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10 years ago
I figured it was the same guy. I (and probably every female and guy posing as a female on this site) get a ton of "this is my car. Sex?" pictures that are straight off of ebay motors. There's not much difference in Photoshop quality between the jokes and the serious ones.
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10 years ago
You guys do know that www.tineye.com is a thing, right? Actually, with the number of guys who are scammed with fake pictures in Backpage ads, maybe you don't. You can just go to the picture, copy the image location or save it to your desktop, then paste or upload it to tineye.com and it will tell you everywhere on the internet the picture has been used, even if people Photoshop it. Photographers use it to hunt down copyright infringement but it can also be used to find that this fellow's "family estate" picture is from Realtor.com and his "palatial estate" picture has been used on a ton of other web sites. I definitely believe that he could both get a chubby girl to stand in front of a wall AND locate a McDonald's to stand in front of. I am impressed.
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10 years ago
I've always thought that it was silly to be insulted by "sex for money" offers. Some dancers don't do extras, some do. Some times the decision is based on the situation. I don't hold any of those things against anybody in this business.
To "Hard": I've been trying to think of a good comparison and I think I have one: customers demanding "extras" would be analogous to your boss walking up to you and saying "You better work over time tonight or you're fired," as opposed to "I would appreciate it if you worked over time tonight." You still have to work over time, if you want to keep your job there, but one of those approaches will make you look for a new place to work.
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10 years ago
Side note: I never mind when guys ask me for extras. I definitely take it as a compliment!
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10 years ago
It might seem silly to all of you, but every girl likes to feel as if she has a choice in who she hooks up with. I think a lot of dancers have done/will do extras, but they don't consider it prostitution if they are picky about who they give those extras to (even if "picky" just means holding out for polite guys who don't smell horrible). You can't imagine how miserable it is to feel as if you have to have sex with every repulsive, rude guy you talk to. It would be incredibly depressing. I steer clear of those clubs too and, as a result, love dancing.
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11 years ago
I always say that, rather than quoting "expected tips." I've very rarely regretted it but, then again, I have the luxury of turning men down for rooms if they are unpleasant or smell bad. I usually make more that I would have quoted and I always write down tips so that I can double check before the next time I do a room with a guy... and there's always a next time ;)
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11 years ago
As a long time stripper, I can assure you that you will only be able to "pick up" a stripper for a three some if you are willing to pay her (no judgement intended if you are). Strippers get dozens of offers a week and there is absolutely no way to distinguish yourself from the rest of the hot, young, fun, friendly couples that they've already turned down. As I'm sure you know, women can have all of the sex they want at any time, so your willingness to have sex with her is not a selling point at all. My advice? Try to find another couple to explore with. Yes, another man having sex with your wife is an uncomfortable idea for some, but it will give you a lot more options and can cut down on potential jealousy issues.
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11 years ago
I may be able to offer some clarification to "SS." I think there are 2 main reasons that dancers saddle customers with their sob stories"
- Customers are trying to get everything they can from us for as little money as possible. They don't care if it will cause us physical or mental pain or if it will get us fired. It's hard not to get frustrated, as a human being. I don't condone it, as it hurts the industry and offends my personal work ethic. But why would it surprise you that some strippers get calloused and will try to get the most money they can from you with the littlest effort? Enough guys try to bully me into $10 BJs in a night to turn most sane people crazy. I've been bitten, punched, slapped, screamed at, reported to management with BS charges and insulted on review sites. It's tempting to bully back and I don't blame young, sensitive girls for lashing out. You can't expect an 18 year old to act like a 40 year old, logic and maturity wise. Sometimes you are going to get jerks who have no idea what money is really worth. That's the trade off for looking at 20 year old boobs. Just ignore sob stories, move along to a more professional dancer and don't let it get you down.
- This job can be confusing. Men tend to talk and touch dancers as if they are friends and some times it lulls you into a false sense of emotional intimacy. If a dance is going through something huge, it's hard not to tell someone who really seems to care. We all slip once in a while. A few weeks ago I was talking to a regular at the start of the night and he asked me how I was doing. I told him I was great. He leaned forward, looked into my eyes and said "How are you really doing?" For a split second, I thought he meant that he could tell I had a bad day. We've gotten to know each other a little and it felt good to have some one notice, so I said "Work was just really shitty and hectic today." And he immediately hardened and sat back and looked away and said "Yeah, we're all under a lot of stress." Obviously, the correct answer had been "horny," and I was able to salvage the conversation by telling him how glad I was to be at the club, as it's my favorite way to unwind (which is true). Its hard, sometimes, even after I've been doing it for years, to remember that the answer is always "horny."
