revenge

Myrtle, Minnesota

Great little club. It was busier...

Great little club. It was busier than I expected for its size. Girls were really nice, and hot! Had a dance with a cute blond named Carmen, I think. Dances are fun, more hands on…

Sinners

Minneapolis, Minnesota

Wow! Not your average strip-club. Got...

Wow! Not your average strip-club. Got a dance from a few different girls; Lilly, some other girl, and Jade. Jade is Way Hot! It was cool, because all the dancers seem to have more personality…

Long Branch Saloon

Tallulah, Louisiana

This is a very friendly club....

This is a very friendly club. The girls are not the most beautiful ever but they work hard and seem to enjoy it. The staff is also friendly. Not a fancy place but lots of…

The Lamp Liter

Ottawa, Illinois

Place is small but I like...

Place is small but I like that better..Dancers all average..but very friendly..I would go on a weekend..during the week is kinda slow..good drink prices..

Red Garter Saloon

Key West, Florida

I visited the club during October...

I visited the club during October during Fantasy Fest and had a good time. The club is next to Rick's on Duval Street right in the middle of the Key West bar scene.…

Platinum Plus

Greenville, South Carolina

Very nice club. Good selection of...

Very nice club. Good selection of girls; shape, size, age and ethnicity to meet every desire. YMMV, but all allowed hands on. Couch dances were mostly 2 for $40. Did not see any table dances.…

The Diamond Club

Old Forge, Pennsylvania

I stopped in this club for...

I stopped in this club for the first time on a Thursday night. This is a nice looking, big club, but I found the action in side pretty disappointing. Most of the girls…

Pleasure Dome

White Haven, Pennsylvania

Made my first trip here after...

Made my first trip here after a disappointing visit to the Diamond Club. I didn't have high hopes, given the remote location, but was pleasantly surprised by the look of the club and the…

Underground Exotic Dance Club

Ranson, West Virginia

Visited Underground on a Wednesday afternoon....

Visited Underground on a Wednesday afternoon. There wer 6-8 girls working. Most of them were firly attractive, mostly 5-7 range. I found this to be a very laid back kind of place,…

Market Street Cinema

San Francisco, California

The facility has been updated. They...

The facility has been updated. They charge a flat $25 to enter. Unlike before you have access to the whole club. The furishings are nice now. However, when I was there no dancers were on…

The Crazy Horse

San Francisco, California

I apologize but the review I...

I apologize but the review I wrote a few weeks ago was meant for the Market Street Cinema. I was confused when I wrote the review. The Crazy Horse is much better. One stage. The…

Pink Pony

Atlanta, Georgia

Visited again last thursday and alot...

Visited again last thursday and alot of new girls that I have never seen before. The one that caught my Eye was "IVY" what a body she has. Brunette, Nice boobs and a great ass.…

Blue Flame Lounge

Atlanta, Georgia

this place is not like it...

this place is not like it use to be. still have some beautiful girls working there but it has become more for the local guys. I got there about 6 pm and they had about…

PT's Mens Club

Dallas, Texas

Stopped by for a short visit....

Stopped by for a short visit. Place was pretty quiet, but I found an asian girl, dark complexion, hot body but not real young. Unfortunately, she had to keep me waiting while her prior customer attempted…

Fantasia

Huntsville, Alabama

I buzzed through town a little...

I buzzed through town a little early one afternoon and stopped by my favorite club. Walking in I noticed nothing had changed from previous visits. It has been a while since I had perused…

Heartbreakers

Columbia, South Carolina

Made my monthly visit to PP......

Made my monthly visit to PP... although the time of day was a little later than normal. I arrived about five o'clock (I'm usually a day guy) and a lot of girls were changing shifts.…

Devil's Point

Portland, Oregon

This is a small neighborhood joint...

This is a small neighborhood joint that caters to the hipster crowd. Girls tend towards hot goth w/ lots of tats and piercings. Wasn't crowded the night I went late Thursday. There is one stage…

Showcase Theater

Beltsville, Maryland

The place is a dump and...

The place is a dump and getting nastier. The owners put NO money back into it. The girls are not as good as the past. With all that said, I was sitting there thinking I…

Front Room

If a dancer has a lot of tatoos, is she more likely to give extras or be a slut?

I don't mind a few tatoos but I don't care for a lot. I used to not get dances from those girls until I found out some of them give a lot of extras and are just easier to…

Treasures

Las Vegas, Nevada

I have always been a...

I have always been a fan of tTreasures and was saddened when it closed back in 2004 and was happy that they got to reopen it later that year. I have almost always…

Christies Cabaret

Tempe, Arizona

This is a classy club. ...

This is a classy club. IT is the equal of any I have seen as far as amenities and ambience. There is a $10 cover to enter and, on Tuesday, a sign that…

Deja Vu Showgirls Chicago

Chicago, Illinois

This is one classy joint. $30...