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11 years ago
I've been a stripper for a while and I think anyone in the industry would agree that strippers make a lot less than they did a decade ago. The industry has changed dramatically. With the internet, men can see naked women any time they want and can usually find prostitutes with minimal risk (through vouch/referral based sites). There is still a market for strip clubs, but not as big a market. This is coupled with clubs squeezing every penny they can out of dancers with higher fees and tip outs and bigger cuts. Lap dances in my area have been almost universally $20, of which we get $10. Obviously, I still love it and find it worth the time, but no one is going to get rich stripping. It's definitely still a fun and lucrative part time job for a young woman though.
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11 years ago
They may be girls who approach everyone. Different dancers have different sales tactics and some make a point to talk to every customer. I try to steer clear of customers who have specific favorites, unless they approach me first. It just seems more polite.
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11 years ago
Hello Yegi!
I'm a stripper/usual lurker as well. I prefer this site to stripper web, though it is nice to have a place to vent once in a while. No one will believe you're a stripper, even if you do post real pictures, provide them with your club/name/shifts/etc. I just roll with it and enjoy the discussions. I wish more ladies posted on this site!
~Michelle
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11 years ago
I'm sure some dancers give out their real numbers, if they don't mind having to change numbers every few weeks, but that would get old for me. Guys can be nuts and if you block them, they will give your number out to every jerk they can find, write it on bathroom stalls, post it on Backpage and Craigslist, etc. I definitely have a trac phone for work purposes, as do most of the dancers I know. It might be a regional thing (I'm in PA). I'm pretty sure, though, that most of the guys who get that number think they have my real number. That seems silly to me. Every guy who does a few dances or a room pretty much demands it (then shows it to all of their friends). That's at least 20 new guys a week who text or call a few times a week asking for naked pictures, OTC, dates, sexting, free BJs, etc. Sometimes I need to shut my work phone off to breathe for a second.
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11 years ago
Pineapple works!
Tony George the Indy racing guy?
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11 years ago
Skin, lube or me (depending on where it's been ;)
Semen tastes exactly like baking soda mixed with water, in case anyone was curious.
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11 years ago
I can think of a few explainations. I've tended bar at a few busy strip club and received a ton of calls from prospective dancers. Some asked basics (times, house fees), but some asked things like: "Is there someone there to teach me how to dance?" "How fast can I make $1000?" "You don't search bags, do you?" or "How much will I make?" These were all red flags, indicating I was talking with an inexperienced dancer or junkie, both of whom keep you on the phone forever then show up strung out, if at all. Other possibilities:
- Did she call at 11 pm on a Friday, talk to a busy bouncer or bartender, etc? - there's a huge amount of information prices, rules, shifts, etc. that have to be weighed at every club and it's not as simple as the dry numbers. A dancer who thinks that you can weigh the details against each other is an unexperienced dancer. A club might be the most expensive with house fees, but no staff expect tips, they have great security and they have much more business than anyone else. Another club might be cheap and flexible, but have no cameras or rules so you have to be willing to do extras to make any money. At some clubs, customers are used to tipping a lot, at some clubs no one tips for rooms or dances. You shouldn't need to ask more than 2 or 3 questions. - Schedules can usually be flexible... for the right dancer, so clubs don't want to tell a pleasant, smart, hot hard working dancer that they have strict scheduling rules. They also don't want to tell a dancer that schedules are flexible, then realize she is a better *ahem* fit for weekdays or day shifts. I can only work two evenings a week, but I don't tell clubs until I'm there and they see that I'll be an asset to the company anyway.
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11 years ago
Most clubs in my area are very strict about dancers leaving with customers. It's one of the few true firing offenses. Dancers still meet men out of clubs, but they have to be very subtle about it. Some dancers car pool, some get rides from managers, the DJ or bouncers, some of us drive ourselves, some use taxis or jitney services. Most likely, she was politely turning you down. Sidenote: most of my friends are strippers. You can be professionally competitive without taking it personally.