This is one classy joint. $30 on the door gets you in, and with BYOB is a fine deal. The girls will bring you your liquor anytime, provide mixers etc, ice bucket for your wine.…

Diamonds Show Club BYOB

San Antonio, Texas

Stopped by on a Tues night...

Stopped by on a Tues night for poker. There has been a bit of changeover in girls again but apparently the club was hemorraging from the attempt to change the music that was being…

Plan B

Los Angeles, California

This place is what everyone else...

This place is what everyone else said it is. It's not really a strip club and it's not really a bar. The girls are D level hollywood beautiful, but that's the problem...I don't…

Jet Strip

Inglewood, California

Interesting club. Came here after...

Interesting club. Came here after dropping a colleague off at the airport while I was staying in Santa Monica for a few more days for business. I was here for about an hour. I…

Hawaii Theatre

City of Industry, California

Had a rare occasion to visit...

Had a rare occasion to visit COI today, so naturally I had to form my own opinion of HT. It was quite the hit and run today. There are certainly days when I…

Club Risque Northeast

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

First time here since several years...

First time here since several years ago when it was Dangerous Curves. Immediately noticed it was non-smoking and that everything was shiny and new. Barmaid was cuter than 1/2 the dancers. Was…

Penthouse Club

Las Vegas, Nevada

I had signed up, being a...

I had signed up, being a local to their local's membership R U 702 and since I had to visit the club to get my card I went in. Not a bad deal…

OG Gentlemen's Club

Las Vegas, Nevada

I know lots of girls at...

I know lots of girls at this club which can sometimes actually be a bad thing as they all want your business LOL. But one thing is for sure , I can always…

The Library Las Vegas

Las Vegas, Nevada

I usede to not like this...

I usede to not like this place at all some years ago but since 2003, the club has been remodeled and I have come to really like this place. My…

Girls of Glitter Gulch

Las Vegas, Nevada

Medium sized club with 2 long...

Medium sized club with 2 long catwalk like stages. 2 girls at once on the main stage and 1 maybe 2 on the other stage I could not see too well. You pay 20 to get…

Honey's Private Gentlemen's Club

Lake Station, Indiana

This club went downhil quickly after...

This club went downhil quickly after "C" was dismissed as manager. He really promoted the club and got some truly beautiful girls. "C" continued to make improvements to the building after "E" began the renovation…

Jet Strip

Inglewood, California

I picked the option on this...

I picked the option on this review to say there were 11-25 dancers there. There were 11. I would say that 5 appealed to me, which is more than enough to have a…

Riverside Corral

Portland, Oregon

Visited around midnight on a Friday....

Visited around midnight on a Friday. This is a small little place, next to a boat shop, right near the river. The place seems to have once had a nautical theme-- as there…

Platinum Plus

West Columbia, South Carolina

My first visit to this "landmark"...

My first visit to this "landmark" club. I must admit I spent wayyyy too much money. But I had great time. Typical strip club atmosphere. The music is insane. Too loud. Sit back from the…

Front Room

whats the best SC deal you ever had?

Recently I went to a club and sat for awhile and talked to a very attractive young spinner type. she really impressed me so I took her up on a trip to the VIP.…

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Here's hoping!(for parodyman)

A guy went to parodyman's hometown trying to find him(why I don't really know). He goes to parodyman's favorite bar but is told he's not there and is told as he's leaving "Here's hoping!'. He's puzzled by this…

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My ATF has gained a little weight

I don't mind a little extra baggage, especially around the hips and butt. So, it's odd that my long time ATF was very slender and petite. But over the past few months, she has gone from slim, to…

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Tired stripper looks

Zorro's comments on the post by David120 about dancers that do not look like strippers made me think about a new topic. What stripper outits/looks are you tired of? I'll start out with a few: 1) School girl look 2) Biker…

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Dancers that do not look like strippers

One of the things I love about my hobby is the variety of women I get to see at strip clubs. At most clubs, there is something for everyone. All hair colors, body shapes, etc. But it…

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Ultimate MILF

Sound off with your opinions on who is the Ultimate MILF. I suggest Brooke Burke. She has four kids, and still has a phenomenal body. Yes, she's had some work, but it's been top-quality. And her face is…

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Which average looking celebrity would you like to bone?

I have been on a lot of boards on other sites and this question will come up and one name keeps coming up recently: Rachel Ray. She has a fat, round ass and I would love to do her doggiestyle.…

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Now that VA is a blue state...

Can we get some real strip clubs?

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What if your favorite stripper is a one way lesbian?

You just found out the dancer you have spent a lot of cash on and thought you were about to get in her pants, hates dick?

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Favorite or best condoms

Ultra thin is still not thin enough for me. Porn actors are suppossed to use some kind of uber-thin condom.Anyone know what it really is?