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11 years ago
That's a pretty valid question. I've been asked much "weirder" ones and I've never freaked out. She probably just had them removed. I know a lot of dancers who've had trouble with them and had to have them repaired, repaced or removed. Even in the best care scenario they should be replaced after 10 years or so.
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11 years ago
Most of us have Trac phones for work puposes. They are cheap and give us a way to connect with customers to let them know when we're working and to make them feel special. It's usually very easy to get numbers, just say "I'd love to see you again, why don't we exchange numbers so you can call or text when you're working." I've neve met a clean (non drug using) dancer who would give a customer her regular number. Not being a jerk, just most guys go a little nuts with the calls and texts and I've had a few try to blackmail me (saying they'll give out my number if I don't hang out with them).
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11 years ago
How about from our side? "It's OK, I know the owner," "If you do it now, I'll pay you later," "All the other dancers are doing it." Ha ha!
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11 years ago
Please don't film us. Look up how many women have been fired for adult industry pasts. If a movie of me stripping ever makes it online, I'll be fired from my real job and probably never get another. I'm sure I'm not the only dancer with a conservative family and friends who don't know about my double life. If you want pretty, young, clean, sane girls to get naked in public for your enjoyment please help to keep us safe. There is so much porn online and a TON of "stripper" themed videos, that the actresses are paid very well to do. Naked pictures of me would cost millions of dollars, not because I'm unbelieveably hot, but because they would interfere with every other aspect of my life.
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11 years ago
I'm sure drug use varies with the club. Many clubs around Pittsburgh have taken steps to get rid of druggies (searches, strict arrival times, fines for call offs, etc). It makes it much easier to work when you know your stuff won't be stolen by crack heads. I know some dancers who take pain pills to work or Molly occassionally, but not all of us do. I can't speak for everyone, but I don't do any drugs or smoke cigarettes. I drink occassionally, but rarely at work.
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11 years ago
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motorheadFat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life
I honestly care about many of my customers and consider many of them to be friends. I don't care if they only see me as a piece of meat, I can't help but care about someone if I get to know them and share (some sort) of physical intimacy with them. I used to feel bad about it, especially when they would "dump" me for another dancer, but I've decided that I love my flaw. I'm glad that people still matter to me and that I haven't started to see men as groping apes with wallets. I hope I never loose that, even if it's a little painful sometimes.
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11 years ago
I've worked with women of all sizes and you will be the perfect size for some customers. Some men prefer curvier women (and spend their time telling you how disgusting the thinner girls are), but a majority want thin 18-25 year old girls with very round bums and 36Cs (or larger) and they will be viciously cruel. I know, they "can't help what they like," but I honestly think that everyone can be polite, even if a dancer isn't their type.
Side note: Men are pretty critical in real life too. Yes, they will settle for free, available sex with an older and/or heavier woman, but then they will come to strip clubs or watch porn and wish that they were having sex with those women instead. A large part of my job is listening to overweight older men talk about how their wives looked like me when they got married, but "let themselves go" after they had kids or how women should take care of themselves and wear makeup every day for men or (my favorite) "I just can't get it up for a woman over 30... want to go out?" As if I never plan to age. It's disheartening to know that, no matter how nice I am to a man or how much I love him, some day he will be in a strip club paying a 20 year old to listen to how repulsive I am. Believe me, I wish it wasn't true.
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11 years ago
Men are hyper-critical of women, don't take it personally! When I first started dancing, I was naturally thin and guys said things like "eat a hamburger!" "Are you on heroin?" and (my favorite) "buy some tits." Now that I'm curvier I get "aren't you a little old to be doing this?" "Do some sit ups" or (in a recent review on this site) "she had a little gut (like she'd just given birth)." For the record, I'm 27, 5'6", I weigh around 130 pounds and I don't have a gut. Men just have comically high physical standards for women. Ignore it. Have fun, make your money and keep in mind that they are saying equally mean things to or about every other dancer there.
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11 years ago
@Che: What are some things you normally ask? Just curious.
Those questions are all spot on. Every guy I meet asks (in this order, very little differences):
What's your name?
What's your real name?
How old are you?
What does your boyfriend or husband think of this job (kid of 2 questions in 1)?
Usually in the course of the conversation I will also get some thing obnoxious like: How many kids? Do any drugs? Don't you want a real job? When are we going out? Etc.